[QUOTE=TrafficMan;50913862][t]http://i.imgur.com/KPHrzuO.png[/t]
[editline]19th August 2016[/editline]
I really want a more modern case, mine has shit cable routes and doesn't even have USB 3.0[/QUOTE]
So do I, mine no longer has front USB connectors because they fell off ages ago, the case has collected a huge amount of dust particles outside, the tabs that stop the front panel connecting with the front of the fan have partially fallen off meaning I have to be really precise putting it back or it will make a horrible noise.
Unfortunately it seems the case I'm keeping an eye on (Corsair Obsidian 750D) may have build quality issues, and I'm an idiot because I still want to get it because it looks like an IBM PS/2 Model 80.
uh oh, windows has somehow auto-updated despite me being set to "check but let me choose" for ever.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cWYuzw2.png[/IMG]
I've not even updated in over a year how the fuck did this happen.
Is there anyway to cancel at this stage, i've already tried disabling the service and deleting the download files.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;50917329]On the verge of ordering an LTO-4 tape drive, is there anything I should be concerned about? Also, is it true that, SSDs lose data if they aren't powered on within a certain time, have you guys experienced that at all?[/QUOTE]
It's supposedly a few years. I'm personally not concerned with it. But I've used all SSD's I've bought.
[QUOTE=alien_guy;50918576]uh oh, windows has somehow auto-updated despite me being set to "check but let me choose" for ever.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cWYuzw2.png[/IMG]
I've not even updated in over a year how the fuck did this happen.
Is there anyway to cancel at this stage, i've already tried disabling the service and deleting the download files.[/QUOTE]
Nope its already gone through the preinstallation stage, the only way back is forward.
Anyone played with BTRFS? I've been looking into it instead of Drivepool.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50918937]Anyone played with BTRFS? I've been looking into it instead of Drivepool.[/QUOTE]
Forget about using its [I]RAID 5/6 like[/I] capabilities, that part of the code is currently unmaintained garbage
[url]https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-RAID-56-Is-Bad[/url]
&
[URL]https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56[/URL].
If you're looking into pooling multiple disks as one storage unit with parity, then there's ZFS.
ZFS is out of the question for my use case. I can't afford to buy a bunch of disks upfront to set it up. And only being able to expand it by replacing each disk one by one. I have no need for striping and no desire for it.
As for BTRFS, my interest was in it's RAID1 functions. My assumption was it did RAID1 level on chunks on different disks. So it would make sure each piece was on a different disk. Similar to Windows Storage Spaces.
Edit: But I had seen that talk of the RAID5-6 issues on DataHoarder and it's a shame. I was interested in dual parity, but in the end I don't mind having less efficient storage if it also means I can keep more drives off. I don't need 1GB/s speeds, I need just enough to store data and occasionally pull from the server.
Today I'm going to install a clean linux vm and mess with btrfs through that.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;50918205]So do I, mine no longer has front USB connectors because they fell off ages ago, the case has collected a huge amount of dust particles outside, the tabs that stop the front panel connecting with the front of the fan have partially fallen off meaning I have to be really precise putting it back or it will make a horrible noise.
Unfortunately it seems the case I'm keeping an eye on (Corsair Obsidian 750D) may have build quality issues, and I'm an idiot because I still want to get it because it looks like an IBM PS/2 Model 80.[/QUOTE]
The 750D is perfectly fine. Every case outside the $500+ market has build quality issues.
linux drive structure is so fucking confusing to me.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919372]linux drive structure is so fucking confusing to me.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/658/linux-how-can-i-view-all-uuids-for-all-available-disks-on-my-system"]Stick to UUID's[/URL] ( /dev/disk/by-uuid ) if possible, /dev/sdX should be banned for anything but embedded applications running a very minimalistic OS.
I've been raised on windows for my entire life, so all that makes sense to me.
I'm starting a VM and was going to make a VHD and put one on each actual physical disk to test actual striped and raid performance as well as resilvering virtually.
I'm using ubuntu, so I got /dev/sda as a device. So I want to make a new partition table... I think.Then it wants the mount point, it's the mount point and stuff which clashes with my very understanding compooters I've had since a kid. Like... where is /usr or /boot or /tmp
So apparently at our campus surplus store $25 gets you a E8400 machine with 8gb of ram.
Found my new homeserver.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919454]I've been raised on windows for my entire life, so all that makes sense to me.
I'm starting a VM and was going to make a VHD and put one on each actual physical disk to test actual striped and raid performance as well as resilvering virtually.
I'm using ubuntu, so I got /dev/sda as a device. So I want to make a new partition table... I think.Then it wants the mount point, it's the mount point and stuff which clashes with my very understanding compooters I've had since a kid. Like... where is /usr or /boot or /tmp[/QUOTE]
/ is the root of the filesystem.
So /usr and /tmp is a folder in /
/ is basically the equivalent of C:\ on a simple Linux system.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50918610]It's supposedly a few years. I'm personally not concerned with it. But I've used all SSD's I've bought.[/QUOTE]Ah, well a few years means I can't use it for long term storage, I'd have to go with LTO then.
[QUOTE=Van-man;50919515]/ is the root of the filesystem.
So /usr and /tmp is a folder in /
/ is basically the equivalent of C:\ on a simple Linux system.[/QUOTE]
If / is the root of the filesystem, if I have multiple drives... where do those go. I mount them to "folders"?
Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919589]If / is the root of the filesystem, if I have multiple drives... where do those go. I mount them to "folders"?
Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?[/QUOTE]
You can do that. You could also take a look at LVM, it can be useful for these kinds of complicated setups.
I need help because I apparently can't Windows anymore. I'm trying to share my internet connection from my Windows desktop to my Linux desktop. My Windows desktop has an ASUS PCE-56 in it and fine connectivity normally. When I share the connection via internet to my Linux box however the wireless stays connected but has no actual connectivity. Unfortunately the only spare wireless adapter I have to put in the Linux machine is an older single band N 1 stream broadcom chip so I'd rather not.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919589]If / is the root of the filesystem, if I have multiple drives... where do those go. I mount them to "folders"?[/quote]
Yes, precisely.
[quote]Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?[/QUOTE]
Usually, drives and partitions that aren't delegated to system-specific functions like /home and /usr get put in /mnt somewhere
for instance, my 2TB drive is mounted on E:\ on Windows, but is mounted as "/mnt/legends" in Linux ("Legends" being the drive label)
the kernel of course doesn't give a shit and will mount anything anywhere if you ask nicely, but those are the conventions.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919589]If / is the root of the filesystem, if I have multiple drives... where do those go. I mount them to "folders"?
Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?[/QUOTE]
Basically Yes, it's confusing at first, but something similar is also possible in windows (mapping a folder to a drive), it's just hidden away from sight for mere mortal users.
For example, back when I had a setup with a pair of disks in RAID-0 and another pair in RAID-1, Windows would be installed on the RAID-0 array, while the C:\users\[I]myusername[/I]\ folder would be mapped to the RAID-1 array.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919589]If / is the root of the filesystem, if I have multiple drives... where do those go. I mount them to "folders"?
Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?[/QUOTE]
Linux doesn't really have a strictly physical drive divided filesystem like windows does, everything is nested
Each physical drive (partition, technically) gets a presence in /dev (sd<drive letter><partition number>)
These partitions are then mounted to various points within the filesystem, and then files are physically stored on whatever the last mount points is is the file structure
For example, /dev/sda1 is actually just mounted to / (and paradoxically /dev is a completely different mounted partition but I try not to think about nested loops), so everything by default gets physically stored on that drive
But, if you mount /dev/sdb (your second drive) to /usr/VideoFiles, all files that have a file path that starts with /usr/VideoFiles/* will be physically stored on your second drive instead of the default first one
In short, in windows the very first thing in a file path defines the partition (C:, D:, etc), and in linux it's whatever the last listed mount point is
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50918937]Anyone played with BTRFS? I've been looking into it instead of Drivepool.[/QUOTE]
I've been using RAID-1 BTRFS for a while now. Works great, never had any problems with it.
No merge for you!
This is discounting symlinks in windows but that's more of an exception, while in Linux that's the expected behavior
[editline]20th August 2016[/editline]
Merge :angry:
BTW brt I recommend not mounting things under /usr since that doesn't stand for 'user' but rather for 'unix system resources'.
Don't mess with it unless you know what you're doing.
Delete EVERYTHING under /usr
[QUOTE=nutcake;50919966]BTW brt I recommend not mounting things under /usr since that doesn't stand for 'user' but rather for 'unix system resources'.
Don't mess with it unless you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]
Especially since the /mnt folder is meant for various mounts.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50919589]Like / and everything in it is on the installed linux drive but then maybe I install a new disk and "mount it" to like /usr/VideoFiles or something? Rather than it having a letter?[/QUOTE]
Example RAID1 btrfs.
[code]
mkfs.btrfs -d raid1 -m raid1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
mkdir /storage
mount /dev/sdc /storage[/code]
Add drives to RAID1
[code]
btrfs device add /dev/sdd /storage
btrfs device add /dev/sde /storage
btrfs filesystem balance /storage[/code]
Fairly sure that's valid, but cba verifying in a VM right now.
[QUOTE=Van-man;50919974]Especially since the /mnt folder is meant for various mounts.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why /media exists tho. Why not just mount everything under /mnt?
[QUOTE=nutcake;50919998]I wonder why /media exists tho. Why not just mount everything under /mnt?[/QUOTE]
[quote]The motivation for the creation of this directory has been that historically
there have been a number of other different places used to mount removeable
media such as /cdrom, /mnt or /mnt/cdrom. Placing the mount points for all
removeable media directly in the root directory would potentially result in
a large number of extra directories in /. Although the use of subdirectories
in /mnt as a mount point has recently been common, it conflicts with a much
older tradition of using /mnt directly as a temporary mount point.[/quote]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50920012][/QUOTE]
Weird, I though /media were for portable media (USB drives, optical drives and even floppy drives).
[QUOTE=Van-man;50920051]Weird, I though /media were for portable media (USB drives, optical drives and even floppy drives).[/QUOTE]
I imagine it's not exactly standardized and some DEs just mount it wherever the fuck they want
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