General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!

[DrTaxi]

[QUOTE=Havolis;47367929]Ok thanks!

Another question, no sound is coming from my FiiO E10K. I googled and people didnt seem to have any issues concerning the E10K and Linux. What's wrong?[/QUOTE]

Have you tried fiddling with your audio settings?

My first guess would be that your onboard sound card is set as your system default playback device, and thus everything's playing on that.

[patches]

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;47367984]Have you tried fiddling with your audio settings?

My first guess would be that your onboard sound card is set as your system default playback device, and thus everything's playing on that.[/QUOTE]

I've set both Output and Input to play sound through "Digital Output (S/PDIF)" in the sound settings. When I quit from settings, it resets to built-in audio. How do I save them?

[DrTaxi]

Can't check this right now, but I believe clicking "set as fallback" on your digital output in the Output Devices tab should do it.

If not, play around some more.

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;47367437]There's Void, which is what at least I use. Be warned, though. It sticks more with POSIX-compliant software than Ubuntu did, so don't come crying to me if you notice [B]man[/B](1) lacks an -l flag or that the default vi is not vim-minimal or that it uses mdoc manual pages. If you're feeling bold, I've been having an eye on Funtoo but never got around to trying it.

[editline]#!/usr/bin/awk -f[/editline]

With as influenced as it is by BSD-ish things, it's a miracle Void even comes with GNU awk as opposed to Kernighan's awk.[/QUOTE]

It is very much inspired by BSD-like ways of doing things, but NOT in a bad way. You've got a pretty neat package manager that is INSANELY fast at everything it does. And I mean really, like holy shit, updating my shit on Banana Pi is fast as fuck, compared to anything I've ever used in the past on my desktop and virtualized.
And then there's xbps-src which is a bunch of scripts for handling the compilation and packaging of packages. Pretty easy to define and work with, although there's a lack of proper documentation. I recently added a ToC to the manual, but there's a LOT that goes without mention.

It is pretty small and niche still though, and very much in constant development, but I use it every day on all of my devices with my phone being the only exception so far.

[patches]

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;47368083]Can't check this right now, but I believe clicking "set as fallback" on your digital output in the Output Devices tab should do it.

If not, play around some more.[/QUOTE]

I got it to work, thanks for the help!

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=lavacano;47359358]I'm operating under the assumption that you switched it to systemd early on (it's insanely popular) and that systemd doesn't fail/refuse to boot without an initrd for some god-awful reason (that'd just be terrible programming)[/QUOTE]

Systemd? In [I]my[/I] Gentoo?

Nah, I'm on OpenRC. Resuming with pm-utils needs an initrd

[nikomo]

OpenRC, more like Open Racist Communism.
I prefer my systemd/Linux system.

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=nikomo;47369407]OpenRC, more like Open Racist Communism.[/QUOTE]

What

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=esalaka;47369385]Systemd? In [I]my[/I] Gentoo?

Nah, I'm on OpenRC. Resuming with pm-utils needs an initrd[/QUOTE]

me too man, and i don't use the suspend/hibernate functions so i didn't know an initrd was necessary for those (it does make sense though, when you think about it)

[QUOTE=nikomo;47369407]OpenRC, more like Open Racist Communism.[/QUOTE]

i hope to god this was a joke

because even though it's a really terrible one, "it's a joke" is better than the alternative

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I haven't even been using Ubuntu for more than a day and I can already say that I prefer it over Windows.

[editline]21st March 2015[/editline]

even on my old hdd it's extremely fast.

[lavacano]

wait til you ditch unity and install something else

your computer's gonna go so fast it screams

[Stonecycle]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;47368100]It is very much inspired by BSD-like ways of doing things, but NOT in a bad way.[/QUOTE]

Was I making it sound bad? Whoops. And I'm even debating making the switch to OpenBSD.

[editline]e[/editline]

[QUOTE=lavacano;47369706]wait til you ditch unity and install something else

your computer's gonna go so fast it screams[/QUOTE]

Wait 'till you ditch DEs for WMs. You're computer's gonna go even faster and scream harder.

[editline]e[/editline]

Better yet, wait 'til you ditch X for dvtm+dtach in a TTY. All systems full power!

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47369727]install gnome

never use anything else

[editline]22nd March 2015[/editline]

or lxde if your stuffs lightweight[/QUOTE]

i was going to suggest KDE if he asked because out of the box it's pretty much a Windows clone (you can even pin things to the taskbar now)

you can of course configure it to be radically different but that's for him to play with

[Mors]

To me, MATE feels much like pre-Windows 7 and I quite like it. Nice and lightweight, reasonably good looking and functional. Does anyone else use it?

[Liam]

i've been using xfce for so many years now i don't even notice that i'm on a computer sometimes

[Aska49]

I'm having a serious audio-related problem that I can't find a solution for, maybe someone here has some experience with it. I'm on Mint 17.1.

When using my SB Audigy SE (SB0570) for sound output there is noticeable audio popping/crackling/unpleasantness whenever sound stops and or starts. In other words it happens when going from silence to sound or vice-versa, like pausing a video or music track. If a track is fading in slowly or I'm changing volume for instance I'm hearing static through most of the fade. It's incredibly bad with things like Steam or Twitter notifications which are short sound samples. I don't think it's pulseaudio related because I can bypass that completely and it persists, so I'm worried it's a driver related issue. If that's the case is there any real recourse short of buying a different card?

I should note it doesn't happen on Windows and it's really bumming me out.

[B]Edit:[/B]

Now that I'm back in Windows I'm noticing a light (very very quiet) noise in my headphones, just like idle fuzz. This isn't there on my Linux side. I wonder if it is just cutting off all sound completely when below a certain threshold and the popping is that "gate" opening and closing if that makes sense.

[nikomo]

Unity is like those wristweight things weeaboos wear because they watched that one anime where the characters use those.

You chain yourself down with them for 2 years, take them off, and realize how stupid they were.

[lavacano]

The worst part about playing Bethbryo games on Wine is it's really difficult to tell exactly who's at fault for a glitch most of the time.

Sometimes it's glaringly obvious that it's Wine's fault, like this problem I have where having water refractions turned on will cause post processing to freak out on a regular basis. Sometimes, I'll see a fire ant walking on its pincers instead of its legs and I'm stuck wondering.

[patches]

im sorry for all my questions but where can i download nvidia drivers for ubuntu? i've been looking for them for quite some time and didnt find any that works. My card is a GeForce GTX 560 Ti if that matters.

[willtheoct]

[QUOTE=nikomo;47370595]Unity is like those wristweight things weeaboos wear because they watched that one anime where the characters use those.

You chain yourself down with them for 2 years, take them off, and realize how stupid they were.[/QUOTE]

Ubuntu + Unity user reporting in

fuuuuuck you

Also, Unity looks pretty, and I broke so many things last time I installed another DE.

[QUOTE=Havolis;47373651]im sorry for all my questions but where can i download nvidia drivers for ubuntu? i've been looking for them for quite some time and didnt find any that works. My card is a GeForce GTX 560 Ti if that matters.[/QUOTE]

Nvidia's website. Since it's your first day on linux, this will be a neat challenge for you.

First, you need to get the drivers downloaded:
[url]http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/82252[/url]
Then, you need to shut down the X server(its a window manager fyi). During this process, you won't have access to any windows or mouse.

You also need to install the drivers from a tty (special command window).

[B][U]Getting to tty[/U][/B]
Ctrl-Alt-f2(or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6)
Log in(your password will appear to not show up as you type though) and do necessary commands.
Getting back to the normal window manager: ctrl-alt-f7.

Commands to:
stop X:

sudo service lightdm stop

start X again:

sudo service lightdm start

[B][U]Installation of nvidia drivers[/U][/B]:
Stop X.

Run the nvidia .run file from the tty. Your downloads folder is /home/username/Downloads. you may need to chmod +x the file(add eXecutable permissions to it).

After the drivers are installed, you can start X again.

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^thanks dude, it worked!

[vlad]

[QUOTE=willtheoct;47373725]Ubuntu + Unity user reporting in

fuuuuuck you

Also, Unity looks pretty, and I broke so many things last time I installed another DE.

Nvidia's website. Since it's your first day on linux, this will be a neat challenge for you.

First, you need to get the drivers downloaded:
[url]http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/82252[/url]
Then, you need to shut down the X server(its a window manager fyi). During this process, you won't have access to any windows or mouse.

You also need to install the drivers from a tty (special command window).

[B][U]Getting to tty[/U][/B]
Ctrl-Alt-f2(or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6)
Log in(your password will appear to not show up as you type though) and do necessary commands.
Getting back to the normal window manager: ctrl-alt-f7.

Commands to:
stop X:

sudo service lightdm stop

start X again:

sudo service lightdm start

[B][U]Installation of nvidia drivers[/U][/B]:
Stop X.

Run the nvidia .run file from the tty. Your downloads folder is /home/username/Downloads. you may need to chmod +x the file(add eXecutable permissions to it).

After the drivers are installed, you can start X again.[/QUOTE]

isn't it possible to download the drivers through the package manager or are only the open source ones available there? if they are available, wouldn't it be better to let the package manager handle it? I recall using the nvidia drivers back on my laptop which ran ubuntu which I installed through the package manager

[willtheoct]

[QUOTE=PredGD;47373989]isn't it possible to download the drivers through the package manager or are only the open source ones available there? if they are available, wouldn't it be better to let the package manager handle it? I recall using the nvidia drivers back on my laptop which ran ubuntu which I installed through the package manager[/QUOTE]

you can get an older version of them though apt-get from what I remember, and nouveau is available through that too. But, most people don't want nouveau.

There's no real advantage or disadvantage of getting the drivers from nvidia's site. They're still accessible through the software centre's additional drivers, too.

[benbb]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47374314]This part here is what i had issues with. My GPU is a 750 TI btw. I've tried Nouveau drivers and they throw it into low graphics mode and if I edit it so it can't, it shits the brick still. I've tried the Nvidia drivers from the official website and it still shits the brick, the only GPU drivers I've ever gotten working are my IGP drivers.

Is it an issue that I have both my Intel HD and 750 ti gpu running at the same time?[/QUOTE]

The FOSS Nvidia drivers suck ass on my 750TI too.

On Ubuntu the NVIDIA Proprietary drivers work fine. Download and install from NVIDIA's website, and then add 'nomodeset' to the GRUB boot flags otherwise you'll just get stuck on a purple screen. Everything works flawlessly after that.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=willtheoct;47374201]you can get an older version of them though apt-get from what I remember, and nouveau is available through that too. But, most people don't want nouveau.

There's no real advantage or disadvantage of getting the drivers from nvidia's site. They're still accessible through the software centre's additional drivers, too.[/QUOTE]

i thought Ubuntu kept their nvidia-drivers package relatively up to date

it'd be easy enough to do since they're usually behind a version or three in the kernel, so they don't have the problem of nvidia-drivers occasionally not getting along with the latest kernel because nvidia hadn't updated them yet

[willtheoct]

[QUOTE=lavacano;47374538]i thought Ubuntu kept their nvidia-drivers package relatively up to date

it'd be easy enough to do since they're usually behind a version or three in the kernel, so they don't have the problem of nvidia-drivers occasionally not getting along with the latest kernel because nvidia hadn't updated them yet[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they are pretty up-to-date. Currently it has nvidia-331, from september 2013. Not too shabby.

Still, I assume we all want the newest ones.

fuck what am i saying september 2013 is way out of date just get them from nvidia directly

[vlad]

[QUOTE=willtheoct;47374805]Yeah, they are pretty up-to-date. Currently it has nvidia-331, from september 2013. Not too shabby.

Still, I assume we all want the newest ones.

fuck what am i saying september 2013 is way out of date just get them from nvidia directly[/QUOTE]

latest in the Ubuntu repository is 346 which is a single version behind the Windows one. it's not shabby at all. personally I would have gone with letting the package manager deal with it just for the added convenience when thinking of updates

[willtheoct]

[QUOTE=PredGD;47374867]latest in the Ubuntu repository is 346 which is a single version behind the Windows one. it's not shabby at all. personally I would have gone with letting the package manager deal with it just for the added convenience when thinking of updates[/QUOTE]

That's weird, for some reason I only have nvidia-331 under additional drivers, and apt-get --just-print install nvidia-current doesn't install anything new

[lavacano]

Maybe the latest one is in one of those repos Ubuntu doesn't enable by default

[Flapadar]

[QUOTE=PredGD;47367814]I got grub to work again through installing Windows, going back into installation iso, removing all traces of grub and doing a complete reinstall. now its back for business. only issue is that it didn't auto see my Arch install for some reason and I'm not sure what the menu entry is supposed to look like. it's pointing towards the right partition, the rest I'm clueless on. could someone share what a default arch menu entry looks like?[/QUOTE]

For future reference - when grub dies you can normally fix it by reinstalling grub from live USB and booting using grub's command line if it hasn't listed your OS.

Basically the below (use tab to list options if you're not sure)

root(hd0,<partition>)
kernel /vmlinuz-<version> ro root=/dev/sd<hd id>
initrd /initramfs-<version>.img
boot

I've only ever had to use that method on CentOS boxes, so YMMV