General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!

[Levelog]

[QUOTE=lavacano;47419601]isn't that pretty much what i just said[/QUOTE]

I guess it was just wording. Made it sound like it wasn't an Ubuntu fork, which confused me, because it is.

[vlad]

how would I go about applying a color profile for only one of my monitors?

here's my xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3840 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DVI-I-1 connected primary 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 298mm
   1920x1080     60.00 + 144.00*  119.98    99.93  
   1440x900     119.85  
   1280x1024    119.96    75.02    60.02  
   1024x768     119.99    75.03    60.00  
   800x600      119.97    75.00    60.32  
   640x480      120.01    75.00    59.94  
HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DVI-D-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 477mm x 268mm
   1920x1080     60.00*+
   1280x1024     75.02    60.02  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1024x768      75.03    60.00  
   800x600       75.00    60.32  
   640x480       75.00    59.94  
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

I'm messing around with xfce, but it has no native support for color profiles.

[patches]

[QUOTE=Kwaq;47416691]m8 there should be different usb media modes in the settings, one is like a usb drive and one is like a camera, perhaps you have got it on the wrong one?[/QUOTE]

late answer but its set to mtp (if thats supposed to be it.) if its not how do i change it?

[josm]

Okay, I just discovered how awesome i3 is (after configuring it properly for once).

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=josm;47425609]Okay, I just discovered how awesome i3 is (after configuring it properly for once).[/QUOTE]

Weird, I just fixed a bug in slop for i3. What do you like about i3? I found it really fast, but pretty unintuitive to use.

[josm]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;47425696]Weird, I just fixed a bug in slop for i3. What do you like about i3? I found it really fast, but pretty unintuitive to use.[/QUOTE]

Well, the config is in plaintext and it sets some small things up for you when you start it the first time, so I think that's pretty intuitive.

[naelstrof]

You don't have to defend yourself lmao, I just want to know why you like it.

i3 is fast and it's a tiling window manager, but what sets it above other tiling window managers like Awesome or bspwm?

In my opinion they're all unintuitive when compared to something like Gnome, which I use. I guess I just want someone to convince me that using a tiling window manager is worth not being able to offset my monitors or change my gtk themes with ease.

[Stonecycle]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;47425957]
i3 is fast and it's a tiling window manager, but what sets it above other tiling window managers like Awesome or bspwm?[/QUOTE]

In the end, it's more so on preference and whatever you like about its gimmick.

[URL="http://dwm.suckless.org/"]dwm[/URL] is by the [url=http://suckless.org]Suckless[/url] folks which some people like, but recompiling with config.h every time to change a setting sounds rather sucky. [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wmii"]wmii[/URL] uses the [URL=http://9p.cat-v.org/]9P[/URL] protocol and functions similarly to the [URL="http://acme.cat-v.org/"]Acme[/URL] text editor which is perfect for fans of Plan 9 from Bell Labs and Inferno and /g/ users deeper down the UNIX rabbit hole than OpenBSD users. [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm"]bspwm[/URL] and [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FrankenWM"]frankenwm[/URL] work similarly and they keep out of the way and only take care of windowing, though they work similarly to dwm. [URL="http://herbstluftwm.org/"]herbstluftwm[/URL] is a [I]manual[/I] tiling WM so you have better control on how things work. [URL="http://i3wm.org/"]i3wm[/URL] is usually baby's first tiling WM as it was mine, but it's also manual.

tl;dr You have manual tilers (i3wm, herbstluftwm) as well as dynamic ones (bspwm). If you want to get really advanced, whip up a shell script to emulate tiling with the [url=https://github.com/wmutils/core]wmutils[/url] on a floating WM of your choice (commonly dcat's [URL=https://github.com/dcat/swm]swm[/url], but choose wisely as "Linux is cancerous" as the saying goes).

Then you have multiplexers, mainly for the TTY. [URL="http://tmux.sourceforge.net/"]tmux[/URL], [URL="http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/"]GNU Screen[/URL] all work as one, but [URL=http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/]dvtm[/url] is the closes to a tiling WM in the TTY you're going to get. Detaching, normally included in Screen and tmux, is done separately through [url=http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/abduco/]abduco[/url] or [URL="http://dtach.sourceforge.net/"]dtach[/URL]. If you're like me, you pretty much stick in tty1 and only `startx` only when needed.

[editline]To be honest, I don't know if you'd be the greatest person to answer this to. You use C++, you use GNOME, you make a program with eval as a default use case, and you use the Numix GTK theme.[/editline]

Sure, GNOME's nice for a complicated desktop, but the underlying cancerd is enough of a turnoff. Some people just have different preferences in how to control their desktop, whether they want to configure it through the shell, to go along with a certain protocol, to have their WM stay out of the way and eg. do panels separetely, or to be part of the cool kids. :words:

[editline]e[/editline]

[B]As an addendum, [/B]offsetting your monitors and changing GTK theme is done through external programs by using [URL="http://christian.amsuess.com/tools/arandr/"]ARandR[/URL] and lxappearance, respectively. Sticking around ricing or otherwise minimal WM communities would be able to help answer questions on getting around without fancy doohickeys KDE, GNOME, and other assorted cancers provice. It's "unintuitive" because it's meant for the more advanced user who knows what they're doing, what they need, and how to chain them together.

Crunchbang, back when it was active, is an example of a DE-like WM setup, using Openbox for the WM, tint2 for the panel, conky for desktop fanciness, and maybe compton for the compositor. You could swap in Openbox for anything else (twm, vtwm, any other *box, etc.).

[Liam]

[img]http://gyazo.com/a286087d35c0ca99d38e6aa9f45200ce.png[/img]

i feel like i might be about to meet an alternate version of myself that has a pizza goitre and still uses livejournal

[lavacano]

I used Slackware once, I think it was a catalyst in getting me to switch to Gentoo

I couldn't find a package manager, and I was stuck building things (though it was easy as running "./SLACKBUILD" iirc), and a lot of the time I was stuck thinking "y'know, I don't mind all this compiling but it'd be nice if I had a package manager to handle deps for me". Some of that may have been my own incompetence (and my memory is messing with me at the moment so I could be saying things that disagree with my actual experience), but still.

[humpalump]

Hey Facepunch,

I'm running Mint on my main machine. It has a Intel/nvidia hybrid GPU configuration.

I installed the most recent nvidia drivers. Now, after the initial splash screen, my laptop screen shuts off and the system hangs.

How can I remove the nvidia drivers? Is there any way to fix this?

Thanks!

[initrd]

[URL="https://www.kernel.org/"]https://www.kernel.org/[/URL]

[URL="https://www.gentoo.org/"]https://www.gentoo.org/[/URL]

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=humpalump;47432102]Hey Facepunch,

I'm running Mint on my main machine. It has a Intel/nvidia hybrid GPU configuration.

I installed the most recent nvidia drivers. Now, after the initial splash screen, my laptop screen shuts off and the system hangs.

How can I remove the nvidia drivers? Is there any way to fix this?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Drop to terminal and run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"

Restart your display manager (or just "sudo reboot")

[editline]31st March 2015[/editline]

iirc that will make it run the nVidia GPU the whole time but I also think that Optimus support is still hellishly broken in Linux so you're probably up shit creek

[Levelog]

Yep, last I checked Optimus support as god awful.

[DrTaxi]

[QUOTE=initrd;47434171][URL="https://www.kernel.org/"]https://www.kernel.org/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Rant about Linux being ableist in 3..2..1..

[ipha]

My backup script for /root fails when run on Monday at 4AM, but the same script for /home runs successfully every day at 3AM. Running the /root script manually always works...

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=IpHa;47447107]My backup script for /root fails when run on Monday at 4AM, but the same script for /home runs successfully every day at 3AM. Running the /root script manually always works...[/QUOTE]

Do you use cron to run it?

[ipha]

[QUOTE=esalaka;47447167]Do you use cron to run it?[/QUOTE]

systemd timers. The script runs at the right time and sometimes it works.

Mar 09 04:00:06 ginger incbak-root[10112]: Doing incremental backup from root_2015-03-02_04:00:11 to root_2015-03-09_04:00:05
Mar 09 04:00:06 ginger incbak-root[10112]: Create a readonly snapshot of '/var/btrfs/root' in '/var/btrfs/root_2015-03-09_04:00:05'
Mar 09 04:00:06 ginger incbak-root[10112]: At subvol /var/btrfs/root_2015-03-09_04:00:05
Mar 09 04:00:39 ginger incbak-root[10112]: At snapshot root_2015-03-09_04:00:05
Mar 09 04:00:39 ginger incbak-root[10112]: Send complete. Deleting root_2015-03-02_04:00:11 from SSD.
Mar 09 04:00:39 ginger incbak-root[10112]: Delete subvolume (no-commit): '/var/btrfs/root_2015-03-02_04:00:11'

Mar 30 04:00:20 ginger incbak-root[19680]: Doing incremental backup from root_2015-03-09_04:00:05 to root_2015-03-30_04:00:19
Mar 30 04:00:20 ginger incbak-root[19680]: ERROR: error accessing '/var/btrfs/root'
Mar 30 04:00:20 ginger incbak-root[19680]: ERROR: unable to resolve /var/btrfs/root_2015-03-30_04:00:19
Mar 30 04:00:20 ginger incbak-root[19680]: Snapshot made but root_2015-03-30_04:00:19 failed to transfer. ABORTING

[esalaka]

How is the filesystem mounted?

[editline]3rd April 2015[/editline]

Additionally, why is it at /var/btrfs/root

[ipha]

[QUOTE=esalaka;47447206]How is the filesystem mounted?

[editline]3rd April 2015[/editline]

Additionally, why is it at /var/btrfs/root[/QUOTE]

One btrfs filesystem with subvolumes for root and home. The 'root' btrfs volume is mounted under /var/btrfs.

LABEL=archRoot  /             btrfs  discard,subvol=root  0  0
LABEL=archRoot  /home         btrfs  discard,subvol=home  0  0
LABEL=archRoot  /var/btrfs    btrfs  discard,subvolid=0   0  0
LABEL=archRaid  /mnt/storage  btrfs  defaults             0  0

And my script

#!/bin/bash

blue='\e[0;34m'
red='\e[0;31m'
NC='\e[0m'

old_name=$(ls /var/btrfs | grep ^root | grep -v "^root$" | sort | tail -1)
new_name=$(date +root_%Y-%m-%d_%T)

if [ -z ${old_name} ]; then
        echo -e "${blue}No old snapshot detected. Bootstraping new backup ${new_name}${NC}"

        btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /var/btrfs/root /var/btrfs/${new_name}
        btrfs send /var/btrfs/${new_name} | pv | btrfs receive /mnt/storage/backup/

        if [ -d /mnt/storage/backup/${new_name} ]; then
                echo -e "${blue}Bootstrap complete. ${new_name} mirrored to storage.${NC}"
        else
                echo -e "${red}Boostrap failed! Snapshot made but ${new_name} failed to transfer. ABORTING${NC}"
        fi

elif [ -d /mnt/storage/backup/${old_name} ]; then
        echo -e "${blue}Doing incremental backup from ${old_name} to ${new_name}${NC}"

        btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /var/btrfs/root /var/btrfs/${new_name}
        btrfs send -p /var/btrfs/${old_name} /var/btrfs/${new_name} | pv | btrfs receive /mnt/storage/backup/

        if [ -d /mnt/storage/backup/${new_name} ]; then
                echo -e "${blue}Send complete. Deleting ${old_name} from SSD.${NC}"
                btrfs subvolume delete /var/btrfs/${old_name}
        else
                echo -e "${red}Snapshot made but ${new_name} failed to transfer. ABORTING${NC}"
        fi

else
        echo -e "${red}Missing ${old_name} on storage. ABORTING${NC}"
fi

The exact same script runs for /home just fine.

[josm]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/rhPH46s.png[/t]

Just finished configuring i3 today (with icons and colours, etc). I love it.

[Rayiner]

[QUOTE=josm;47456302][t]http://i.imgur.com/rhPH46s.png[/t]

Just finished configuring i3 today (with icons and colours, etc). I love it.[/QUOTE]

I see that you're using Antergos.

[URL="http://www.evolutionlinux.com/"]Evo/Lution[/URL] might be pretty handy to you.

[josm]

[QUOTE=Rayiner;47458334]I see that you're using Antergos.

[URL="http://www.evolutionlinux.com/"]Evo/Lution[/URL] might be pretty handy to you.[/QUOTE]

So what is this then? it's not plainly obviously to me. Am I missing something?

Also, I kind of made it base Arch by removing the antergos mirrorlist in /etc/pacman.d and removing the [antergos] line in /etc/pacman.conf (this won't break my system right?)

[DrTaxi]

[QUOTE=josm;47458603]So what is this then? it's not plainly obviously to me. Am I missing something?

Also, I kind of made it base Arch by removing the antergos mirrorlist in /etc/pacman.d and removing the [antergos] line in /etc/pacman.conf (this won't break my system right?)[/QUOTE]

It's Arch, your system is liable to break with every update anyway :-)

[vlad]

is there some form of global menu applet for Xfce? I tried TopMenu but it didn't work for me

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=PredGD;47458702]is there some form of global menu applet for Xfce? I tried TopMenu but it didn't work for me[/QUOTE]

What do you mean with global menu applet?

[vlad]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;47458801]What do you mean with global menu applet?[/QUOTE]

global menu as in merging the top panel and a window when in fullscreen, much like how Unity handles fullscreen programs

[editline]5th April 2015[/editline]

maximized programs is what I mean by fullscreen

[Rayiner]

[QUOTE=josm;47458603]So what is this then? it's not plainly obviously to me. Am I missing something?

Also, I kind of made it base Arch by removing the antergos mirrorlist in /etc/pacman.d and removing the [antergos] line in /etc/pacman.conf (this won't break my system right?)[/QUOTE]

It's an installer that allows you to optimize your Arch installation, yet install just essential packages. If I am not mistaken, Arch used to have this installer back then, but users didn't like it.

And who knows, I haven't used Antegros, but removing their repositories isn't that good of an idea, I might say.

Also, whenever you're trying to get rid of something, don't remove it, just comment it, especially if you're using Arch because stuff breaks often if you happen to do funky stuff with it.

[benbb]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;47458801]What do you mean with global menu applet?[/QUOTE]

Basically the Mac topbar.

[Stonecycle]

[QUOTE=PredGD;47458702]is there some form of global menu applet for Xfce? I tried TopMenu but it didn't work for me[/QUOTE]

I take back my disagree, I think there [url=http://askubuntu.com/a/588443]supposedly is a recent one[/url], now.