General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[url=http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987116]This thread makes me question whether desktop Linux is ever going to be the "when shit breaks it breaks [I]logically[/I]" system it's supposed to be.[/url]

its Canonical, who the fuck knows

to be fair it's [I]flash[/I] flash is a weird beast

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;49270537]to be fair it's [I]flash[/I] flash is a weird beast[/QUOTE] we're both right in a way flash breaks in weird ways, but usually it eventually makes sense. ubuntu breaks in weird ways, but eventually you can figure out what the hell canonical did. combine the two...

I tried to install nvidia drivers for Linux Mint and it fucked up the xorg config, I ended up having to uninstall the driver and reinstall xserver and xorg. Why does Nvidia make installing their drivers so frustrating? Apparently you're able to automatically generate a config with nvidia-xorgconfig but I cannot find the package in apt. I'm still presented with a black screen because the xserver isn't loading right. I'm a beginner so there is probably something I'm missing but still I really wish Nvidia would actually care about operating systems besides windows.

[QUOTE=Phycosymo;49280086]I tried to install nvidia drivers for Linux Mint and it fucked up the xorg config, I ended up having to uninstall the driver and reinstall xserver and xorg. Why does Nvidia make installing their drivers so frustrating? Apparently you're able to automatically generate a config with nvidia-xorgconfig but I cannot find the package in apt. I'm still presented with a black screen because the xserver isn't loading right. I'm a beginner so there is probably something I'm missing but still I really wish Nvidia would actually care about operating systems besides windows.[/QUOTE] You should be installing Nvidia from your Linux Mint repositories, not the Nvidia website. You shouldn't have to mess with xorg or its configuration unless you have very specific settings you want (Like if you want your primary monitor to have a different refresh rate during login or something). Most login managers and DE's should support xrandr and can set the rest of the settings outside of xorg configs. And by xrandr I mean just go to your DE's settings pane and click on display.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;49280245]You should be installing Nvidia from your Linux Mint repositories, not the Nvidia website. You shouldn't have to mess with xorg or its configuration unless you have very specific settings you want (Like if you want your primary monitor to have a different refresh rate during login or something). Most login managers and DE's should support xrandr and can set the rest of the settings outside of xorg configs. And by xrandr I mean just go to your DE's settings pane and click on display.[/QUOTE] I did install it from the repositories, and there was no refresh rate setting in the display menu which is what led me to trying to install the new drivers in the first place. I heard that the drivers automatically detect what refresh rate the monitor uses so that's what I tried doing. I suppose that there is a way to get the xconfig generated from a package? The only issue I'm facing at the moment is a black screen presumably because of a problem with X but I don't really know how to make a config from scratch.

[QUOTE=Phycosymo;49280086]I tried to install nvidia drivers for Linux Mint and it fucked up the xorg config, I ended up having to uninstall the driver and reinstall xserver and xorg. Why does Nvidia make installing their drivers so frustrating? Apparently you're able to automatically generate a config with nvidia-xorgconfig but I cannot find the package in apt. I'm still presented with a black screen because the xserver isn't loading right. I'm a beginner so there is probably something I'm missing but still I really wish Nvidia would actually care about operating systems besides windows.[/QUOTE] The command is actually called nvidia-xconfig and generally it's in the same package as the drivers themselves

So I started using the Gnome Wayland session on Fedora and surprisingly it works really good. I'm impressed with it so far.

My Arch install seems to refuse to have a graphical interface anymore which wouldn't be so entirely bad if the framebuffer wasn't slower than molasses Xorg tries and fails entirely to start with the Nvidia driver ( Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!) [I]unless[/I] I boot the system with systemd.unit = rescue.target, in which it works fine if I run startx. I have no idea what the fuck to do. I've tried reinstalling the kernel and nvidia drivers, I've ran nvidia-xconfig (Not that it's typically needed), I've ran mkinitcpio and all that shit. If someone tells me to use nouveau I'm gonna punch them over the Internet.

I said this to you in Steam already, but for public posterity: My current working theory is that something, somehow got removed from the default runlevel. Something incredibly important.

I have recently bought a laptop which has a touchscreen. It works reasonably well, however whenever I tap once it already selects a piece of text on the screen. Chromium has reasonable touch support (scrolling by swiping). Unfortunately, multitouch is where it lacks. The touchegg package is meant to fix this, however it's got a few things which don't work very well, such as window movement, resizing and others. Double tap seems to work, until I add a normal tap to act as a standard mouse click. It goes bonkers. Touchegg was last updated over a year ago, so I don't suppose it's going to receive updates any time soon. I'd maintain it myself, however I'm not very virtuous with C++. WIsh I were, though.

[QUOTE=supervoltage;49296446]I have recently bought a laptop which has a touchscreen. It works reasonably well, however whenever I tap once it already selects a piece of text on the screen. Chromium has reasonable touch support (scrolling by swiping). Unfortunately, multitouch is where it lacks. The touchegg package is meant to fix this, however it's got a few things which don't work very well, such as window movement, resizing and others. Double tap seems to work, until I add a normal tap to act as a standard mouse click. It goes bonkers. Touchegg was last updated over a year ago, so I don't suppose it's going to receive updates any time soon. I'd maintain it myself, however I'm not very virtuous with C++. WIsh I were, though.[/QUOTE] GNOME has multitouch

I just installed Gnome. Touchscreen support feels slightly more mature now. Sometimes the edge swiping stuff doesn't work, and other times it just doesn't click things. Doesn't seem to be quite there yet, but it's getting there. Also, Gnome seems to be quite slow on this laptop for some reason. Xfce works really well in comparison. I hate choosing.

In the end, I decided to revert to Xfce and enable/disable multitouch when it's required. For the multitouch toggle button, I created a second panel in XFCE which autohides at the top of the screen. To call it, I either mouse over it or press the Windows button on the display panel. While it's hidden, it leaves a 1px line which shows where it is. Hidden panel: [thumb]http://imgur.com/zHLHyQx.png[/thumb] Visible panel: [thumb]http://imgur.com/omYNQDQ.png[/thumb]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/xbKZpxd.png[/img] :speechless:

Anyone know of a way of having my system tray do a drop down like this: [t]http://cdn5.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/00_notification_area.png[/t] Since my icons are starting to build up: [t]https://i.imgur.com/FOo1FEZ.png[/t] Running latest ElementaryOS, so basically Ubuntu.

Does elementary still use GNOME? Maybe there's an extension for it, assuming they didn't decide nobody uses extensions or something stupid I know KDE does it out of the box, if that's an option

[QUOTE=lavacano;49338685]Does elementary still use GNOME? Maybe there's an extension for it, assuming they didn't decide nobody uses extensions or something stupid I know KDE does it out of the box, if that's an option[/QUOTE] I think the top bar is Wingpanel but the only extension I can find is [url=https://github.com/GGleb/indicator-systemtray-unity]Indicator Systemtray[/url] however it's only for unity.

if wingpanel isn't too integrated into whatever elementary uses, you could probably use xfce-panel or some shit instead

its a bit integrated. You can't really change up much with elementary. You'll need to run a custom desktop session. Just get the applications that have indicators to hide them if you don't use them maybe

[QUOTE=Adzter;49338489]Anyone know of a way of having my system tray do a drop down like this: [t]http://cdn5.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/00_notification_area.png[/t] Since my icons are starting to build up: [t]https://i.imgur.com/FOo1FEZ.png[/t] Running latest ElementaryOS, so basically Ubuntu.[/QUOTE] Only solution I know of is to delete the indicators completely; you'll still have power, battery etc but no system tray icons at all: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages I don't know if they changed this in later releases

Hm, that's unfortunate. I use all the icons, but not enough to warrant having them visible 24/7, having them tidied away in a drop down would be nice to keep everything neat but oh well. Thanks for the info/help however!

So I've had my first Linux problem in a long time that I couldn't figure out, and it's a real "WTF?" one: [IMG]http://s10.postimg.org/posagubc9/go_home_linux_youre_drunk.jpg[/IMG] So yeah, what should I do? there's clearly some logging utility gone bonkers.

[QUOTE=Van-man;49351757]So I've had my first Linux problem in a long time that I couldn't figure out, and it's a real "WTF?" one: [IMG]http://s10.postimg.org/posagubc9/go_home_linux_youre_drunk.jpg[/IMG] So yeah, what should I do? there's clearly some logging utility gone bonkers.[/QUOTE] So what (distro) are you running? What's in the log file?

[QUOTE=Van-man;49351757]So I've had my first Linux problem in a long time that I couldn't figure out, and it's a real "WTF?" one: [IMG]http://s10.postimg.org/posagubc9/go_home_linux_youre_drunk.jpg[/IMG] So yeah, what should I do? there's clearly some logging utility gone bonkers.[/QUOTE] [code] $ sudo -i # echo > /var/log/kern.log.syslog [/code] Then add the latter line to a crontab run every third or sixth day, depending on how often the problem is appearant. It's not a solution, but I've found that most of my problems are solved by ditching shitty systems, instead of trying to fix them only to find that the next time I upgrade it gets worse.

Those two log files even kept growing in size after the screenshot. Nuked 'em with [I]rm[/I] and they're apparently staying gone. It's a scraped down Xubuntu 14.04 with backported 4.2 series kernel, honestly first time I've experienced something as bad as this in anything *buntu (except Unity and Mir)

Turns out the problem was a combination of the 4.2 host kernel and and 4.x release of virtualbox. Whipped up a cronjob to "blank" the two logfiles at 15 minutes intervals with dd and /dev/zero until I had isolated the problem to be that I needed to upgrade virtualbox to 5.

Moved over to Linux Mint today, spent some time with my Brother setting it up, got it all working in the end. Tho I do want to update Wine and PlayonLinux, could explain some bugs I'm having. Besides that, it's pretty good, disappointing that CSS runs like garbage on Linux, but it's great that CSGO runs great (with the occasional frame drop). [editline]20th December 2015[/editline] Okay fixed CSS, it was GLXOSD, my FPS counter. Disabled and it ran nice and smooth on high.

Just migrated to Xubuntu on my laptop. Feels good to be back. Only problem i'm having (ok im having multiple problems but this one is important) is whenever I close my laptop lid and open it again, it refuses to wake. This is whats in /var/crash [code] cristian@cristian-Aspire-V5:/var/crash$ ls linux-image-4.2.0-22-generic.242079.crash linux-image-4.2.0-22-generic.242161.crash _opt_google_chrome_chrome.1000.crash _usr_bin_gmusicbrowser.1000.crash _usr_bin_xfdesktop.1000.crash _usr_lib_notepadqq_notepadqq-bin.1000.crash _usr_sbin_NetworkManager.0.crash [/code] someone tell me which logs to upload and they'll be up asap.