Need help finding a good gaming mouse for about 100$
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[QUOTE=27X;26598117]Dead wrong. CPI and update rate have everything to do with how accurate a mouse is, and your link is almost FIVE years old. Tracking is a little different now. Try using one of those 1:1 on a screen larger than 22" and welcome to instant fail.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's almost four years old, and you can always turn up Windows sensitivity. I doubt you'd need it at 1080 or 1200p. The G500 has practically the same sensor as the G5, just a higher DPI.
[editline]10th December 2010[/editline]
And no, DPI has, once again, nothing to do with how accurate a mouse is. Polling rate does, however.
Logitech G9x Laser Mouse
I have a gigabyte GM-M6880.
[url]http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2896#sp[/url]
It's a very durable and simple mouse, holds your hand perfectly.
Just a good all around mouse, looks very good when you look at it too. ]
You don't need a fancy mouse like a razor or mx518, Spend your money on something different.
[QUOTE=27X;26598117]Dead wrong. CPI and update rate have everything to do with how accurate a mouse is, and your link is almost FIVE years old. Tracking is a little different now. Try using one of those 1:1 on a screen larger than 22" and welcome to instant fail.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/02/does-dpi-matter-in-gaming-mice-one-mouse-maker-says-no.ars[/url]
9 month old article with quote from steelseries guy
To be honest, if you're forking out money I'd go for Logitech Mice (G500, MX518, G900), Razer tends to be insanely overpriced, they're also too light, small and unergonomic as a lot of focus is put on a sleek design, as opposed to a design that would actually better suit playing games with, plus all they seem to promote is more DPI, which is pretty much useless above a certain point and is only relative to your monitor resolution.
Although saying that be honest whatever Mouse you do get you'll soon get more comfortable with it the more you play so really in all seriousness a Mouse will not insanely increase your accuracy or anything It's all about finding what sensitivity, and design work with your playstyle. With that said Logitiech tend to be mice that are very easy to get to grips with.
Logitech on appearence seems to have chunky designs but this is only because they are much easy to grip and actually play with, for instance Logitech Mice typically have a place to hold your thumb which really does allow you to keep your aim very steady and precise, as opposed to Razers where I've noted my fingers are literally constantly slipping off the mouse every second, and you have to keep readjusting your grip.
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Fucking love it.
I <3 my DiamondBack 3G. Cheap mouse with a driver hack to push it to 1000hz (1ms). But if you are looking for insane DPI, maybe another mouse will suite you better.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26600246]Actually it's almost four years old, and you can always turn up Windows sensitivity. I doubt you'd need it at 1080 or 1200p. The G500 has practically the same sensor as the G5, just a higher DPI.
[editline]10th December 2010[/editline]
And no, DPI has, once again, nothing to do with how accurate a mouse is. Polling rate does, however.[/QUOTE]
CPI and Polling are integral. And it's pretty obvious if you don't know how you've never actually worked with a large monitor 1:1 before. It's also fixing to be 2011. Abnormal Win sensitivity is pretty much the worst thing you can do in terms of fucking up your point to point accuracy in real time other than enabling mouse smoothing or perhaps covering your eyes with your free hand while aiming. And on a 30"; at max resolution, 1:1 accuracy counts for a great deal. [quote]9 month old article with quote from steelseries guy[/quote] It's also an opinion that SS has reversed in their subsequent mouse products; hmm a conundrum. Try using < 1000 CPI mouse in Photshop or Mudbox on a 2560x1600 monitor with a 10x10 mousing surface and you'll see exactly how much of either of those articles is theorycraft.
[QUOTE=27X;26610639]CPI and Polling are integral. And it's pretty obvious if you don't know how you've never actually worked with a large monitor 1:1 before. It's also fixing to be 2011. Abnormal Win sensitivity is pretty much the worst thing you can do in terms of fucking up your point to point accuracy in real time other than enabling mouse smoothing or perhaps covering your eyes with your free hand while aiming. And on a 30" at max resolution, 1:1 accuracy counts for a great deal[/QUOTE]
And how many people have a monitor that can do higher than 1920x1200? Not enough for what you're saying to matter.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26610694]And how many people have a monitor that can do higher than 1920x1200? Not enough for what you're saying to matter.[/QUOTE]
None of which changes facts > your opinion.
[QUOTE=27X;26610789]None of which changes facts > your opinion.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but the MX518 is, factually, the best mouse. Besides the exceedingly rare MX500 of course. And your saying that DPI matters in how accurate a mouse is is still wrong.
A normal 20 dollar mice
I use a Razer Diamondback 3G, I much prefer the ergonomics to a standard mouse.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26610835]Sure, but the MX518 is, factually, the best mouse. Besides the exceedingly rare MX500 of course. And your saying that DPI matters in how accurate a mouse is is still wrong.[/QUOTE]
You'll never be able to get through to them, arguing your point is useless at this point. Also you would think if you had room for a monitor that big you'd have room for a bigger mousepad.
At the same DPI/polling rate/settings and on the same surface, I play osu! better on a G500 than a G5, and significantly better than an MX518.
Each has its own pros and cons, but in terms of tracking performance the G500 is easily the best in my experience. There's a reason why decent mice use lasers - the maximum speed the sensor supports is certainly not the most important factor.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;26613066]At the same DPI/polling rate/settings and on the same surface, I play osu! better on a G500 than a G5, and significantly better than an MX518.
Each has its own pros and cons, but in terms of tracking performance the G500 is easily the best in my experience. There's a reason why decent mice use lasers - the maximum speed the sensor supports is certainly not the most important factor.[/QUOTE]
I guess you're just retarded. And what the fuck is osu?
[QUOTE=Odellus;26613888]I guess you're just retarded. And what the fuck is osu?[/QUOTE]
A rhythm game. On the mouse side of things it involves following a fixed pattern at a very fast pace (faster than most fps gameplay).
Shit gets so intense that a lot of people prefer to play with a pen tablet.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26613888]I guess you're just retarded. And what the fuck is osu?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://osu.ppy.sh/[/url]
The Cyborg R.A.T. 7 is about $100, and you can adjust freaking [i]everything[/i] on that mouse. A friend of mine bought one and he loves it.
Also, I don't understand why everybody hates Razer so much. I had a Lachesis, and now a Mamba, both have worked great and both were very comfortable.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26610835]Sure, but the MX518 is, factually, the best mouse. Besides the exceedingly rare MX500 of course. And your saying that .[/QUOTE]
Factually since it literally can't be used by a left hander, factually it isn't.
[quote]DPI matters in how accurate a mouse is is still wrong [/quote]
Seeing as I use that exact function in variable modes per task for my job every day, hours on the day, I'm not even going to bother to tell you how stupid that statement is.
DPI counts greater then 2000 seem pointless to me. My G5v2 I use at 2000dpi in a desktop environment but I stick to 800dpi for gaming. You can be much more precise with a low dpi mouse, but you do need to move your arm significantly more.
The MX518 is an awesome mouse, it can track perfectly even at incredibly high speeds. It also has a much nicer weight the the G5/G500/G9. It actually balanced front to back. Optical and laser sensors both have nuances to them, I find the optical is better for just about everything but tracking on glass.
I have a spare MS Intellimouse 3 I have for when I travel with my laptop and even if its only 400dpi its great for gaming. Its got good shape and weight is nice. It is also able to use palm or claw grips on.
Best way to pick a mouse is to go to a store and try them, just like with a TV.
holy fucking shit why do you need to spend $100 on a mouse
G9x
Shogun Bros. Chameleon X-1 :smug: $55
[QUOTE=M_B;26617528]holy fucking shit why do you need to spend $100 on a mouse[/QUOTE] I do not HAVE to spend everything on a mouse. I am just asking for something beneath that price
And i have chosen an MX518 for now. Gonna head to the closest electronics store tomorrow to check it out. Thanks for all the suggestions by the way.
[QUOTE=Odellus;26592668]MX518. Still the best mouse to this day.[/QUOTE]
I agree, the 1600 DPI version is the best out there. I still have 2.
However, you forget to mention, that the MX518 have been "updated" with new hardware and sensor. I really doubt the new sensor is better, but the 1600 DPI version has been out of production for some time, and only the 1800 DPI version is being produced right now.
Wish I had bought at least 10 old ones, before they got updated..
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I like mine to an extent. It's a fairly good weight, though not too heavy. The material is grippy enough, though not to the point where it's uncomfortable. The scroll wheel has a nice, smooth click to it.
But that scroll wheel is starting to fuck up after only two years of use. It jumps around sometimes, when you use the middle click to open a new tab, it frequently opens two tabs (Yes I've updated the firmware, didn't do shit). When I took it apart in attempt to clean it, I discovered they used pointed screws (Like woodscrews) which resulted in me needing to drill out a stripped screw. Not fun.
It's a good mouse when it works, though I can't recommend it considering the reviews for the MX518 suggest that people have been using them heavily for half a decade without experiencing problems.
I just bought a mouse named Rapoo V2 with the price only $ 17. you know the benefits? it has 3200DPi and 1000hz Ultrapolling Rates. I can save a lot of money to buy a HD 6870 CrossFire: D. It also has the softwere to control mouse functions itself same as high-end mouse :D
[editline]13th December 2010[/editline]
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I don't know what all these fancy numbers and features mean, but I love my MX518. I'd definitely recommend it.
I dislike big and clunky mice like the MX512.
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