General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;52122529]I feel the need to warn you I'm completely illiterate with Linux, here goes. I have Ubuntu on a USB flashdrive, and it works. I can boot directly into it from the F12 boot menu. Is there any way to have a driver already installed on the OS? I'm trying to get a windows laptop disinfected, and I can't get the drivers for the NIC to work. My only guess is the drivers it came with are only compatible with 802.11n cards and not g/b. The logical next step is to find a compatible driver for it, and install it somehow. Thing is I can't seem to figure out where in the folders I'm supposed to put any sort of drivers. If someone could point me in the right direction, that'd be great.[/QUOTE] Type 'lsusb' or 'lspci' to find out what hardware you're using exactly, also see if anything besides lo shows up when you type 'sudo ifconfig'. There might be a driver for it, then again there might not, if your laptop has ethernet use that instead.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;52122723]Type 'lsusb' or 'lspci' to find out what hardware you're using exactly, also see if anything besides lo shows up when you type 'sudo ifconfig'. There might be a driver for it, then again there might not, if your laptop has ethernet use that instead.[/QUOTE] Alright, so. It turns out it's a BCM4311, which apparently means I'm going to have a bit of a difficult time getting it working. Plugging it into the ethernet absolutely is not an option due to the risk of infecting everything on the network unfortunately. Supposedly, you can transplant packages and have them work flawlessly, but the instructions are beyond me. If someone can walk me through step by step how to get ClamTK working without hooking the bastard up, I will love you forever.

Alternativly a cheap USB wifi adapter that's fully and natively supported by the Linux kernel. And I'm also a fan of BitDefender Rescue CD, apart from suffering from same wifi issues like other distros do due to shitty wifi chipset manufacturers, it's very idiot friendly.

[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;52123681]Alright, so. It turns out it's a BCM4311, which apparently means I'm going to have a bit of a difficult time getting it working. Plugging it into the ethernet absolutely is not an option due to the risk of infecting everything on the network unfortunately. [/QUOTE] Why would plugging it in to the ethernet cause any more risk of spreading than using wireless? Also if this is a Windows machine that is infected, then plugging it in while booted to Linux would be perfectly safe. And last of all, why do you require internet access at all? [QUOTE=JerryAnderson;52123681]Supposedly, you can transplant packages and have them work flawlessly, but the instructions are beyond me. If someone can walk me through step by step how to get ClamTK working without hooking the bastard up, I will love you forever. [/QUOTE] You can install packages offline either by double-clicking the .deb file, or via the terminal by running "sudo dpkg -i package.deb".

[QUOTE=Anderen2;52124161]Why would plugging it in to the ethernet cause any more risk of spreading than using wireless? Also if this is a Windows machine that is infected, then plugging it in while booted to Linux would be perfectly safe. And last of all, why do you require internet access at all? You can install packages offline either by double-clicking the .deb file, or via the terminal by running "sudo dpkg -i package.deb".[/QUOTE] To answer your questions in order, I didn't plan on connecting to my personal internet at all. I was wanting to preferably connect to a different one just to avoid the risk of it spreading. The reason I needed internet access is so I could do it the easy way, and just doing "sudo apt-get install clamav" so I could fire it up and take care of whatever else is on the laptop, and not having to manually transplant things in whatever method it'll need to get it to work.

[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;52124747]To answer your questions in order, I didn't plan on connecting to my personal internet at all. I was wanting to preferably connect to a different one just to avoid the risk of it spreading. The reason I needed internet access is so I could do it the easy way, and just doing "sudo apt-get install clamav" so I could fire it up and take care of whatever else is on the laptop, and not having to manually transplant things in whatever method it'll need to get it to work.[/QUOTE] Ah, I see. However, I still cannot see the risk of infecting your network when you are booted into Linux. But, you can download the clamav packages from packages.ubuntu.com, eg. here if you are running 16.10: [url]http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/clamav[/url] However, please note that not all dependencies for the package may be fulfilled (Neither the virus definitions). One of these answers might work for you regarding the dependencies: - [url]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13756800/how-to-download-all-dependencies-and-packages-to-directory[/url] - [url]https://askubuntu.com/questions/80665/how-can-i-direct-apt-get-to-download-package-and-its-dependencies-to-some-other[/url] And you can find the ClamAV virus definition databases here: - [url]http://database.clamav.net/main.cvd[/url] - [url]http://database.clamav.net/daily.cvd[/url] - [url]http://database.clamav.net/bytecode.cvd[/url] [editline]19th April 2017[/editline] Assuming you are using Ubuntu 16.10, I compiled a tar.gz file with ClamAV and all it's dependencies. You can download it here: [url]http://greker.org/and/clamav_and_deps.tar.gz[/url] NB: This does not contain the previously mentioned virus definition databases, and I've not tested the packages. How I did it (if of interest): [CODE] anderen2@TCC:/tmp/piss$ apt-get download clamav Get:1 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 clamav amd64 0.99.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2 [112 kB] Fetched 112 kB in 0s (637 kB/s) anderen2@TCC:/tmp/piss$ apt-get download $(apt-rdepends clamav | grep -v "^\ " | egrep -v "clamav-data|debconf|cron\-daemon") Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Get:1 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 adduser all 3.113+nmu3ubuntu4 [162 kB] Get:2 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 anacron amd64 2.3-23 [27.1 kB] Get:3 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 base-passwd amd64 3.5.40 [48.4 kB] Get:4 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 clamav-base all 0.99.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2 [57.9 kB] Get:5 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 clamav-freshclam amd64 0.99.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2 [120 kB] Get:6 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 cron amd64 3.0pl1-128ubuntu2 [68.4 kB] Get:7 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 debianutils amd64 4.8 [85.7 kB] Get:8 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 dpkg amd64 1.18.10ubuntu1 [2,139 kB] Get:9 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 gcc-6-base amd64 6.2.0-5ubuntu12 [17.0 kB] Get:10 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 init-system-helpers all 1.45 [37.6 kB] Get:11 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libacl1 amd64 2.2.52-3 [16.1 kB] Get:12 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libasn1-8-heimdal amd64 1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4ubuntu1 [174 kB] Get:13 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libattr1 amd64 1:2.4.47-2 [9,756 B] Get:14 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libaudit-common all 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu1 [4,628 B] Get:15 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libaudit1 amd64 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu1 [37.5 kB] Get:16 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libbsd0 amd64 0.8.3-1 [41.4 kB] Get:17 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libbz2-1.0 amd64 1.0.6-8build1 [30.6 kB] Get:18 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libcap-ng0 amd64 0.7.7-3 [10.9 kB] Get:19 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libclamav7 amd64 0.99.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2 [765 kB] Get:20 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main 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ucf all 3.0036 [52.9 kB] Get:77 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 zlib1g amd64 1:1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu5 [51.1 kB] Get:78 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libcurl3 amd64 7.50.1-1ubuntu1.1 [190 kB] Get:79 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libgnutls30 amd64 3.5.3-5ubuntu1.1 [616 kB] Get:80 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libhogweed4 amd64 3.2-1ubuntu0.16.10.1 [136 kB] Get:81 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libicu57 amd64 57.1-4ubuntu0.1 [7,680 kB] Get:82 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libnettle6 amd64 3.2-1ubuntu0.16.10.1 [92.5 kB] Get:83 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libssl1.0.0 amd64 1.0.2g-1ubuntu9.1 [1,083 kB] Get:84 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 libxml2 amd64 2.9.4+dfsg1-2ubuntu0.1 [698 kB] Get:85 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security/main amd64 tar amd64 1.29b-1ubuntu0.1 [232 kB] Get:86 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 coreutils amd64 8.25-2ubuntu3~16.10 [1,189 kB] Get:87 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libc6 amd64 2.24-3ubuntu2 [2,588 kB] Get:88 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libgssapi-krb5-2 amd64 1.14.3+dfsg-2ubuntu1 [120 kB] Get:89 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libk5crypto3 amd64 1.14.3+dfsg-2ubuntu1 [80.7 kB] Get:90 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libkrb5-3 amd64 1.14.3+dfsg-2ubuntu1 [275 kB] Get:91 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libkrb5support0 amd64 1.14.3+dfsg-2ubuntu1 [31.8 kB] Get:92 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 libsystemd0 amd64 231-9ubuntu3 [209 kB] Get:93 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 multiarch-support amd64 2.24-3ubuntu2 [6,822 B] Fetched 35.1 MB in 3s (9,345 kB/s) anderen2@TCC:/tmp/piss$ tar cf /tmp/clamav_and_deps.tar.gz * [/CODE]

Doing a new Arch install on laptop just to get a fresh start. Been a few years, and doing a special setup, taking a while... might actually sleep mid-install.

So I'm still a noob when it comes to terminal wizardry and I need assistance. So, I got a little laptop on my local network running a Minecraft server. The laptop is on a different floor so I got SSH working on it so I don't have to move my ass to fuck with shit. So, I log in with SSH and start the server. Now the SSH instance is the Minecraft terminal instance. Cool. Suppose I want to temporarily leave that instance and get to a standard instance without closing the servers, maybe to edit files on the machine. How would I do that? Suppose I started the SSH session on my Android phone and I want to access the Minecraft instance on a second remote machine. How would I do that? Finally, let's say I start the server remotely on SSH and I want to access it locally on the machine. How would I do [I]that[/I]? What about vice versa, I started it locally and need to access remotely? My terminology is probably all wrong too. Sorry for that.

I think the "screen" utility is going to help you there. To put it simply, you can create different terminal sessions and access them from anywhere. That means you could use screen to start up your Minecraft server in such a session then you can access it from whatever device, even the local machine, just by typing in the screen attach command. Refer to the screen man pages for more information.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52170640]So I'm still a noob when it comes to terminal wizardry and I need assistance. So, I got a little laptop on my local network running a Minecraft server. The laptop is on a different floor so I got SSH working on it so I don't have to move my ass to fuck with shit. So, I log in with SSH and start the server. Now the SSH instance is the Minecraft terminal instance. Cool. Suppose I want to temporarily leave that instance and get to a standard instance without closing the servers, maybe to edit files on the machine. How would I do that? Suppose I started the SSH session on my Android phone and I want to access the Minecraft instance on a second remote machine. How would I do that? Finally, let's say I start the server remotely on SSH and I want to access it locally on the machine. How would I do [I]that[/I]? What about vice versa, I started it locally and need to access remotely? My terminology is probably all wrong too. Sorry for that.[/QUOTE] screen -S mincefart to start a new virtual terminal, then you can run the server in there, ^a d to drop back to your main session, screen -r mincefart to reconnect to it. -S names the session, it's not required but helps when you have multiple screen sessions going at once (if you don't use it they all get named pid.tty.hostname).

This is exactly what I needed, thanks guys. Works a charm.

Hitler Linux = Best Linux [url]http://resonanceservers.com/hl[/url] (old host for this was down so I copied the source from the web archive onto my website)

what the fuck

I still think Suicide Linux = Best Linux

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52172971]This is exactly what I needed, thanks guys. Works a charm.[/QUOTE] I was having issues with screen and the Minecraft server. After a while I could attach and detach the session but the Minecraft console would stop accepting commands. Tried all sorts of things like ctrl+z and bg and fg but the console would refuse to accept input. Locally or on SSH. So I did some reading and some people were suggesting tmux. So I used that and the issue went away. So the moral of the story is to use tmux instead of screen. [t]https://i.imgur.com/egwKxxw.png[/t] Windows!

What is wrong with Unity? (well I do hate the sidebar thing, never use it and you can't get rid of it) The one thing that really keeps me with Unity is the global menu/topbar. Haven't found anything else that does it well.

[QUOTE=Number-41;52189391]What is wrong with Unity? (well I do hate the sidebar thing, never use it and you can't get rid of it) The one thing that really keeps me with Unity is the global menu/topbar. Haven't found anything else that does it well.[/QUOTE] Personally, I found Unity to be laggy as fuck even on high specs. Swapped to a similar layout using XFCE and sorted.

Yeah pressing the Windows key can indeed be laggy, but still that global menu is essential to me :( Suggestions for desktop environments with a global menu are welcome...

So I've recently seen more discussions on usability of Windows vs. Linux since Windows 10 S is a thing now and I wonder whether or not Linux really is worthy of that "only for pro hackers and bespectacled guys with foot long beards" reputation it has. If you install a DE, that takes a lot away from the terminal, maybe not enough to make it obsolete but I'd argue it's enough for the Average Joe. I feel like I don't have the necessary perspective on the matter because I've found transitioning pretty easy beyond the initial hickups with learning the terminal and now I find Unix-based systems to be objectively superior to Windows in all but familiarity. I'd argue, if I installed Arch on my mom's laptop and set it up with XFCE and a Windows-style taskbar with LibreOffice and Firefox, she won't be any wiser.

The issue with all these "they won't tell the difference" ideas, atleast IMO, is that they're perfectly true until something breaks. Then, good luck explaining how to fix a Linux install or edit a config file.

[QUOTE=SataniX;52204783]The issue with all these "they won't tell the difference" ideas, atleast IMO, is that they're perfectly true until something breaks. Then, good luck explaining how to fix a Linux install or edit a config file.[/QUOTE] This is such a strange viewpoint. If something breaks that requires you to do something like that, then you can't even fix a similar issue on Windows anyway, because there's be no configuration to change, and no code to fix.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;52204811]This is such a strange viewpoint. If something breaks that requires you to do something like that, then you can't even fix a similar issue on Windows anyway, because there's be no configuration to change, and no code to fix.[/QUOTE] But Windows has a whole ecosystem of automated troubleshooters, etc, that deal with stuff like that. For me, I find it annoying as fuck - since they're slower and less useful than I can fix myself, but for people like my grandparents they DO fix the majority of issues.

[QUOTE=SataniX;52204820]But Windows has a whole ecosystem of automated troubleshooters, etc, that deal with stuff like that. For me, I find it annoying as fuck - since they're slower and less useful than I can fix myself, but for people like my grandparents they DO fix the majority of issues.[/QUOTE] I've never had Windows fix an actual issue I had with application breaking. Usually if they break that means I have to find something else entirely, because I can't do anything about it, at all.

Where would I start with troubleshooting why a process keeps closing? I can't find anything of relevance in the programs log files. I have Seafile running on one of my VPS' (dedicated to Seafile) but every now and then at seemingly random times, the seahub process closes which is vital for connections and the web frontend. I was thinking maybe the VPS is running out of memory but it seems to be okay [IMG]https://pred.me/pics/1494427006.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=PredGD;52210058]Where would I start with troubleshooting why a process keeps closing? I can't find anything of relevance in the programs log files. I have Seafile running on one of my VPS' (dedicated to Seafile) but every now and then at seemingly random times, the seahub process closes which is vital for connections and the web frontend. I was thinking maybe the VPS is running out of memory but it seems to be okay [IMG]https://pred.me/pics/1494427006.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] If that graph came from your providers (solusvm?) Control panel the problem is on their end - unless the memory data is collected from a guest daemon in your OS. Typically high iowait or extremely high load on the host will cause those gaps in the graph. Network outages would also cause it, but this doesn't look like the case here. From the hostname it doesn't look like it is with us (afterburst) ; but if it is please do get in contact -- we have no known issues ATM. If a process is unexpectedly ending without an OOM message in your logs and your provider didn't email you, they are likely running something like nodewatch which may be killing your process due to high io load.

[QUOTE=Number-41;52198121]Yeah pressing the Windows key can indeed be laggy, but still that global menu is essential to me :( Suggestions for desktop environments with a global menu are welcome...[/QUOTE] KDE has a "Global menu" widget you can attach to panels. Works great in KDE4 (Using it every day at work), however it just got revamped in KDE 5.9.4 (Which I use at home) and the text is offset which bugs me greatly.

[del]I got my cell phone paired to my laptop running Arch Linux using blueman so that I can use its bluetooth dial-up network connection, but my cell phone requires a specific number to be dialed by the computer to connect to the internet. Is such a thing not supported? [editline]14th May 2017[/editline] Actually, I just realized I can enable blueman's PPPSupport plugin, but now I get the error "Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying".[/del] [editline]14th May 2017[/editline] Nevermind, maybe my cell phone is just incompatible with Linux. I will switch to Android in a month or two anyways.

Why can't I copy&paste in Firefox but I can copy the text, paste it into another program like gedit, copy from gedit and paste in firefox? What should I check? Am using ArchLinux and XFCE

I have a question. Is it possible to use both Nouveau and Nvidia 340.xx drivers and switch between them?, Since i'd like to experience Wayland via nouveau but use nvidia 340.xx drivers for some applications.

[QUOTE=ichiman94;52230549]Why can't I copy&paste in Firefox but I can copy the text, paste it into another program like gedit, copy from gedit and paste in firefox? What should I check? Am using ArchLinux and XFCE[/QUOTE] pacman -Syu and reboot. There was a GTK update that broke c&p recently.