General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;51030704]If I remove the linux-firmware package on Fedora, would a regenerated initramfs be any different?[/QUOTE]
Yes. It likely wouldn't include the GPU binary blobs needed to run your GPU anymore. Yes, that also affects the "open source" drivers, since they rely on proprietary software too.
[editline]11th September 2016[/editline]
Oh and wifi drivers are probably out the window too, but I'm not too sure about that.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51030618]Well, we had to use Windows 10 and Visual Studio 2015. I don't know what you're using, but we had to use something that would be applicable for the future it seems. With Windows alone taking up more than 15GB on an empty install, we ended up quickly with using 35GB for just these base installs and updates.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my university is behind on the times. Have to use specifically 7 Pro, with specifically VS2010, and specifically Access 2010 (which isn't on Dreamspark hence 2013) for a database because everyone knows Access is the most performant and commonly used database engine. Textbook is useless because it's all in VB.NET and I'm using C# so I don't have to hang myself, teacher doesn't appear to really know what she is teaching ("you can't use less than and greater than in XML data" [noparse]<![CDATA[asdf]]>[/noparse] too difficult I guess), still uses ArrayList that's been deprecated for a fucking decade and upon asking if I can use List<T> instead she called it an "advanced feature".
The lecturers that were teaching the Linux side of things just all over seemed to be more competent to be honest, even provided VM images for Virtual Box and VMWare in case people didn't know how to install Debian.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51030728]Yes. It likely wouldn't include the GPU binary blobs needed to run your GPU anymore. Yes, that also affects the "open source" drivers, since they rely on proprietary software too.
[editline]11th September 2016[/editline]
Oh and wifi drivers are probably out the window too, but I'm not too sure about that.[/QUOTE]
Only for AMD and Intel. I'm pretty sure nvidia will work without that, if you like nouveau (hardly anyone sticks with it)
can always check this if he knows what driver he has
[URL]https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/linux-firmware/[/URL]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51030811]can always check this if he knows what driver he has
[URL]https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/linux-firmware/[/URL][/QUOTE]
It's for a modified Fedora Cloud image anyway, where linux-firmware is already removed but only after the initramfs gets generated. I just wanted to see if I could cut down the image size. I know the differences will be minor but I don't really care :v:
What are some decent, low-resource native Linux games that have some legs on them? I have games like Stardew Valley and Terraria and Starbound and Minecraft, for example.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51031481]What are summer decent, low-resource native Linux games that have some legs on them? I have games like Stardew Valley and Terraria and Starbound and Minecraft, for example.[/QUOTE]
Maybe KSP? Depends how low-resource you're after. Or you could pick up Dota2/CSGO if you play those.
I'm using an old i3 with 6GB RAM and Intel integrated. I'm not looking for anything competitive like DOTA 2 or CS, I have a gaming desktop for things like that.
The only linux game that exists is super tux kart so you'll have to stick with that sorry
btw what do you mean "have legs on them?" looking at what you listed im assuming you mean moddability maybe?
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51031481]What are some decent, low-resource native Linux games that have some legs on them? I have games like Stardew Valley and Terraria and Starbound and Minecraft, for example.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/]FTL: Faster Than Light[/url]
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
I don't know what "have legs on them" is supposed to mean either, I'm assuming "more complex than Hunt the Wumpus" though
Sorry, I meant something that can consume my time for a very long time. Undertale or Brothers: Tale of Two Sons are great games, for example, but once you've played them once or twice you've pretty much exhausted them. Something like Crypt of the Necrodancer and Terraria can be enjoyed for hundreds of hours thanks to either procedural generation or sheer length or both. Yes, mods would count.
Which reminds me I have been having issues getting GZDoom running with MIDI support, I'll have to post error logs later. Because Doom with mods opens up a whole boatload of options.
Things that come to mind just based on what I've got installed on my laptop are FTL, Starbound, CIV5 if it can huff it, any dungeon crawler if you're into that, crusader kings and similar if you're into those games.
Binding of Isaac, Distance, FTL, Brogue, and Xonotic are things I like to install to waste time on.
KotOR 2 with TSLRCM?
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51030051]Visual Studio isn't, but Visual Studio Code is. Those are not the same products at all. Far from it. The former is a huge ((GB+?????)) IDE, and the second is Atom with plugins pre-installed.[/QUOTE]
The huge part in a full VS installation is the extra components like the Android SDK and phone emulator images.
Visual Studio is definitely not available on Linux, but MonoDevelop (which, via Xamarin, is now actually owned by Microsoft) is heavily inspired by it.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51030051]Visual Studio isn't, but Visual Studio Code is. Those are not the same products at all. Far from it. The former is a huge ((GB+?????)) IDE, and the second is Atom with plugins pre-installed.[/QUOTE]
It's almost entirely different to Atom. It uses Electron, which is basically just a blank Chrome window. They aren't the same! Electron is used for a lot things, not just Atom [url]http://electron.atom.io/apps/[/url]
[editline]15th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51030445]Xamarin is not a phone thing. It's the company (now owned by Microsoft) that develops Mono, which is a cross-platform open source version of .NET
Basically allows you to write C# (and other .NET languages) apps for platforms other than Windows, including Linux, Android, Mac, etc. Xamarin also has their own Visual Studio-like IDE that I forget the name of.[/QUOTE]
Mono isn't the only xplat .NET implementation, proper .NET also runs on OS X, Linux and Freebsd in .NET Core, which is basically .NET with a reduced API surface.
[editline]15th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51030295]Xamarin is a different language? I knew it did some of those, but I didn't know that those were part of the very minimum package. Visual Studio does take up 8GB if you deselect everything but the core.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure this is being improved in Visual Studio "15" with the new Willow installer, see [url]https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/heaths/2016/09/15/changes-to-visual-studio-15-setup/[/url]
[QUOTE=ben1066;51052991]
Pretty sure this is being improved in Visual Studio "15" with the new Willow installer, see [URL]https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/heaths/2016/09/15/changes-to-visual-studio-15-setup/[/URL][/QUOTE]
-snip- it may actually have been fixed, i'll have to review that
I've got ahold of an old-as-fuck Pentium 200, with 4Mb of RAM and a 2Gb IDE HDD. While I think about what to do with it, should I go with Puppy Linux, or Damn Small Linux?
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51053902]I've got ahold of an old-as-fuck Pentium 200, with 4Mb of RAM and a 2Gb IDE HDD. While I think about what to do with it, should I go with Puppy Linux, or Damn Small Linux?[/QUOTE]
I don't think you'll have much luck getting either of those distros running with 4M RAM, but try them out and report back what happens.
Yeah DSL wouldn't run well on my Intel 75mhz and 16mb RAM so I doubt it would on that
[QUOTE=ben1066;51052991]It's almost entirely different to Atom. It uses Electron, which is basically just a blank Chrome window. They aren't the same! Electron is used for a lot things, not just Atom [url]http://electron.atom.io/apps/[/url][/QUOTE]
Atom ran like shit for me after installing about 6-7 plugins on a mid-2012 MacBook Pro. I heard about VS code and decided to give it a shot, with its built-in features and about 6-7 or more plugins as well, it still ran fast, there's some other stuff I like about it as well but each to their own
Ever since IP aliasing was setup on my dedicated machine nothing can contact the server like game tracker or the main server list on garrysmod, default port on each IP and each server is running correctly and able to connect, I don't have any blocked ports on the machine so pretty sure its nothing to do with ports. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 if this means anything.
Everything is setup correctly in the network so there shouldn't be an issue with this, i don't have any blocked IP's, or ports. Anyone can ping the server fine and connect so why would this be an issue right now?
[QUOTE=djjkps2;51057172]Atom ran like shit for me after installing about 6-7 plugins on a mid-2012 MacBook Pro. I heard about VS code and decided to give it a shot, with its built-in features and about 6-7 or more plugins as well, it still ran fast, there's some other stuff I like about it as well but each to their own[/QUOTE]
I've tried Atom so many times and wanted to use it but performance is such a huge issue for that program. Starting up (even on a high end i7 + SSD) can take a few seconds compared to Sublime's almost near instant opening.
[QUOTE=Adzter;51060179]I've tried Atom so many times and wanted to use it but performance is such a huge issue for that program. Starting up (even on a high end i7 + SSD) can take a few seconds compared to Sublime's almost near instant opening.[/QUOTE]
I'm a 7200RPM and AMD FX-8350 scrub, so I'm stuck with vim and pluma for editing. It works well enough though, and provide the same featuresets, but I would've liked to be able to use Atom, mostly because it supports vim bindings and stuff. But it's just such a slow system.
try switching Atom's git integration off, should boost atom on git directories.
and it seems like Atom 1.10+ is based on NodeJS 5.X.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;51060676]try switching Atom's git integration off, should boost atom on git directories.
and it seems like Atom 1.10+ is based on NodeJS 5.X.[/QUOTE]
In my experience (month or so ago) even after turning off 90% of the features (effectively making it ms notepad) it'd still just had slow performance. I just found you can't beat native performance over HTML/JS.
Surprising Atom will start up within one to two seconds for me and i haven't turned anything off just added everything to work for garrysmod, I'm running at 4ghz with a shitty HP HDD because mine went out lol. Though there will be sometimes where it doesn't even start up.
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;51033251]KotOR 2 with TSLRCM?[/QUOTE]
I bought this because it was on sale on Steam today. I was impressed with how well this worked on Linux. I installed the game, it worked fine, and I installed TSLRCM and M4-78 EP through the Steam Workshop and bam, everything worked perfectly.
Also for Terraria, fun fact: the FNA it ships with is an older version. If you run this script and follow the instructions though, it will update it.
[url]https://gist.github.com/flibitijibibo/f06e3f60eb66e5462da824e490229591[/url]
Once I did that, big fat FPS boost.
I recently got a fresh Arch install with i3 and I want to keep it clean and cool. My question is, is it okay to install a lot of applications and can that lead to crappy system or low performance? These applications don't startup when you start the system or anything, as far as I know they only take hard disk space.
I still have nightmares from Windows where installing new application meant new crap in registry, an updater that drops to startup, more fragmented NTFS disk, and just generally bad time. Can someone confirm or deny whether I'm crazy or not for thinking that I can get away with installing random shit from official repos all the time and still have a sensible and performant system? Do things just work together as seamlessly as I imagine they do or do things tend to break when you have a lot of packages?
It's funny how much faster Sublime is, compared to stuff like VSC and Atom, when you consider that it's not some carefully crafted beast written in C++, it's just Python, and usually with a lot of third-party extensions too.
I wouldn't worry too hard about it. you won't have to worry about registry fuckery because the registry doesn't exist on Linux.
Just experiment. If you don't like something you can simply uninstall it. I don't use Arch so I don't know what the pacman equivalent to autoremove is, but you can use something like that to totally clear out shit after uninstalling. (Autoremove removes orphaned packages; left over packages from when you uninstall stuff.)
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