General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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Ninite's kind of terrible anyways. I always find its list pretty disappointing when i try to use it
[QUOTE=Shaun555;51302075]Is there anything similar to Ninite for Linux?[/QUOTE]
No. They did have it but they realized there was really no point and they didn't have the manpower to maintain it plus the windows one.
[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51302920]Ninite's kind of terrible anyways. I always find its list pretty disappointing when i try to use it[/QUOTE]
Absolute fucking heresy and you should feel bad for your opinion. Also ninite is at the mercy of the software companies. They used to have Flash but then they bitched at them because people weren't accidentally installing the mcafee trial that Adobe was getting paid to include. Chrome, MPC, qBit, 7zip, dropbox, VLC, java, .net, silverlight, steam, notepad++, libreoffice, avira, teamviewer, foobar, and paint.net being installed at a single click is a godsend.
Real package managers > ninite
which windows kind of has with either chocolatey or oneget
i dl chocoleteygui on new PCs
it'll update them :)
Has anyone here ever tried an Android app called Termux?
It's a terminal emulator.
It comes with apt, which allows me to install a lot of amazing Linux programs on my android phone.
My question is: can Termux' repositories be trusted? Could the programs I install using apt contain any malware?
Does anyone here use Termux?
Thank you for any and all answers! :smile:
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;51306047]Has anyone here ever tried an Android app called Termux?
It's a terminal emulator.
It comes with apt, which allows me to install a lot of amazing Linux programs on my android phone.
My question is: can Termux' repositories be trusted? Could the programs I install using apt contain any malware?
Does anyone here use Termux?
Thank you for any and all answers! :smile:[/QUOTE]
Termux doesn't like my keyboard and somehow breaks input language switching so I have to swap to the shitty stock keyboard to actually type anything.
I use Termux, the repo is hosted by the app's developer, and the packages are built by him.
Yes, he could put malicious code into the packages he's hosting, but he hasn't done it so far, and he's been keeping the project up for quite a while now.
[QUOTE=nikomo;51306128]I use Termux, the repo is hosted by the app's developer, and the packages are built by him.
Yes, he could put malicious code into the packages he's hosting, but he hasn't done it so far, and he's been keeping the project up for quite a while now.[/QUOTE]All right, thank you very much for your answer!
I wonder which privileges & permissions Termux has in Android. Surely not su?
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51304290]Real package managers > ninite
which windows kind of has with either chocolatey or oneget
i dl chocoleteygui on new PCs
it'll update them :)[/QUOTE]
Oneget is pretty trash, never used chocolatey though
[QUOTE=Levelog;51306671]Oneget is pretty trash, never used chocolatey though[/QUOTE]
I know people who uses Apple computers for the *nix environment without bothering to install Linux or *bsd swears by it, so it's either surprisingly good or they're just used to being shafted hard.
[QUOTE=Levelog;51306671]Oneget is pretty trash, never used chocolatey though[/QUOTE]
Chocolatey doesn't compare to GNU/Linux package management, but it's a hell of a lot better than the normal way of googling shit and going through horrible installers
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51289676]So does GNOME, you can add it for other DEs/WMs. They use something called libnotify[/QUOTE]
libnotify is actually meant as a DE-agnostic way of sending notifications to whatever notification daemon happened to be running. GNOME, XFCE, KDE, whatever, if it understands the desktop notifications protocol it just werks.
Internally I think it just uses DBus
[editline]4th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51307155]Chocolatey doesn't compare to GNU/Linux package management, but it's a hell of a lot better than the normal way of googling shit and going through horrible installers[/QUOTE]
Chocolatey comes close to being apt-like for Windows, the thing is last I looked at it, it had less packages than Ninite.
[QUOTE=lavacano;51308368]libnotify is actually meant as a DE-agnostic way of sending notifications to whatever notification daemon happened to be running. GNOME, XFCE, KDE, whatever, if it understands the desktop notifications protocol it just werks.
Internally I think it just uses DBus
[editline]4th November 2016[/editline]
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Chocolatey comes close to being apt-like for Windows, the thing is last I looked at it, it had less packages than Ninite.[/B][/QUOTE]
Chocolatey has just over 4000?
ninite has like, 50.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51308872]Chocolatey has just over 4000?
ninite has like, 50.[/QUOTE]
fuck, how long ago did I look at it
it doesn't feel like that long ago but clearly...
[QUOTE=Number-41;51306221]I wonder which privileges & permissions Termux has in Android. Surely not su?[/QUOTE]No, it doesn't have su.
[QUOTE=Number-41;51306221]I wonder which privileges & permissions Termux has in Android. Surely not su?[/QUOTE]
It will if you run su.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51312011]It will if you run su.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
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[QUOTE=helifreak;51312032]Nope.
[t]https://helifreak.duckdns.org/image/Screenshot_2016-11-05-21-29-33.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Not even on a rooted phone? That's really odd.
TBH a Terminal Emulator and BusyBox (both available on PlayStore) goes a long way on a rooted phone than Termux. Termux is an entirely self-contained environment, not surprised that you can't do much with it.
Once you have both you can just "su" and SuperSU prompts you for root. With Busybox you have the bare-minimum to build something on your phone/tablet, or even prepare a chroot environment and download some ARM linux distro.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51312040]Not even on a rooted phone? That's really odd.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's with SuperSU. "Android Terminal Emulator" on the play store is a proper one and running su does launch the SuperSU dialogue (and keyboard work properly to boot).
[QUOTE=ichiman94;51312107]TBH a Terminal Emulator and BusyBox (both available on PlayStore) goes a long way on a rooted phone than Termux. Termux is an entirely self-contained environment, not surprised that you can't do much with it.
Once you have both you can just "su" and SuperSU prompts you for root. With Busybox you have the bare-minimum to build something on your phone/tablet, or even prepare a chroot environment and download some ARM linux distro.[/QUOTE]
All you'd really need for running a different distro would be proot.
I have successfully managed to install ArchLinux on my old 2010 laptop with XFCE as my desktop and Compiz as a window managerIt feels so damn satisfied to do this. Good bye Antergos, you were a good distro for introducing me the ArchLinux system.
if i have an android device with an x86 processor in it like [url=http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/lenovo/yoga-tablet-series/yoga-tab-3-pro-10/]this thing[/url] how would i get it to run a proper distro natively? and assuming i managed that, how many things would go horribly wrong i.e. would the wacky built in projector still work?
[editline]9th November 2016[/editline]
these are hypothetical questions (for now)
[QUOTE=Little Donny;51329505]if i have an android device with an x86 processor in it like [url=http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/lenovo/yoga-tablet-series/yoga-tab-3-pro-10/]this thing[/url] how would i get it to run a proper distro natively? and assuming i managed that, how many things would go horribly wrong i.e. would the wacky built in projector still work?
[editline]9th November 2016[/editline]
these are hypothetical questions (for now)[/QUOTE]
If it has a traditional BIOS or UEFI should be as simple as just selecting a boot device and installing. However, I don't know if some x86 tablets don't use a normal UEFI or have it horribly locked down.
I'm guessing the projector wouldn't work, as nothing else is going to have those drivers, unless it uses a pretty standard interface like DisplayPort internally.
At work we've been having so many fucking issues with a QNAP TS-809U-RP 8-bay NAS SATA 19'' rack-mounted server, but today we finally got a solution.
We'd been trying to boot from internal harddrives, even took out the internal ADM II 128MB IDE SSD system, but couldn't find an adapter anywhere, until I ended up bringing two USB sticks, and finally got it to boot from a USB, so I could install a different system to the other USB, and set up a MUCH better NAS systems.
Fuckin' Linux, man! Making my day.
So since Trump won I don't have to stream myself installing gentoo as fast as I can to avoid a ban
thats nice
Well someone on the thread was asking on how they could set up a Minecraft server with a dedicated root server, and well, what i can say is that in contrast to other server types, dedicated servers offer the high performance capacity exclusively earmarked for your project’s needs i found this [URL="https://www.1and1.co.uk/digitalguide/server/know-how/setting-up-a-minecraft-server-with-a-dedicated-server/"]article[/URL] which is a fantastic summary on how to get Minecraft up and running on Windows
[QUOTE=mistress_tech;51379267]Well someone on the thread was asking on how they could set up a Minecraft server with a dedicated root server, and well, what i can say is that in contrast to other server types, dedicated servers offer the high performance capacity exclusively earmarked for your project’s needs i found this article which is a fantastic summary on how to get Minecraft up and running on Windows [url]https://www.1and1.co.uk/digitalguide/server/know-how/setting-up-a-minecraft-server-with-a-dedicated-server/[/url][/QUOTE]
Windows server is aids though.
got in the Chip aka the $9 dollar computer yesterday, it's pretty slow, but I think it's the distro not optimized for a windows environment. That said I like it so far, I intend to use it to control an RC and in time make it a robot.
Microsoft [url=http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/microsoft-yes-microsoft-joins-the-linux-foundation/]joins Linux Foundation[/url], ports Windows to Linux:
[media]https://twitter.com/dev_console/status/799097696959287296[/media]
This fucking year.
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