Okay, that CPU/mobo combo seems really nice.
The only difference between the G43 and the G45 seems to be the number of onboard USB and that the G45 has the IEEE 1394 thing.
Now what is the IEEE 1394's significance and what am I missing out on if I choose the G43?
PSU: I was told on multiple IRC channels that I should never skimp on the PSU, because apparently that's one of the most important parts. But I'll look into the ones you suggested.
CPU cooling/case: I'll get back to you on those after a little research.
Thanks.
Still open to suggestions, guys! Keep 'em coming!
Yeah, I know you should never skimp out on a PSU, but then again, I don't suggest that you get an overkill one either, because you can spend the money saved on other parts, or just so that you spend less money
[editline]5th April 2011[/editline]
gah my sentence structure is garbage
do you get what I'm trying to say?
Yeah, I understood it :3
Concerns about the GFX cards:
MSI's cards are bigger than the EVGA one, will that cause any problems?
MSI's do not feature the "DisplayPort" technology. If I go with them, what exactly am I missing?
Do MSI's cards support the 3D vision feature? It doesn't specifically say so on the details page.
What are the cooling implications of either choice?
MSI's feature a "mini-HDMI" port rather than a regular one. Will I have to get a different type of cable?
EDIT:
Just found a combo deal with the G43 and the MSI "overclocked" card [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.624498[/url]
I just bought the MSi GTX 570 myself, it comes with a mini-HDMI -> HDMI adaptor, and it fit into a HAF 912 pretty easily without removing the HDD cage so no problems fitting it into a 922
Displayport is just another method of digital interface like DVI or HDMI; chances are, if you're not using one right now you'll probably be fine off without it
Yes, it supports 3D vision.
It also cools fine
[editline]5th April 2011[/editline]
also good find with the combo deal. $50 off is huge
and now you can combo the Hyper 212+ and the 2500K
I'm more concerned about the tight fit on the motherboard than anything:
What ports/connectors will it block? How much space will be in between the two if I SLI?
There's barely any difference between width between the MSI and EVGA cards, and even if you SLi them you'll be fine
although if you do you'll basically block every PCI-E x1 and PCI slot under the x16 slots
Alright. (Who cares about PCI and PCI-E x1 anyway! ^_^)
So people have suggested this PSU : [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171056[/url]
and I found a combo deal with the 2500k on this one: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.624958[/url]
What do you think?
I guess if you're that set on gold efficiency you can go for it
personally, I would go for the XFX, and this combo
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.625350[/url]
I guarantee that the XFX will handle 2 GTX 570s
Not really "set" on gold efficiency, it's just that I've got 3 people on an IRC channel advising against that XFX (and btw the one you linked to is not modular), saying I'm "fucking skimping on the PSU again".
ok, sorry. I just realized that it wasn't modular - should've paid more attention
If you want to go for the Corsair, go for it, but I'm just letting you know that you can buy a cheaper PSU and save some money, and XFX, especially their higher-end PSUs, are far from 'skimping'
(found the [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&cm_re=xfx_750w-_-17-207-003-_-Product]modular one[/url] if you care, it's $130)
Hm...okay going to keep looking into the PSU issue, get more opinions etc.
Now people are telling me that the G43 does not support dual cards. Looks like I didn't pay enough attention, either. This means no $50 saving :[
I don't know who's telling you those things but the G43 does support multi-GPU
You can barely make it out in this picture, but under the first PCI-E x16 slot on the motherboard, it's printed:
"TRUE PCI-E 2.0 SLI & CrossFire X"
[media]http://i.imgur.com/sHgl5.jpg[/media]
Oh sweet, didn't notice that. Any idea if it's x8/x8?
Newegg's details only say 2 PCIe slots, (x16,x8)
x16 x8
pretty good considering most other P67 motherboards only do 16x/4x
XFX's PSUs are great, better than coolermaster and about equal to corsair, silver 80+ is enough and gold costs too much
I'd get the 850W though, gives you more room for overclocking and upgrading, and the further you are from the max load the cooler/quiter the PSU will be and the longer it will last
the P67A-G43 should be fine for SLi, it has 8x/8x PCI-E slots
[editline]6th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Macktastic;29007907]x16 x8
pretty good considering most other P67 motherboards only do 16x/4x[/QUOTE]
it's 16x if using one slot, 8x/8x if using two
most P67 boards do 8x/8x unless they're very low end budget boards with 16x/4x (e.g Asus P8P67-M and P8P67 LE)
So I've got people telling me that MSI's aren't that great, and that they'd rather go for an ASUS or a GIGABYTE
In terms of upgradability, performance, and durability, how good is the G43 compared to, say, this:
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128478[/url]
^Does this one even support SLI or is it just dual cards. (Is there a difference between "SLI-ing" two cards and just going "dual"?)
MSI makes quality parts, and they even come with a 3 year warranty
MSI is fine, they and asus are the only two manufacturers I pay attention to for P67
gigabyte doesn't have UEFI and their boards are usually more expensive for similar features than others, Asrock is good for budgets (lower than P67 goes) and I can't think of any others worth even looking at
if you're going to pay that much for a mobo get the P67A-GD53 or if you'll use the extra features the P67A-GD65 or P8P67 PRO
What exactly qualifies as "fine"?
I'm looking for something that won't need to be replaced in the next 2 years while giving me consistent, above-average, performance.
Getting the G43 with the MSI GTX 570 graphics card will save me $50 (combo), but I'm worried since there are no reviews for the G43 on newegg.
no manufacturer can guarantee 100% that their boards won't have problems
the closest you can get is choosing a high quality manufacturer with good support (e.g MSI asus and gigabyte) so it's [I]less[/I] likely for something to go wrong, and in the event something does you'll have an easier time getting the board fixed or replaced
and ignore customer reviews, they're always written by idiots who have no idea what they're actually looking for (e.g this piece of shit $5 power supply ran my system at idle for 10 seconds, 5 stars!) because anyone who actually knows what they're doing knows customer reviews are bullshit and doesn't bother
look up professional reviews made by people who review many parts and know what they're looking for
Can't find any pro reviews on the G43 either.
It's very attractive pricewise, though:
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.624498[/url]
I mean, look at that price after the mail-in rebate!
it's fairly new, this thread is the first I've seen of it, but without even looking I can tell it's a cut down P67A-G45 just by the name
although that's fairly new and not high end so it's not a priority for review sites and you might not find any for that either
if you want general impressions look for reviews of the P67A-GD55 and GD65, hell the C43 is probably just an even more cut down version of those
The only thing you lose if you don't get a P67A-G45 is Firewire, which I really don't need.
I think I'm going to go for the P67A-G43 mobo + MSI overclocked GTX 570 combo
I bought the G45, pretty similar to the 43
good price, good aesthetics, good features, easy to overclock, 3 year warranty
and especially with that combo it's a no-brainer, really
[editline]ewe[/editline]
ok nevermind good choice
Alright, back on the topic of PSUs:
I've been told that even an 850W won't cut it if I'm going for dual GPUs + overclocking
Any 1000W+ suggestions?
[QUOTE=BrownMasterV;29026746]Alright, back on the topic of PSUs:
I've been told that even an 850W won't cut it if I'm going for dual GPUs + overclocking
Any 1000W+ suggestions?[/QUOTE]
850W is fine
You super-duper sure? How much crap can I put onto the computer before 850W becomes...*not* fine?
I think I'm going to go for a full-tower case, if that helps at all.
850W will be fine for 2 570s
[url]http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-review/13[/url]
[quote]With 2-way SLI we noticed our power consumption for the cards peaked to roughly 410 Watts, that's JUST the two cards, not the entire PC !
...
You need a 750+ Watt power supply unit if you use it in a high-end system (800+ to a KiloWatt is recommended if you plan on any overclocking).[/quote]
Now do the number of fans/case/CPU type influence the PSU requirements? I've been implored vehemently to go for a KiloWatt or higher.
Possibly going for this case:
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160[/url]
Edit:
Macktastic:
You suggested the Hyper 212+ combo earlier, and it looks like it has [i]great[/i] reviews, but yet again people are telling me it will fail on me :[
Any suggestions (my room is usually ~26C)
And where are you getting these people telling you these completely stupid things?
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