General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50734475]Sounds good to me. I read some Reddit threads bitching about how they made a simple mistake one time years ago which apparently makes the distro unfavorable, but it just sounds like a lot of fanboy bitching to me. I should make sure my laptop supports VT-d and wipe it, install Manjaro, then setup a Windows gaming virtual machine. I wanted to dump MATE for XFCE anyway, this is a good excuse to do it :v:[/QUOTE] What distro fanboys getting bitchy? [I]Never.[/I]

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;50734450]They hold back packages and the like to ensure stability, kind of like Debian but less silly[/QUOTE] Though, arch itself is pretty stable, at least nowadays. I don't think I've really heard of an update breaking something unless the user had tweaked it heavily, and if so, well, that'd happen even on other distros. It might not be stable as in "My servers that need to be up 99.9% of the time should use arch!" but for a desktop, it's pretty good. Another distro that focuses on stability without being quite like debian and yet still being easy is Mageia, which I found pretty nice. I'm not quite sure why it's rarely mentioned though, even despite being top 10 on distrowatch (yeah yeah I know.)

99.9% uptime is shit though

Can I use Linux-ck with Manjaro? There shouldn't be any reason I can't, right?

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50736297]Can I use Linux-ck with Manjaro? There shouldn't be any reason I can't, right?[/QUOTE] It's just a kernel, do it bruh Won't make much difference in performance/responsiveness tho, but you can always try it out

[QUOTE=ichiman94;50736348]It's just a kernel, do it bruh Won't make much difference in performance/responsiveness tho, but you can always try it out[/QUOTE] I already use Linux-ck + bfq scheduler on my arch install, and it's actually given me a huge benefit in reducing stuttering in 3D applications. I was asking because I want to continue using it :v: Also yeah Arch is stable most of the time but every so often something will break. For example libtorrent/qbittorrent on my system has a bug with the configuration file; it won't launch if it exists. I wouldn't mind waiting a week or two for updates just so that never happens.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50736229]SLA99.9% is good though.[/QUOTE] No it's actually pretty crap?

three nines is pretty shit [img]http://i.imgur.com/vhab8GV.png[/img] year,month,week,day

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;50734450]They hold back packages and the like to ensure stability, kind of like Debian but less silly[/QUOTE] i really hate how old debian stuff is, but i've grown accustomed to the environment so much that i probably wouldn't be able to change :suicide:

So I'm trying to run a forum on my arch server, which is using nginx and php 7. BUT, vanilla forums cannot work with php7, and is intended to be used with php 5.6. Is there a nice thing like python virtualenv that could be used here to just have it in a container? Most likely not because php doesn't really do the whole package management thing well AFAIK but I thought I'd ask. If not I could just wait for a new version (next will have it, beta works, but eh. I probably shouldn't use it) or perhaps use discourse which I find a bit weird but it's slick at least. Also has anyone here used alpine linux? It looks pretty interesting, musl libc, busybox, openRC, and has things like grsec and other security features by default. I think I'll have to give it a try sometime.

[QUOTE=Giraffen93;50737498]i really hate how old debian stuff is, but i've grown accustomed to the environment so much that i probably wouldn't be able to change :suicide:[/QUOTE] If you want a stable environment use one that is stable by actually being good instead of being old like CentOS or Suse.

[QUOTE=Levelog;50738189]If you want a stable environment use one that is stable by actually being good instead of being old like CentOS or Suse.[/QUOTE] making a nod back to debian here or what? i mean yeah stable is good but when it doesn't have functions from like [B]two[/B] years ago then it's really bothering me

SUSE isn't really old though, it's just not Fedora-tier new

I meant it as in CentOS and SUSE attain stability by being stable, in contrast to debian which is stable because it's just old as shit. Not sure if that was clear.

[QUOTE=Anderen2;50717591]No shame in starting small, we've all been there :)[/QUOTE] yeah sorry for bothering you specifically, but what am i supposed to do now, except restart? :pudge: i don't think it's magically fixed itself with the rtnetlink shit

Probably a specific and also slightly weird question, But what's the best mini-pci Express wireless LAN card that supports operating as a Access Point, but also as a minimum has full support for the 802.11n wireless standard, but optionally fully supports the 802.11ac standard, [B]BUT [/B]ontop of that also has good driver support in UNIX based environments as a whole?

That's a mouthful. Umm... Something that isn't broadcom. [editline]21st July 2016[/editline] But all [I]should[/I] support being an AP. It is just a WiFi radio after all. I'm pretty sure there are some nice Intel ones that play well with *nix.

I'd just find any that fits that description and then look up its chipset for various *nixes.

I guess the real question is what are you trying to do? Make a PFSense box?

[QUOTE=Levelog;50750851]I guess the real question is what are you trying to do? Make a PFSense box?[/QUOTE] Maybe, the software & OS isn't fully decided yet, but I have a Intel D510MO board stuffed full of RAM laying around and gathering dust, and been needing a better router for some time + A decent firewall added in the mix can only be a good thing. [editline]21st July 2016[/editline] Probably gonna stuff a Intel PWLA8391GT in the PCI slot.

Hey guys, please forgive me for the standard "what distro question". I've been using Elementary for web dev work for a while but I'm getting fed up of the sheer amount of bugs. Wondering what to switch to. -Primarily for web dev work - so easily accessible packages for Node, Mongo, Redis etc are helpful. -Slight preference for apt-get over other package managers. -Fairly simple and light would be ideal. -Intermediate user when it comes to Linux I've been leaning towards Ubuntu or variants - I'm running 14.04 LTS on my VPS so would it be worth just having the same? Alternatively I really used to like #! - is there a good replacement?

[QUOTE=SataniX;50755659]Hey guys, please forgive me for the standard "what distro question". I've been using Elementary for web dev work for a while but I'm getting fed up of the sheer amount of bugs. Wondering what to switch to. -Primarily for web dev work - so easily accessible packages for Node, Mongo, Redis etc are helpful. -Slight preference for apt-get over other package managers. -Fairly simple and light would be ideal. -Intermediate user when it comes to Linux I've been leaning towards Ubuntu or variants - I'm running 14.04 LTS on my VPS so would it be worth just having the same? Alternatively I really used to like #! - is there a good replacement?[/QUOTE] Ubuntu 16.04 is the new LTS release, if you're going Ubuntu, go with that. [code]$ sudo apt install nodejs mongodb redis-server[/code] Incidentally, in Ubuntu at least, you should stop using apt-* and start using "apt" for most of your commands. It's basically a wrapper around the existing commands that makes them pretty, but it's also less typing. If you're willing to take the plunge to Gentoo, that's also fairly simple (though you may need to change the configuration, as the defaults are pretty barebones, but this isn't difficult). [code]$ su - # sudo doesn't come preinstalled because lightweightness $ emerge redis mongodb nodejs[/code] There are of course, other options, but I don't have anything running Fedora or openSUSE or whatever at the moment, so I couldn't tell you how well they fit.

I installed a [url=http://www.lakka.tv/]Lakka[/url], the Libretro guys' official distro, on my [url=http://www.cnet.com/products/gateway-t-6330u/specs/#p=gateway-t-6330u/]ancient laptop[/url]. I'm extremely impressed with how well this works. I plugged in my PS3 controller and bam, it worked. I wanted to use HDMI out and expected it to be a huge issue like it almost always is on Linux for some reason so I plugged my HDMI cable in, changed the monitor index, and changed the audio output to HDMI and bam, it worked. I chucked a bunch of PS1 roms in and bam, they worked. If you want a Linux emulation machine this OS is probably the best thing I ever used for that specific task. Everything works super good. My only complaint is that I can't set the time.

[QUOTE=lavacano;50755895] If you're willing to take the plunge to Gentoo, that's also fairly simple (though you may need to change the configuration, as the defaults are pretty barebones, but this isn't difficult). [/QUOTE] Gentoo does look interesting. How good is it out of the box? Particularly network drivers since I don't really feel up to configuring them manually.

[QUOTE=SataniX;50755995]Gentoo does look interesting. How good is it out of the box? Particularly network drivers since I don't really feel up to configuring them manually.[/QUOTE] As long as you don't have anything gross like an older Broadcom wireless card, you can cheat and use genkernel instead of configuring the kernel manually. Everything else requires some actual effort, but it's not as bad as it sounds: you can use any installation medium you want (Ubuntu is a popular choice for installing Gentoo), and use any tools you like up to formatting the disks and mounting them to directories, then just pick up from the [url=https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Stage]installation chapter[/url] of the handbook, and it will walk you through the whole thing. If you can run simple apt commands without melting your entire Ubuntu system, you can install Gentoo. Out of the box, it comes with just enough stuff to boot (minus the bootloader, you probably want GRUB2), so you're going to have to pick your own extra packages out. Portage is fairly straightforward to deal with, though. [code] # all commands as root (or via sudo) $ emerge nodejs mongodb redis # install command, takes any number of package names, shortnames, # atoms, combinations thereof $ emerge --sync # equiv. to "apt update" $ emerge -u world # ditto "apt upgrade" $ emerge -uDN world # "apt distupgrade" $ emerge -uDN --with-bdeps=y world # "apt distupgrade" but more zealous $ emerge -e world # "-e" means "pretend absolutely nothing is installed" # use only in case the entire system explodes [/code] For those few times where it isn't, [url=https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page]we've got a solid wiki of our own[/url], [url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/]Arch's wiki also applies for everything except actual installation commands[/url], and #gentoo on Freenode has put up with so many asinine questions from me alone that they can take on anything at this point.

[QUOTE=lavacano;50756308]As long as you don't have anything gross like an older Broadcom wireless card[/QUOTE] Ah.... Before reading this I did download and burn the standard minimal installer - my wireless adapter doesn't even show up in lspci. Since I'm on a laptop, wired isn't really an option. Is there anything in sort of in between Gentoo/Arch and Ubuntu/Mint?

[QUOTE=SataniX;50756397]Ah.... Before reading this I did download and burn the standard minimal installer - my wireless adapter doesn't even show up in lspci. Since I'm on a laptop, wired isn't really an option. Is there anything in sort of in between Gentoo/Arch and Ubuntu/Mint?[/QUOTE] Did you consider Debian? It has stable if you like it rock solid, testing if you like it a bit more updated like Ubuntu, and unstable if you prefer the more rolling-release-ish one, similar to Gentoo/Arch. But be careful of broken packages if you go for unstable!

[QUOTE=AG;50756494]Did you consider Debian? It has stable if you like it rock solid, testing if you like it a bit more updated like Ubuntu, and unstable if you prefer the more rolling-release-ish one, similar to Gentoo/Arch. But be careful of broken packages if you go for unstable![/QUOTE] It's on my list! At the moment I'm going to set up Ubuntu Server (to build up) and Debian seperately, then see which I like more.

[QUOTE=SataniX;50756397]Ah.... Before reading this I did download and burn the standard minimal installer - my wireless adapter doesn't even show up in lspci. Since I'm on a laptop, wired isn't really an option. Is there anything in sort of in between Gentoo/Arch and Ubuntu/Mint?[/QUOTE] I'd say Fedora is an in between and I highly recommend it regardless. CentOS if you want stable, and not stupid stable like Debian handles it.

[QUOTE=Levelog;50757745]I'd say Fedora is an in between and I highly recommend it regardless. CentOS if you want stable, and not stupid stable like Debian handles it.[/QUOTE] Is CentOS good enough for every day use? I always saw from a distance that CentOS was designed for use in enterprise servers.