General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=DerpishCat;48647197]fine as ever, why wouldn't it be?[/QUOTE] Seems like you don't remember the days of Windows-only binaries and the hacks you had to do to get it working on Linux. And I'm not talking about wine, I'm talking about the JFS partition that's set-up to be case-insensitive that you'd have to have the gmod server files on. I wouldn't be surprised if that's still a problem with mods & addons with developers who's only used to working on windows.

I don't think Garry bothered to do any sort of case insensitive file access, instead taking the logic of "if it doesn't work in a case sensitive environment it's shit and you shouldn't use it" the server probably works fine outside of that though

I sometimes host a Garry's Mod DS on Linux and it seems to be as broken as the Windows version

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48644986]XFCE for life[/QUOTE] ofc, If you are in for unifinished desktop enviorment projects. Speaking of unifinished desktops. does anyone know how can I get KDE4 back in arch? I don't like the new KDE5.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;48658918]ofc, If you are in for unifinished desktop enviorment projects.[/QUOTE] What do you mean? It's one of the most usable DEs there ever has been, along with GNOME 2.x/MATE.

I need to install a Linux distro for work, to test a game out explicitly on Linux. Needs to be a Debian/Ubuntu derivative. I have a basic working familiarity with Linux I just don't keep up with it. If you had to install a Linux distro right now on a rather powerful gaming rig, what would it be? I might just stick with Mint.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48661184]I need to install a Linux distro for work, to test a game out explicitly on Linux. Needs to be a Debian/Ubuntu derivative. I have a basic working familiarity with Linux I just don't keep up with it. If you had to install a Linux distro right now on a rather powerful gaming rig, what would it be? I might just stick with Mint.[/QUOTE] Latest *buntu LTS, or Linux Mint derivative based on just that. If there's time & budget for additional testing, then on vanilla Debian stable, and maybe also latest Fedora.

Yeah, I think I've decided Linux Mint because it's the most popular Linux distro right now. Probably makes sense to get it running on the most popular one first (though I don't see that mattering terribly much).

NEXT TIME YOU INSTALL WINDOWS. ANY KIND OF WINDOWS. [U][B]UNPLUG YOUR OTHER HARD-DRIVES. [/B][/U] (had disk0,disk1 in raid0. wanted to install win7 to disk2) I Just lost RAID0 system because their Windows 7 installer gui decided to format disk0 to NT fucking FS. and continued by installing it to disk2. I lost everything now, googling now if I can recover my filesystems from disk0.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;48661642]NEXT TIME YOU INSTALL WINDOWS. ANY KIND OF WINDOWS. [U][B]UNPLUG YOUR OTHER HARD-DRIVES. [/B][/U] (had disk0,disk1 in raid0. wanted to install win7 to disk2) I Just lost RAID0 system because their Windows 7 installer gui decided to format disk0 to NT fucking FS. and continued by installing it to disk2. I lost everything now, googling now if I can recover my filesystems from disk0.[/QUOTE] I thought this was common knowledge (sidenote: I'm glad I changed my nickname ages back. :v:)

[QUOTE=Angus725;48632996]If anyone uses an AMD GPU and has driver issues, I might be able to help, but I'm not familiar with NV stuff with Linux.[/QUOTE]yo, i'm running an AMD Radeon HD7850, think you could help me out? i was running Linux Mint Cinnamon for the better part of last year/early this year and it took me ages to finally get that thing up and running with the fglrx drivers, and at the time i couldn't have even told you exactly how i finally got them working. fast-forward to now, i did a fresh Debian "Jessie" net install not 2 weeks ago and tried to get fglrx running following their wiki guide and a couple of other guides, no matter what i tried i'd always get black screen/flashy cursor at login time. at one point i ended up breaking something and started fresh again just using the open source drivers (which worked right out of the box) but my performance is definitely lacking. can you think of a reason [url=https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary]this guide[/url] wouldn't work? also jeez my post isn't being formatted at all, it keeps removing my new lines

I don't think that guide is using the latest drivers. Once you have fglrx installed, what is the driver version? (Not catalyst version, but the version that looks like: 14.502.1004-826483C-937253-xxx) Also, have you tried downloading the zip file from AMD.com 's driver section? That includs a .run file which does all the installation. (Install binaries, don't compile)

[url]http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2015-September/094286.html[/url] Mesa 11.0.0

[QUOTE=EmilioGB;48672524][url]http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2015-September/094286.html[/url] Mesa 11.0.0[/QUOTE] Using it currently. Shits great. I'm on a HD 4670 though, so I reap near none of the benefits. Speaking of this, which RX-series cards would be a great budget card to use these days?

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48661184]I need to install a Linux distro for work, to test a game out explicitly on Linux. Needs to be a Debian/Ubuntu derivative. I have a basic working familiarity with Linux I just don't keep up with it. If you had to install a Linux distro right now on a rather powerful gaming rig, what would it be? I might just stick with Mint.[/QUOTE] I'd say Ubuntu 14.04, it is what Steam supports so you'll (likely) have the largest proportion of gamers there. Additionally, 14.04 I believe is what Valve's Steam runtime is based on, that is, the libraries they ship with Steam so games work everywhere.

[QUOTE=ben1066;48673239]I'd say Ubuntu 14.04, it is what Steam supports so you'll (likely) have the largest proportion of gamers there. Additionally, 14.04 I believe is what Valve's Steam runtime is based on, that is, the libraries they ship with Steam so games work everywhere.[/QUOTE] I would agree, just support what Steam supports. Nothing more, nothing less. If you do this RIGHT, ie, use the Steam runtime libraries and don't depend on specific versions of said libraries, you should be fine. Obviously you would test on the platform you support.

i'm pretty new to this but i'm trying to install the new Mesa 11.0.0 on my Debian to see if i net any noticeable performance. i downloaded the tar.gz and extracted it, got the dependencies, then run[code]./configure; make; sudo make install[/code]in that order, and it appears to go through each step without breaking or errors, i reboot and [i]glxinfo | grep "OpenGL"[/i] still reports i'm using Mesa 10.3.2. do i have to do an additional step to enable 11.0.0? probably missing something obvious or just not understanding something

SteamOS is Debian though, is it not?

do you guys think the facepunch user agent thing will ever show what distro people are using? i mean i doubt it could happen but it would be cool.

[QUOTE=Levelog;48677237]SteamOS is Debian though, is it not?[/QUOTE] Yes, but Steam for Linux targets Ubuntu 14.04 even if their SteamOS distro is Debian, I guess they really support both. Additionally, the libraries shipped with Steam for games to run against are based on Ubuntu 14.04 or Ubuntu 12.04 (I think you get to select).

[QUOTE=Little Donny;48677312]do you guys think the facepunch user agent thing will ever show what distro people are using? i mean i doubt it could happen but it would be cool.[/QUOTE] That would require the distro to be in the user agent. As far as I know openSUSE is the only one that does that.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48677507]That would require the distro to be in the user agent. As far as I know openSUSE is the only one that does that.[/QUOTE] i just checked my useragent and it correctly says ubuntu in it.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48677507]That would require the distro to be in the user agent. As far as I know openSUSE is the only one that does that.[/QUOTE] ubuntu does too and i'm fairly sure there are others [editline]14th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;48677541]i just checked my useragent and it correctly says ubuntu in it.[/QUOTE] christ i'm slow today

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;48661642]NEXT TIME YOU INSTALL WINDOWS. ANY KIND OF WINDOWS. [U][B]UNPLUG YOUR OTHER HARD-DRIVES. [/B][/U] (had disk0,disk1 in raid0. wanted to install win7 to disk2) I Just lost RAID0 system because their Windows 7 installer gui decided to format disk0 to NT fucking FS. and continued by installing it to disk2. I lost everything now, googling now if I can recover my filesystems from disk0.[/QUOTE] "Hey look I see you've got some other partitions over here. Oh they are not NTFS? Let me fix that for you <3" - Windows installer

I may just be lucky because I installed win10 several weeks ago onto my old /home partition and the installer didn't mess up the / and /boot partitions.

I don't keep data of any consequence on my OS partitions, and I'm confident in my ability to win a lawsuit against MS if they decide to format my already-NTFS data partition without my explicit say-so. So far MS hasn't formatted any partition, probably because I click "Drive options (Advanced)" every time I run through the installer and explicitly format the target partition. However, I'm prepared in case it does happen.

I don't lose data to any MS OS, but that's mainly due to the fact that I could never install it in a non-virtualized environment, for fear of being unable to drop out to my beloved Linux shell.

[QUOTE=lavacano;48683138]I don't keep data of any consequence on my OS partitions, and I'm confident in my ability to win a lawsuit against MS if they decide to format my already-NTFS data partition without my explicit say-so. So far MS hasn't formatted any partition, probably because I click "Drive options (Advanced)" every time I run through the installer and explicitly format the target partition. However, I'm prepared in case it does happen.[/QUOTE] In my case, I did click "Drive Options (Advanced)", then double clicked an empty 60GB Drive. It just decided on it's own to use the entire 120GB SSD drive for Windows UEFI Boot Partition, and continued to install windows to the desired drive (another 60GB Drive) too. And about NTFS, I think it's one of the worst partition types, it allows fragmentation easily, Old, Primitive and still in use because of microsoft's laziness.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;48695559]In my case, I did click "Drive Options (Advanced)", then double clicked an empty 60GB Drive. It just decided on it's own to use the entire 120GB SSD drive for Windows UEFI Boot Partition, and continued to install windows to the desired drive (another 60GB Drive) too. And about NTFS, I think it's one of the worst partition types, it allows fragmentation easily, Old, Primitive and still in use because of microsoft's laziness.[/QUOTE] ReFS might be heading your way soon though. [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] Unless you stick with Windows 7.

I've already abandoned arch. Just not for me, really prefer red hat based distros.