General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=coyote93;48164510]Ugh, I'm so tired of windows, and I really want to switch completely to linux.. There is only a couple of big problems.. I'm almost only on my computer when I'm gaming, and my computer aint strong enough to use wine in a good way to play the games. Also fucking nvidia optimus.. DirectX, please go open source![/QUOTE] GalliumNine is a thing, but I'm not sure if that's ever going to be for nVidia stuff. Works just fine for Radeon-based stuff though.

[QUOTE=coyote93;48164510]my computer aint strong enough to use wine in a good way to play the games. [/QUOTE] Just because WINE exists doens't mean all windows games runs well with it, or at all. If you need to run windows games, stick with Windows. Search on [URL="https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true"]WineHQ[/URL] to see how well a game runs with WINE.

Fedora GNOME Classic idles at around 1GB with three Firefox tabs

[QUOTE=Simon Belmont;48167311]Just because WINE exists doens't mean all windows games runs well with it, or at all. If you need to run windows games, stick with Windows. Search on [URL="https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true"]WineHQ[/URL] to see how well a game runs with WINE.[/QUOTE] I should also mention that you don't need a "strong" computer to run games via wine It's not an emulator, after all, it just translates calls. If your computer can run whatever game in Windows, and it's got a gold or platinum rating in the AppDB, it'll run fine in wine (especially if you use the infinitely superior wine-staging)

Wine does add a bit of translation overhead, though, or doesn't always do the most efficient job at translating. Some OpenGL drivers can be pretty meh, too.

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48168670]Wine does add a bit of translation overhead, though, or doesn't always do the most efficient job at translating.[/quote] Sure, but in my case that's negated by the reduced overhead I have from running Linux instead of Windows, and in many cases my games actually run [i]faster[/i]. [quote]Some OpenGL drivers can be pretty meh, too.[/QUOTE] It all depends on finding the best driver for your card (and not buying cards that are openly hostile to the concept of operating systems that aren't Windows). For nVidia cards, their proprietary driver is absolutely amazing.

Yeah as long as you don't go full stallman nvidia cards are the way to go.

Does anyone have a good amount of experience with FreeBSD or OpenBSD? After trying FreeBSD in a VM, I am SUPER inclined to migrate my production servers from Debian to *BSD. Does anyone have any words of wisdom? I plan to try out OpenBSD in VM as well. AFAIK it's more security oriented and, hence, has older packages. But that doesn't really matter in my situation. Although it also looks (conjecture based off of documentation) like FreeBSD's upgrade process is a lot more polished. Anyone have any comments on that? I know this is the Linux thread but I don't think there's better place to talk about BSD on FP. :v:

I got my new laptop and decided that I probably don't want to work with two partitions for Windows and Linux. I use both quite often: Windows for visual studio work and games, Linux for latex documents and other functional programming assignments. So after years of not using any kind of virtualisation, I figured my laptop is powerful enough to handle it. This is what I ended up with: [t]http://i.imgur.com/UvsUcIr.jpg[/t] What you're looking at might look confusing. That is a Windows 10 desktop, with a Windows 10 start bar, but with the Manjaro start bar, software installer and terminal. Apparently it's called "Seamless" mode, and it's supported by Xfce4. This is fucking amazing. I am astounded by this level of integration. This has probably been a functionality for years, and I'm probably very late to the party, but this is still god damn amazing.

[QUOTE=FPtje;48192761]I got my new laptop and decided that I probably don't want to work with two partitions for Windows and Linux. I use both quite often: Windows for visual studio work and games, Linux for latex documents and other functional programming assignments. So after years of not using any kind of virtualisation, I figured my laptop is powerful enough to handle it. This is what I ended up with: [t]http://i.imgur.com/UvsUcIr.jpg[/t] What you're looking at might look confusing. That is a Windows 10 desktop, with a Windows 10 start bar, but with the Manjaro start bar, software installer and terminal. Apparently it's called "Seamless" mode, and it's supported by Xfce4. This is fucking amazing. I am astounded by this level of integration. This has probably been a functionality for years, and I'm probably very late to the party, but this is still god damn amazing.[/QUOTE] Yeah, seamless mode has been a thing for some years. Used it on my laptop for some time until I realized the windows specific programs either ran fine in WINE, there were Linux alternatives, or I just didn't use them after all.

What VM program are you using? [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] Oh VirtualBox

[QUOTE=Van-man;48192779]Yeah, seamless mode has been a thing for some years. Used it on my laptop for some time until I realized the windows specific programs either ran fine in WINE, there were Linux alternatives, or I just didn't use them after all.[/QUOTE] I only recently discovered you could have Wine programs execute non-Wine programs having all my wine programs use notify-send for things is just wonderful

Found some potential OC on Reddit. Found it pretty amusing. [QUOTE]When you've used Windows your whole life, Linux feels like the first time you went in for a kiss with a girl. Your heart is beating but you're trying to remain calm. You're not sure what it will be like, you're nervous. A part of you wants to run, but your legs have stopped working. Your knee is shaking, and then you're kissing. It suddenly isn't as wonderful as you thought, nor is it any bad at all. It just is. But then you want more, and more, and a month later you're hugging and kissing and touching and thinking but you're not going all the way. Then you leave her for another girl who puts out in the ways you want.[/QUOTE]

sometimes that first one winds up being perfect for you though and then things just go to shit and you wind up finding someone even more perfect (see: how i moved from Ubuntu to Gentoo)

[QUOTE=lavacano;48205660]sometimes that first one winds up being perfect for you though and then things just go to shit and you wind up finding someone even more perfect [B](see: how i moved from Ubuntu to Gentoo)[/B][/QUOTE] I guess that's the equivalent of a BDSM relationship.

CentOS/Fedora I think is the distro I have finally settled on.

I don't think I've settled for a single distro for more than a year. Although with my current distro, it's actually coming along nicely with more than 1½ year, and still going strong!

Went from Debian to Fedora, feels good

[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;48206756]Went from Debian to Fedora, feels good[/QUOTE] I still use debian for all my ubiquiti controllers, but everything else is red hat based.

I'm curious, why does no one here use anything SLES based?

I'm too damn used to Debian, both for better or worse. If I have to try something new for daily driver, then Manjaro seems the most appealing, even though I'm still concerned about the rolling-release model. [QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;48206905]I'm curious, why does no one here use anything SLES based?[/QUOTE] SLES is somewhat like RedHat linux. A better question would be "who uses OpenSuse?"

for the record, SUSE does a lot of things I like, but unless you have a Stallman-strict policy about FOSS don't bother you can't even get MP3 support without installing a third party repo and that repo is garbage

[QUOTE]... SUSE ... is garbage[/QUOTE]

SUSE itself isn't that bad. I question its insistence on AppArmor, but SUSE's package maintainers do a good job, zypper is decent, and the idea of a centralized system config tool (YaST) is very sound. The only issue I have is if I want a program that even considers using a non-freetard license I have to include a third party repo, and that repo is a load of crap.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48205660]sometimes that first one winds up being perfect for you though and then things just go to shit and you wind up finding someone even more perfect (see: how i moved from Ubuntu to Gentoo)[/QUOTE] So I'm not the only person to start off on Ubuntu, stick around until it started going shit, and then move directly to Gentoo. I've stuck with Gentoo and Gentoo-based after that. That's not to say I haven't tried other though. Running a couple of Debian machines, a pair of CentOS, had three Arch installs but couldn't be bothered with those anymore, ran Fedora and OpenSuse when I wanted to try those, still haven't tried some of the new fun distros I've seen though. Maybe I should grab VoidLinux next, try that out.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48208504]The only issue I have is if I want a program that even considers using a non-freetard license I have to include a third party repo, and that repo is a load of crap.[/QUOTE] Doesn't Fedora have the same problem?

The only time I used a Linux distro was when I wanted to get that penguin mascot in TF2 :v: But I also used it when something got screwed up in my PC. I actually like Linux, it's something really different from Windows.

[QUOTE=Van-man;48206954]"who uses OpenSuse?"[/QUOTE] erry fucking day. it just does all the shit i want it to do.

[QUOTE=ace13;48210843]So I'm not the only person to start off on Ubuntu, stick around until it started going shit, and then move directly to Gentoo. I've stuck with Gentoo and Gentoo-based after that. That's not to say I haven't tried other though. Running a couple of Debian machines, a pair of CentOS, had three Arch installs but couldn't be bothered with those anymore, ran Fedora and OpenSuse when I wanted to try those, still haven't tried some of the new fun distros I've seen though. Maybe I should grab VoidLinux next, try that out.[/QUOTE] If you're fine with sort of bleeding edge (often more so than Arch), then Void Linux is no issue. It is also insanely lightweight. For the fun of it, I decided to fetch the xbps package manager static build, and install the busybox base-system package(s) to have a bare minimum system of 87MB. With the kernel and shit on top, it was a little less than 100MB iirc. Otherwise it probably amounts to what your usual Linux system distro takes up. Currently, my entire install is about 10GB or so with a lot of weird shit. It used to be about 15GB when I had like all kinds of DEs installed and all their stuff, but I've since decided not to fill everything with crap. The base install is probably like less than a gig.

[QUOTE=Little Donny;48212399]erry fucking day. it just does all the shit i want it to do.[/QUOTE] Well that's the beauty of Linux, you pick what fits you best then make it close to perfect for you. Suse Studio is neat, I'd wish other distro's would offer something similar.