General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48126948]What would you recommend as the MOST accessible and foolproof linux distro, I suppose something -buntu based so there's some amount of package support? I need something for grandpa and mind me, he had windows and just couldn't really handle them well (mainly keeps filling them with viruses and malware which is the main reason why linux should be somewhat better) I am fairly sure that he pretty much all he needs is a browser, skype, maybe a text editor and that's pretty much it. I will be able to do some maintenance via SSH but sadly won't be able to do much hands-on help as I will be leaving his living place in a week, we live thousand kilometers apart normally. [editline]5th July 2015[/editline] To be clear, he asked me to help him try it, this isn't me trying to force Open Software on elderly people.[/QUOTE] One of the [URL="http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=23"]Linux Mint flavors[/URL]. The XFCE one is most likely the most lightweight, and can also be configured to mimic windows a great deal without manually editing text files. But there's only one thing you can do, and that's trying them out.

[url=http://elementary.io/]Elementary[/url] is also remarkably user-friendly.

[QUOTE=Van-man;48127039]One of the [URL="http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=23"]Linux Mint flavors[/URL]. The XFCE one is most likely the most lightweight, and can also be configured to mimic windows a great deal without manually editing text files. But there's only one thing you can do, and that's trying them out.[/QUOTE] What makes Mint with XFCE desirable over Ubuntu with XFCE (Xubuntu)? I already run the later and if there was enough of a point I myself might move over.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48127575]What makes Mint with XFCE desirable over Ubuntu with XFCE (Xubuntu)? I already run the later and if there was enough of a point I myself might move over.[/QUOTE] The Mint team seems to do a extra quality check in addition to the one done by the Xubuntu team. But honestly try 'em both, but stick to the Long-Term-Release version of Xubuntu if you want stability and good support in regards to Xubuntu. Linux Mint XFCE is based on the LTS release of Xubuntu.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48126948]What would you recommend as the MOST accessible and foolproof linux distro, I suppose something -buntu based so there's some amount of package support?[/QUOTE] How about [URL="https://ubuntu-mate.org/"]Ubuntu MATE[/URL], Linux Mint MATE, or just plain Debian with MATE?

I honestly find Fedora just as easy to use as Mint, but I haven't used Mint since 16 so maybe I'm wrong now. At least with Fedora you get recent packages.

don't the red hat distros still ship with SELinux in strict mode? not exactly user friendly

[URL="https://systemdexploit.wordpress.com/"]Funny systemd related blog I found.[/URL] :v:

I don't understand that page at all. What point is it trying to make? Like, why sarcastically argue that Redhat isn't controlled by the US military?

it just read too much like the usual /g/tard tinfoil prattle to me

You stay away form my tinfoil. We all know the [url=http://empirestrikesblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tin-foil-hat.jpg]truth[/url]!

At least my Fedora install is Army Strong®

Years ago I remember hearing talk about an desktop environment that you could customize however you liked using HTML and CSS. Is this a thing now?

[QUOTE=false prophet;48143795]Years ago I remember hearing talk about an desktop environment that you could customize however you liked using HTML and CSS. Is this a thing now?[/QUOTE] GNOME 3 uses CSS and JS, but HTML? I guess maybe ChromeOS uses that for their DE? That's about as close as I can get ya.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;48150631]GNOME 3 uses CSS and JS, but HTML? I guess maybe ChromeOS uses that for their DE? That's about as close as I can get ya.[/QUOTE] Javascript usage in Gnome is minimal. Css is just used for what it's meant to be used; styling. I have yet to see HTML in gnome.

I'm heading out to Thailand for three weeks and I'm only bringing the shitty 200$ notebook. The thing is that the linux install is shit. REALLY shit at the moment and I really need to get the windows ISO back. Is there a way to download it from the vendor? Do any of you guys know anyone with the same notebook and are able to get a rip of at least the restore partition? Asus EeeBook F205TA-BING-FD018BS Not really linux related but still [editline]10th July 2015[/editline] bit of a long shot but still

Yup [editline]10th July 2015[/editline] Helpdesk is open tomorrow and they will probably yell at me for trying to install linux and write drivers for them

Downloading the windows 10 insider preview, hoping that it will install. It will probably run better then linux ever will on that machine

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;48160347]Downloading the windows 10 insider preview, hoping that it will install. It will probably run better then linux ever will on that machine[/QUOTE] Something was terribly wrong with your linux if it does. Or you were trying to run a crazy bloated KDE install.

[QUOTE=Levelog;48160373]Something was terribly wrong with your linux if it does. Or you were trying to run a crazy bloated KDE install.[/QUOTE] KDE isn't [i]that[/i] bad, most of the "omg bloat" comes from people having the whole thing installed when they don't really need it, either due to user ignorance or bad maintainers thinking the packages are all hard-dependent on each other. And user ignorance is usually (in my experience) people saying "i'll just tell my package manager to install the kde metapackage" when those generally pull in literally everything. Granted, it would make sense if a base KDE install didn't run super well, but it shouldn't perform that much worse than Windows unless something is seriously wrong. [editline]9th July 2015[/editline] I know [i]you[/i] know that, but...

[QUOTE=lavacano;48160621]KDE isn't [i]that[/i] bad, most of the "omg bloat" comes from people having the whole thing installed when they don't really need it, either due to user ignorance or bad maintainers thinking the packages are all hard-dependent on each other. And user ignorance is usually (in my experience) people saying "i'll just tell my package manager to install the kde metapackage" when those generally pull in literally everything. Granted, it would make sense if a base KDE install didn't run super well, but it shouldn't perform that much worse than Windows unless something is seriously wrong. [editline]9th July 2015[/editline] I know [i]you[/i] know that, but...[/QUOTE] I was using "crazy bloated" to describe a potential KDE install, not KDE. Like if someone put sysinfo bubbles ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE. (I've seen that)

[QUOTE=Levelog;48160373]Something was terribly wrong with your linux if it does. Or you were trying to run a crazy bloated KDE install.[/QUOTE] I'm running terminal only. The issues are; sound (writing a driver for it) battery status reading wifi; if it goes into wifi sleep mode (no data transfered for x minutes) it crashes the wifi driver and won't reconnect to anything [editline]10th July 2015[/editline] It wouldn't reconize the windows 10 disk. Tried both x64 and x86. The UEFI is weird. It's a 64 bit processor but it has 32 bit uefi.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48160621]KDE isn't [i]that[/i] bad, most of the "omg bloat" comes from people having the whole thing installed when they don't really need it, either due to user ignorance or bad maintainers thinking the packages are all hard-dependent on each other. And user ignorance is usually (in my experience) people saying "i'll just tell my package manager to install the kde metapackage" when those generally pull in literally everything. Granted, it would make sense if a base KDE install didn't run super well, but it shouldn't perform that much worse than Windows unless something is seriously wrong. [editline]9th July 2015[/editline] I know [i]you[/i] know that, but...[/QUOTE] I've no idea how resource-intensive it is, but it certainly looks and feels bloated, at least without some very specific theming.

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48160783]I've no idea how resource-intensive it is, but it certainly looks and feels bloated, at least without some very specific theming.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how something can look or feel bloated, but you are right about the default themes needing to be replaced, the same is true of pretty much every Linux DE. Fortunately, a ton of themes exist for KDE 4, and I'm actually running a KDE 4 theme in Plasma 5 and it doesn't look too bad (though I do need to make some adjustments if the author doesn't make a Plasma 5 version themselves)

Set up gnome, NetworkManager is shit and only shows wifi hotspots and won't connect to them so I still have to use the ye-olde trick of "sudo wlan-menu;ping 8.8.8.8". Gnome3 with firefox playing a video on youtube uses a max of ±800 MB ram out of the 2G and I can trim that down a lot by installing adblockers etc. [editline]10th July 2015[/editline] still no sound tho

Gnome uses quite a bit more RAM compared to XFCE.

using 630 with firefox open on gnome (not playing video) 501 with firefox closed

Debian wouldn't install. The hardware is funky as fuck and I only managed to get arch to work.

It had the bing version of windows 8 installed by default. It used 1.1GB of memory in idle. Kinda looking forward on finishing the audio drivers so I can get my first bit of code in the linux kernel.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48163129]mega1mpact what are you doing a basic install of debian with xfce and i can't even push past 450mb even with a youtube video going i am confused[/QUOTE] My Fedora with XFCE idles at around 600...