General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

Yep, OpenVPN is piss easy to configure and works with pretty much everything that exists.

Finally upgraded my primary computer to Plasma 5! Preliminary analysis: "Wobbly, but not unstable." more importantly, the migration process is less broken than last time! It still didn't copy all of my settings over, but I'm not stuck with a bizarre Frankenstein of KDE 4 and Plasma 5 components like I got last time! seriously openSUSE how did you fuck that up

I use Kwin and it seems to be very stable and responsive. KDE allows me to set the Compositor for the desktop between Xrender, OpenGL 3.0, OpenGL 2.0. Never tried Compiz. If you have Nvidia/fglrx, they should have vsync option as well as desktop tearing preventation.

Plasma 5 feels like the most complete DE I have ever used. But sadly it seems like it's the buggiest (also isn't it still in development?). Video tearing still seems to be a thing, no matter what option I try, there just seems to be video tearing everywhere and it's really getting on my nerves. When I use the OpenGL options there is more window lag than Cinnamon :v: It's really [B]REALLY[/B] pretty though. Like unreal for Linux when windows is considered the prettiest. I would move back to Cinnamon if it also wasn't so buggy also (window centering is broken on multihead, window dragging is literally insane) but I want to see how long this Plasma 5 setup would last. Edit: Also any reason why no DE supports jumplists like on windows? It's even supported by Plank, come on :v:

[QUOTE=thatbooisaspy;49015243]Plasma 5 feels like the most complete DE I have ever used. But sadly it seems like it's the buggiest (also isn't it still in development?). Video tearing still seems to be a thing, no matter what option I try, there just seems to be video tearing everywhere and it's really getting on my nerves. When I use the OpenGL options there is more window lag than Cinnamon :v: It's really [B]REALLY[/B] pretty though. Like unreal for Linux when windows is considered the prettiest. I would move back to Cinnamon if it also wasn't so buggy also (window centering is broken on multihead, window dragging is literally insane) but I want to see how long this Plasma 5 setup would last. Edit: Also any reason why no DE supports jumplists like on windows? It's even supported by Plank, come on :v:[/QUOTE] What are jumplists? Also I'm pretty sure that a bit of compiz and emerald shit and you can get an experience that is more pleasing to the eyes than any other OS would present by default. It's slightly cheating, of course, but still.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49017609]What are jumplists? Also I'm pretty sure that a bit of compiz and emerald shit and you can get an experience that is more pleasing to the eyes than any other OS would present by default. It's slightly cheating, of course, but still.[/QUOTE] Yeah I guess, but Plasma 5 looks the prettiest out of the box :v: Also jumplists, i'm referring to these: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/ShareX/2015/10/2015-10-30_22-33-13.png[/IMG] Example of it being shown on Plank: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/9nU0lhG.png[/IMG] [URL="http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s10.html"]It's implemented by the .desktop standard, so I don't know why more people implement them.[/URL] edit: it might be supported by unity too, not sure

[QUOTE=thatbooisaspy;49018697]Yeah I guess, but Plasma 5 looks the prettiest out of the box :v: Also jumplists, i'm referring to these: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/ShareX/2015/10/2015-10-30_22-33-13.png[/IMG] Example of it being shown on Plank: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/9nU0lhG.png[/IMG] [URL="http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s10.html"]It's implemented by the .desktop standard, so I don't know why more people implement them.[/URL] edit: it might be supported by unity too, not sure[/QUOTE] Yeah, Unity supports it. Gnome does too, I [I]think[/I].

[QUOTE=thatbooisaspy;49018697]Yeah I guess, but Plasma 5 looks the prettiest out of the box :v: Also jumplists, i'm referring to these: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/ShareX/2015/10/2015-10-30_22-33-13.png[/IMG] Example of it being shown on Plank: [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/357850863/9nU0lhG.png[/IMG] [URL="http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s10.html"]It's implemented by the .desktop standard, so I don't know why more people implement them.[/URL] edit: it might be supported by unity too, not sure[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure all the major DEs support jumplists just fine. I recall GNOME 3 doing it, Unity is doing it too, so if KDE and elementaryOS' plank is doing it, then what are we missing? I mean sure, MATE and XFCE don't seem to outright support it, but that's most likely not due to avoiding the standard, but more of a feature cut in one way or another. Who knows.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49020125]I'm pretty sure all the major DEs support jumplists just fine. I recall GNOME 3 doing it, Unity is doing it too, so if KDE and elementaryOS' plank is doing it, then what are we missing? I mean sure, MATE and XFCE don't seem to outright support it, but that's most likely not due to avoiding the standard, but more of a feature cut in one way or another. Who knows.[/QUOTE] I haven't seen Cinnamon or KDE supporting it, which rattles my bones (I use both a lot). Then again, programming applets for either aren't very hard, I might give it a try.

[QUOTE=thatbooisaspy;49020774]I haven't seen Cinnamon or KDE supporting it, which rattles my bones (I use both a lot). Then again, programming applets for either aren't very hard, I might give it a try.[/QUOTE] KDE doesn't support it? I haven't used Cinnamon for the longest of times, so I wouldn't know, but the others mentioned I can guarantee support it just fine. At least, they used to when I was using it a couple years ago, and I doubt they removed that functionality for no reason. GNOME 3 is also pretty usable these days I hear, although I have yet to confirm it.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49020834]KDE doesn't support it? I haven't used Cinnamon for the longest of times, so I wouldn't know, but the others mentioned I can guarantee support it just fine. At least, they used to when I was using it a couple years ago, and I doubt they removed that functionality for no reason. GNOME 3 is also pretty usable these days I hear, although I have yet to confirm it.[/QUOTE] I've been using GNOME 3 for a long time now, haven't really had a problem with it. What is every odds problems with it anyway?

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49020834]KDE doesn't support it? I haven't used Cinnamon for the longest of times, so I wouldn't know, but the others mentioned I can guarantee support it just fine. At least, they used to when I was using it a couple years ago, and I doubt they removed that functionality for no reason. GNOME 3 is also pretty usable these days I hear, although I have yet to confirm it.[/QUOTE] KDE out of the box doesn't support it, at least with Plasma 5. I haven't used older versions of KDE in years so I can't speak for that. [QUOTE=gokiyono;49020911]I've been using GNOME 3 for a long time now, haven't really had a problem with it. What is every odds problems with it anyway?[/QUOTE] Bandwagon hate, of course.

ever since I tried GNOME 3, I haven't been able to settle with any other DE. I might wind up using Plasma or Xfce for an extended period, but in the end I always come back to GNOME. it just feels so incredibly smooth to use, and it looks great in my opinion. just wish it was more customizable

[QUOTE=gokiyono;49020911]I've been using GNOME 3 for a long time now, haven't really had a problem with it. What is every odds problems with it anyway?[/QUOTE] For me, personally, it is the lack of responsiveness I've experienced when stressing my system. I prefer a DE that allows me to hammer my computer to death, and still be responsive. Obviously, when the limits have been reached that's not really possible, but with GNOME it happend too easily. My desktop PC is also like 7 years old by now, so that probably has something to do with it too.

I've run like every DE under the sun and GNOME is pretty great. I generally always go back to XFCE, but if you need a DE that takes minimal time to set up its a really good bet. Very unique, great for a single tasking on a laptop, dynamic workspaces are fun. I installed plasma the other day and tbh I thought it was crap. KDE is just annoying, the UI gets right in your face, the borders and window titles are big, everything is slowish and gets in the way of the actual window and while the compositing is great, you have to wait to long for the animations to actually do anything.

[url]http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux[/url] Why is this entertaining? It feels like this shouldn't be.

I should start a "Twitch installs Gentoo" so I don't have to do it myself

[QUOTE=IpHa;49023366][url]http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux[/url] Why is this entertaining? It feels like this shouldn't be.[/QUOTE] Haha that's amazing they got that far, they are on the UNIX password right now so I guess that's going to take [B]HOURS[/B]. As i'm editing this they did it successfully, holy shit. [QUOTE=killerteacup;49023224]I've run like every DE under the sun and GNOME is pretty great. I generally always go back to XFCE, but if you need a DE that takes minimal time to set up its a really good bet. Very unique, great for a single tasking on a laptop, dynamic workspaces are fun. I installed plasma the other day and tbh I thought it was crap. KDE is just annoying, the UI gets right in your face, the borders and window titles are big, everything is slowish and gets in the way of the actual window and while the compositing is great, you have to wait to long for the animations to actually do anything.[/QUOTE] Luckily most of those problems are configurable (especially the animation part) under the Display settings. Not saying you should go back to plasma I just wanted to say they're there.

It amazing what a hivemind can accomplish when it a game of majority vs minority voting.

They got it installed, but can't login thanks to the login timer. :v:

they finally got past it lol, now to see where we go now.

They forgot to setup the network =P EDIT: And it broke

[QUOTE=IpHa;49023366][url]http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux[/url] Why is this entertaining? It feels like this shouldn't be.[/QUOTE] how do i vote for "Alt Shift Printscreen"

laaaaaame they killed the stream, and some bullshit google survey? gg twitchinstalls

trying to make them vote for ctrl-d when the line is blank so the terminal closes.

After using it for the past few days I can safely say boxes is nowhere near virtualbox or vmware.

So, considering I've only used Linux for ~serious~ tasks (I'm still a complete novice, though) in the past, I decided to install the latest version of Mint onto one of my drives to test the gaming capabilities. So far I've only tried CS:GO, and as far as performance goes with an i5 4690 + GTX 970 system, it's really nice, I get around the same framerate as I do when I run the Windows version (~400FPS). I have some issues, though, all of them related to the mouse. At first I had some problems with acceleration, which I disabled using "[I]xinput set-prop *inputID* *AccellprofileID* -1[/I]". While this got rid of the gameplay breaking acceleration, the mouse still feels sort of "floaty", not at all as snappy as in Windows, it's like there's still some kind of smoothing going on. My second problem has to do with actually clicking the left mouse button; it's like there's some sort of "delay timer" in place, if I, for example, tap with the AK, some clicks don't register, because I'm double-clicking "too fast" or something. There's an option for this in the Mint control panel, and it's labeled "Double-Click Timeout", but it only goes from "absolutely awful" to "kinda better". So, GNU+Linux gods, how do I solve these problems?

Deceleration might be what you're looking for. The only mouse sensitivity-related configuration I have is: xinput set-prop $n "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.2

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;49039695]So, considering I've only used Linux for ~serious~ tasks (I'm still a complete novice, though) in the past, I decided to install the latest version of Mint onto one of my drives to test the gaming capabilities. So far I've only tried CS:GO, and as far as performance goes with an i5 4690 + GTX 970 system, it's really nice, I get around the same framerate as I do when I run the Windows version (~400FPS). I have some issues, though, all of them related to the mouse. At first I had some problems with acceleration, which I disabled using "[I]xinput set-prop *inputID* *AccellprofileID* -1[/I]". While this got rid of the gameplay breaking acceleration, the mouse still feels sort of "floaty", not at all as snappy as in Windows, it's like there's still some kind of smoothing going on. My second problem has to do with actually clicking the left mouse button; it's like there's some sort of "delay timer" in place, if I, for example, tap with the AK, some clicks don't register, because I'm double-clicking "too fast" or something. There's an option for this in the Mint control panel, and it's labeled "Double-Click Timeout", but it only goes from "absolutely awful" to "kinda better". So, GNU+Linux gods, how do I solve these problems?[/QUOTE] I think the Linux port for CS GO supports raw mouse input and Google says the "technical" term for this double click timeout thing is "debounce", so look into that.