General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

Epson is just a fancy consumer printer brand. [del]They explicitly support linux[/del] Have functional drivers for Linux [url]http://www.epson.com/linux[/url]

Neat, they make printers too. I know them mostly from work, installing their projectors everywhere. Didn't know they made printers too

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47806353]My fist started shaking wildly on it's own when I saw this.[/QUOTE] Gave customer support a call about the Linux drivers before buying the printer. They assured me that the one I wanted to buy had proper drivers. They support it more in the sense that they have functional drivers. They seem to be working on Arch, Debian and Gentoo(pentium 2 laptop for shits and giggles) at home.

Great I installed Fedora Cloud 21 on a VPS and now 22 is out

Is it normal that my reaction seeing some sort of underpowered computer running slow is to install some kind of Linux in it? I have seen my friend's Core 2 Solo (!) laptop running Windows 7 to be unresponsive then I show them Xubuntu running in KVM with 1 core and 512 MB ram with several tabs in Firefox open and its still responsive. Why don't they sell more of those underpowered fanless laptop with Linux preinstalled? Their typical use case is for office works, which Libreoffice or Office 2007 in Wine or Google Docs can cover, or internet browsing.

[QUOTE=Abaddon-ext4;47807272]Is it normal that my reaction seeing some sort of underpowered computer running slow is to install some kind of Linux in it? I have seen my friend's Core 2 Solo (!) laptop running Windows 7 to be unresponsive then I show them Xubuntu running in KVM with 1 core and 512 MB ram with several tabs in Firefox open and its still responsive. Why don't they sell more of those underpowered fanless laptop with Linux preinstalled? Their typical use case is for office works, which Libreoffice or Office 2007 in Wine or Google Docs can cover, or internet browsing.[/QUOTE] Less money to be made?

[QUOTE=Darkwater124;47807698]Less money to be made?[/QUOTE] they could literally avoid the MS license costs entirely and then turn around and sell it for the exact same price "less money" my ass [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] it'd be a douche move but when has that stopped any corporation before

[QUOTE=lavacano;47807775]they could literally avoid the MS license costs entirely and then turn around and sell it for the exact same price "less money" my ass [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] it'd be a douche move but when has that stopped any corporation before[/QUOTE] I'd buy it, if it means that the divers work under Linux then I'll bite. Even if it ships with Ubuntu I can still rip out the drivers.

quick question, if i write a bash script to automate terminal commands in ubuntu, will it wait for the previous command to process? so if i write two commands one after the other, will the second one wait for the first one to complete what its doing until the terminal is free again?

[QUOTE=ashxu;47807866]quick question, if i write a bash script to automate terminal commands in ubuntu, will it wait for the previous command to process? so if i write two commands one after the other, will the second one wait for the first one to complete what its doing until the terminal is free again?[/QUOTE] Yes. Unless you are piping the output or telling it not to wait. [code]#!/usr/bin/env bash command1 | ps | command2 # all three commands are running, ps will show the troughput between the two commands. command3 & command4 # command 3 and 4 are running at the same time. It will wait for command 4 to finish before continuing but it won't wait for command 3.[/code]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;47807885]Yes. Unless you are piping the output or telling it not to wait. [code]#!/usr/bin/env bash command1 | ps | command2 # all three commands are running, ps will show the troughput between the two commands. command3 & command4 # command 3 and 4 are running at the same time. It will wait for command 4 to finish before continuing but it won't wait for command 3.[/code][/QUOTE] And the `&` on `command 3` is part of a really handy thing called "job control". For example, if you're trying to extract a tarball and it's taking longer than expected, the following works: [CODE] $ tar -xf sample_file.tar.gz [1]+ Stopped tar -xf sample_file.tar.gz [/CODE] For the most part, ^z (Ctrl-Z) sends a signal to stop and suspend the currently running task. To view the currently running and suspended jobs, just run `jobs`. [CODE] $ jobs [1]+ Stopped tar -xf sample_file.tar.gz [/CODE] The extraction we just started on is now paused and what if we want to resume it? There are two different commands for that: [CODE] $ fg %+ $ bg %1 [/CODE] Either of those work. The first line `fg %+` just resumes the last handled job in the foreground again. `bg %1` puts the specific job [1] to the background. This is achievable from the get go by `tar -xf sample_file.tar.gz &`. Further reading about jobs can be found on [URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_control_%28Unix%29]Wikipedia[/URL]. Best part is that this is included in POSIX shells, bash, and (m)ksh. Example comes from real-world usage when extracting pkgsrc's tarball was going to take four or five eternities. Useful for when tmux isn't in the cards.

[QUOTE=lavacano;47807775]they could literally avoid the MS license costs entirely and then turn around and sell it for the exact same price "less money" my ass [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] it'd be a douche move but when has that stopped any corporation before[/QUOTE] All those low end devices are running 8.1 with bing. 8.1 with bing is free for all those large scale OEM's, so they're really not saving anything. Plus you can include more bloat with Windows, hence more money in their pockets.

[QUOTE=lavacano;47806004]not exactly fair to use "how easy was it to set up my printer" as a benchmark for how easy Linux is, since printers are satanic[/QUOTE] I mean part of the problem was me not messing with printers at all on anything before that day. The driver for the espon was also easy I just needed find the acording package in the AUR and reboot the printer. As for the Dell... well...

[QUOTE=Abaddon-ext4;47807272]Is it normal that my reaction seeing some sort of underpowered computer running slow is to install some kind of Linux in it? I have seen my friend's Core 2 Solo (!) laptop running Windows 7 to be unresponsive then I show them Xubuntu running in KVM with 1 core and 512 MB ram with several tabs in Firefox open and its still responsive. Why don't they sell more of those underpowered fanless laptop with Linux preinstalled? Their typical use case is for office works, which Libreoffice or Office 2007 in Wine or Google Docs can cover, or internet browsing.[/QUOTE] They did that back when netbooks were a new thing.

Okay, running stock Debian Jessie AMD64 on a Thinkpad t61. I tried installing Steam from the .deb on steampowered, and that failed. So I uninstalled that, and got it with APT and enabled multiarch and grabbed the Intel 32 bit OpenGL (the mesa ones) drivers and library. I try opening it, and nothing happens except a lone Steam process appears in the System Monitor. I restarted it, and still nothing. Where should I go from here? Edit: I found that I have libGL errors where it says it cannot locate nouveau_dri.so, has a driver pointer missing, and cannot load nouveau, swrast_dri.so, and swrast. Is it confused because of multiarch?

How in the hell do you theme Qt applications? I cannot seem to find the answer anywhere.

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;47812970]Okay, running stock Debian Jessie AMD64 on a Thinkpad t61. I tried installing Steam from the .deb on steampowered, and that failed. So I uninstalled that, and got it with APT and enabled multiarch and grabbed the Intel 32 bit OpenGL (the mesa ones) drivers and library. I try opening it, and nothing happens except a lone Steam process appears in the System Monitor. I restarted it, and still nothing. Where should I go from here? Edit: I found that I have libGL errors where it says it cannot locate nouveau_dri.so, has a driver pointer missing, and cannot load nouveau, swrast_dri.so, and swrast. Is it confused because of multiarch?[/QUOTE] Have you tried installing Steam from the repo's?

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;47812970]Okay, running stock Debian Jessie AMD64 on a Thinkpad t61. I tried installing Steam from the .deb on steampowered, and that failed. So I uninstalled that, and got it with APT and enabled multiarch and grabbed the Intel 32 bit OpenGL (the mesa ones) drivers and library. I try opening it, and nothing happens except a lone Steam process appears in the System Monitor. I restarted it, and still nothing. Where should I go from here? Edit: I found that I have libGL errors where it says it cannot locate nouveau_dri.so, has a driver pointer missing, and cannot load nouveau, swrast_dri.so, and swrast. Is it confused because of multiarch?[/QUOTE] Reinstall your graphics drivers. Right now its trying to load the open source Nouveau libraries, and failing to do so. Could be any number of issues, but usually reinstalling fixes most of them If you're planning to use Steam, you should probably use the official NVIDIA drivers.

is there an easy way to find out where yaourt saves the stuff I install?

That's a pretty generic question. If you do yaourt -Ql packagename, it lists all the files provided by the package. If you install the package "pkgfile", you can do pkgfile zsh, and it'll show all packages that provide the file "zsh". You can do yaourt -Qk packagename, to verify all files provided by the package, are in fact installed.

[QUOTE=josm;47814862]How in the hell do you theme Qt applications? I cannot seem to find the answer anywhere.[/QUOTE] qtconfig or KDE's things but chances are you don't already have those on hand [editline]27th May 2015[/editline] i think it's supposed to just use your desktop settings by default though

Any clue how I boot arch linux x86_64 ISO image from the grub command line

If I use the openSUSE netinstaller and only enable the OSS repo, does this effectivley only download the original 13.2 release and not the updates for it?

[QUOTE=nikomo;47818110]That's a pretty generic question. If you do yaourt -Ql packagename, it lists all the files provided by the package. If you install the package "pkgfile", you can do pkgfile zsh, and it'll show all packages that provide the file "zsh". You can do yaourt -Qk packagename, to verify all files provided by the package, are in fact installed.[/QUOTE] yaourt -Ql is what I was thinking of, thanks!

[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;47818419]If I use the openSUSE netinstaller and only enable the OSS repo, does this effectivley only download the original 13.2 release and not the updates for it?[/QUOTE] I don't think openSUSE separates their updates into different repos, so no, it would download updates. [editline]27th May 2015[/editline] oh wait, I have /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update.repo i might be full of shit

oss repo is exactly what you get on the dvd pretty sure

Figured it out! [code]set root=(hd0,gpt1) linux /arch/boot/x86_64/vmlinuz archisobasedir=arch archisolabel=archisolabel initrd /arch/boot/intel_ucode.img initrd /arch/boot/x86_64/archiso.img boot [/code] [editline]27th May 2015[/editline] Currently backing up the hard disk /dev/mmcblk0 to an img so that if I fuck up I can recover the windows installation. dd-ing the img back into the disk to restore the windows installation should work right? [editline]28th May 2015[/editline] For some reason it's not seeing the WIFI card. Linux 4 should have support for it tho. If I run lspci all I see is the host bridge, VGA controller, USB controller, Encryption Controller (wat?), ISA bridge. No wifi card to be seen. The only network interface I seem to have is loopback. [editline]28th May 2015[/editline] It's an Asus F205TA. I've been told that it's sold internationally as the Asus X205TA.

Run lsusb, see if the WiFi card shows up there.

When I casually browsing Steam shop and found this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/b6d3WT7.png[/img] Valve why you do this to us?! Give us back that lovely penguin instead of weird steam looking thingy

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47821534]does ETS2 run under wine?[/QUOTE] No, ETS2 has native linux support.