General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;48341146]Don't worry, you can probably disable those components by now, patch a few things up, force it through a compilation and then install it so you can boot into kernel panic.[/QUOTE]

openrc is still superior, simply because it went with the "fix what's broken" approach

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=lavacano;48341943]openrc is still superior, simply because it went with the "fix what's broken" approach[/QUOTE]

I personally much prefer runit over even openrc, simply due to the simplicity of it all. I love Gentoo and Funtoo, but especially the former seems to have grown increasingly complex not only to understand but to manage as well.
Seems kind of a shame to me, given that those are probably the best source-based distributions in existence.

[ichiman94]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/AD9lpXX.jpg[/t]

Done with basic ricing.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;48341018]scrot is deprecated and unmaintained, you should use [url=https://github.com/naelstrof/maim]maim[/url] instead :). It's in the official repos with slop.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, used for screenshot :)

[QUOTE=mastersrp;48340059]Let me ask you a better question:

Why is everyone not programming in C?

Think about that for a while.[/QUOTE]

So nothing more than a holy war? /tech/ is trolling nowadays with saying systemd is a botnet but I can't find anything that could put my system at danger.

[QUOTE=nikomo;48339952]A hate for binary logs, and mental retardation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=lavacano;48340381]I don't want it taking up [b]all[/b] of my core processes (syslogger, cron, etc) and not giving me the option to replace components that fail. Last I checked, that was still the current state of systemd.[/QUOTE]

These are valid points. Systemd comes as a whole tight package with nothing to leave for legacy stuff. Binary logs is something I want to avoid when shit happens.

[Simon Belmont]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;48341018]scrot is deprecated and unmaintained, you should use [URL="https://github.com/naelstrof/maim"]maim[/URL] instead :). It's in the official repos with slop.[/QUOTE]

Thanks dude, I've been using escrotum which is a scrot fork which was better, but maim seems far superior. I've been looking this something like this!

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;48346329]I personally much prefer runit over even openrc, simply due to the simplicity of it all. I love Gentoo and Funtoo, but especially the former seems to have grown increasingly complex not only to understand but to manage as well.
Seems kind of a shame to me, given that those are probably the best source-based distributions in existence.[/QUOTE]

I've heard good things about runit, but never used it myself. What convinced you to switch?

[editline]1st August 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=ichiman94;48346889]/tech/ is trolling nowadays with saying systemd is a botnet but I can't find anything that could put my system at danger.[/QUOTE]

"Botnet" is just the new "faggot" over there

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=lavacano;48349601]I've heard good things about runit, but never used it myself. What convinced you to switch?
[/QUOTE]

Started using a distribution (read: [URL="http://voidlinux.eu/"]Void Linux[/URL]) that makes use of runit as the init system. It worked really great, still does, and is like the simplest shit to build init services for that I know of.

Some examples are:

wicd:

sv check dbus >/dev/null || exit 1
exec wicd --no-daemon

sshd:

ssh-keygen -A >/dev/null 2>&1
[ -r conf ] && . ./conf
exec /usr/bin/sshd -D $OPTS

dcron

exec crond -f 2>&1

And one I made myself, which is used by copying the template service into a service with the name of a user:

UID=`pwd -P`
UID=${UID##*/}
if [ -d "/home/${UID}/service" ]; then
  export HOME=/home/$UID
  chpst -u$UID runsvdir /home/${UID}/service
fi

Really is just the implementation of user services in one simple go, allowing you to enable it for only the users that need it, which allows special users to run specific services.

It convinced me pretty quickly.
It does require you to start processes in a non-backgrounding manner, which means that simply running "apache2" is not enough, since Apache2 will fork itself to the background (something which I believe no service should ever do).

Pid files are not required, as runit simply tracks services as immediate children.

[inaba]

[QUOTE=lavacano;48349601]"Botnet" is just the new "faggot" over there[/QUOTE]

It's faggot applied to software/hardware.
Everything is botnet nowadays

[Levelog]

Damnit, grub won't update right.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Levelog;48351971]Damnit, grub won't update right.[/QUOTE]

What's the problem?

[Levelog]

[QUOTE=lavacano;48352017]What's the problem?[/QUOTE]

I installed a distro on another partition and it doesn't show up in grub, just the old outdated list. I thought I had to do update-grub but it gives me "no command found" on Fedora. I think I can manually edit the file, but I honestly can't remember what distro I installed :v:

[editline]2nd August 2015[/editline]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/6d0LBKD.png[/t]

[sp]Shut up, terminal colors are a WIP right now[/sp]

[lavacano]

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

see if that works

(might be grub2-mkconfig)

[Lyoko2]

update-grub Is part of Debian/Ubuntu grub package. not available on other distros.

[Van-man]

Is it just me, or has [URL="http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php/catfish"]Catfish[/URL] gone down the crapper ever since they did that "minimalistic" overhaul?
I'm missing around 10% of the options I had before.

Also, suggest me a file search utility that ain't CLI, since I expect my attempt at rolling back Catfish is gonna end in tears.

[Levelog]

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;48354320]update-grub Is part of Debian/Ubuntu grub package. not available on other distros.[/QUOTE]

Well that mades sense then. This is my first non deb based.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Van-man;48354950]Is it just me, or has [URL="http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php/catfish"]Catfish[/URL] gone down the crapper ever since they did that "minimalistic" overhaul?
I'm missing around 10% of the options I had before.

Also, suggest me a file search utility that ain't CLI, since I expect my attempt at rolling back Catfish is gonna end in tears.[/QUOTE]

see if you can find an old download for Google Desktop

[editline]2nd August 2015[/editline]

wait I'm in the Linux thread that might not work

[DrTaxi]

You should have logs from the last boot somewhere (or in systemd's journal, I dunno how that works to be honest). Might wanna just read it.

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48376202]is there any reason why i can't boot 3.19-25 linux kernel but i can boot 3.19-15 just fine? is there anyway to fix an updated kernel that just suddenly downloads and just breaks[/QUOTE]

Likely due to an initramfs that wasn't regenereated. What distribution?

[Levelog]

Got my minicom box up and running with #!++. Just an USFF dell.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/ybajsnp.png[/t]

[lavacano]

Sometimes, Google results just outright piss me off.

I wanted to install ibus so I could enter Unicode characters into shit via codepoint. Yet, no matter how I Google, all it says is "you might need to stick this in your xprofile but after that just run ibus-setup and you're golden". The problem: I don't [b]have[/b] ibus-setup. And I don't know how the fuck to get it. Neither does Google apparently - the only result is I need USE="python", which I have.

What the [i]entire fucking Internet[/i] apparently neglected to understand is that there's a command line utility that I've had this whole goddamn time that would do what I need.

Jesus fucking Christ. I know Gentoo's supposed to be hard mode, but ibus isn't a thing I should have to almost reverse engineer to get to work here.

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=lavacano;48411381]Sometimes, Google results just outright piss me off.

I wanted to install ibus so I could enter Unicode characters into shit via codepoint. Yet, no matter how I Google, all it says is "you might need to stick this in your xprofile but after that just run ibus-setup and you're golden". The problem: I don't [b]have[/b] ibus-setup. And I don't know how the fuck to get it. Neither does Google apparently - the only result is I need USE="python", which I have.

What the [i]entire fucking Internet[/i] apparently neglected to understand is that there's a command line utility that I've had this whole goddamn time that would do what I need.

Jesus fucking Christ. I know Gentoo's supposed to be hard mode, but ibus isn't a thing I should have to almost reverse engineer to get to work here.[/QUOTE]

What is the name of the command line utility?

[Shotz]

-im dumb-

[tW4r]

[QUOTE=Shotz;48416008]
Also new version of temple OS
[/QUOTE]

Wait is TempleOS Linux based?

[nikomo]

No.

[initrd]

Thread should be renamed to General Linux & OS Chat.

Much better than making a thread for [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems"]every operating system[/URL].

[DrTaxi]

[URL=https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm]In other news, Emacs now has an X window manager.[/URL]

ban this sick filth

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48416425][URL="https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm"]In other news, Emacs now has an X window manager.[/URL]

ban this sick filth[/QUOTE]

I surely can't wait for Emacs/Linux

:v:

[nikomo]

I've learnt more about Arch packaging today than I wanted.

[Lenny.]

-snip-

[Zes]

I need help with WiFi on Arch. Antergos more specifically. Ever since I reinstalled Antergos on my old laptop my WiFi has been incredibly slow. Like 1995 slow. It maxes out at 13 KiB/s. Web pages still load but it takes forever.

I know the WiFi card works because it was totally fine before. I had to do some stuff manually just to get it to work last time but it was perfectly fine afterwards. I think I blacklisted all the drivers and then started wireless with "sudo modprobe b43" and it worked.

With the newest version wireless worked straight away, just with snail speed. Wired connection works as usual.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;48415133]What is the name of the command line utility?[/QUOTE]

"ibus".

This whole time, all I had to do was "ibus list-engine" then "ibus engine $ENGINE".