General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Van-man;49413878]My best guess is the driver, Running Nvidia's latest proprietary that supports that old GPU or the opensource driver?[/QUOTE] currently using nvidia's latest proprietary driver. 352.63 to be specific.

[QUOTE=PredGD;49412606]it appears that my MySQL has grown to 52GB, but I'm not able to find anything that takes that amount of space when digging. [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/1451408145.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/1451408158.png[/IMG] whats up here? [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] okay, I'm dumb. I also just realized why picture uploading isn't working, my server is full. obviously I can't upload shit then [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] anyway, my MySQL folder is at 52GB and I can't find any offending folders using du -h -d1 [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] found it, ibdata1. whats in that file?[/QUOTE] Sounds like a MySQL database data file. Check what file it is by running "file ibdata1" [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] If it is a MySQL database, then this might be of help for further troubleshooting: [url]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9620198/how-to-get-the-sizes-of-the-tables-of-a-mysql-database[/url]

[QUOTE=PredGD;49412606]it appears that my MySQL has grown to 52GB, but I'm not able to find anything that takes that amount of space when digging. [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/1451408145.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://pred.me/pics/1451408158.png[/IMG] whats up here? [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] okay, I'm dumb. I also just realized why picture uploading isn't working, my server is full. obviously I can't upload shit then [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] anyway, my MySQL folder is at 52GB and I can't find any offending folders using du -h -d1 [editline]29th December 2015[/editline] found it, ibdata1. whats in that file?[/QUOTE] I might suggest always having phpMyAdmin installed on your servers, allowing you to log in as root for MySQL exploration. Obviously you don't want everyone to access it, so you can have it running on a seperate web server if needed, it's just easier for this kind of stuff, and allows you to read what database takes up how much space, and narrow it down to tables.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;49413824]Currently running a Lubuntu install on a single core Pentium 4 3.0 ghz machine with three gigabytes of ram that has a geforce 610 gt in it, experiencing unreasonable fps issues when attempting to run Morrowind through OpenMW, as well as fps irregularities in both native linux games and wine ran games. Issues include inconsistent FPS in a game made with RPG maker VX ace. Was wondering what the culprit of the issue is, because I refuse to believe that this thing cannot flawlessly run a fucking rpgmaker game, or Morrowind, or Diablo 2.[/QUOTE] Could you post a pastebin with the output of "glxinfo" ?

[QUOTE=Anderen2;49414225]Could you post a pastebin with the output of "glxinfo" ?[/QUOTE] here it is: [url]http://pastebin.com/61WwuL9k[/url]

[QUOTE=genkaz92;49414256]here it is: [url]http://pastebin.com/61WwuL9k[/url][/QUOTE] Hmm, nothing wrong with your driver setup as far as I can see. What DE are you using, and is desktop composition turned off when you are gaming? Also, how is your system load looking?

[QUOTE=Anderen2;49414365]Hmm, nothing wrong with your driver setup as far as I can see. What DE are you using, and is desktop composition turned off when you are gaming? Also, how is your system load looking?[/QUOTE] The DE is LXDE, the system load looks completely fine in terms of consumption (all CPU, GPU, and RAM), I did check on multiple occasions, I am not sure what desktop composition is quite frankly. It does not make any sense because I remember this machine running prince of persia warrior within on a geforce 8600 gt perfectly fine, and it's a good looking complete game. Could it be the fact that unequal ram sticks are screwing something up? I recently purchased a ram stick different from the other two and inserted it in order to boost the ram amount. However one would assume that the mobo would complain if it was something significant, especially considering that it did so beforehand with different RAM. Basically my current impression is that a single core machine cannot really handle the notion of running something complicated inside of wine, which in turn results in the issues since it's not multi core. This also probably explains all of the other performance issues since most "linux" games I ran are not actually natively linux, but are rather instead just various ass backwards ways of running windows code on a non windows machine. So the current conclusion is that something a bit more modern is required. The idea of running something inside of an emulator like that must be a complicated task for a processor of this generation, with any smoothness anyway. Another possibility is that modern distros are not designed to run on a machine this old in general maybe.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;49420550][url]https://blog.docker.com/2015/12/ian-murdock/[/url] Well that's one horrible way to close what has been a rollercoaster of a year[/QUOTE] Indeed. So sad :( RIP, you brilliant man.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;49414400]The DE is LXDE, the system load looks completely fine in terms of consumption (all CPU, GPU, and RAM), I did check on multiple occasions, I am not sure what desktop composition is quite frankly. It does not make any sense because I remember this machine running prince of persia warrior within on a geforce 8600 gt perfectly fine, and it's a good looking complete game. Could it be the fact that unequal ram sticks are screwing something up? I recently purchased a ram stick different from the other two and inserted it in order to boost the ram amount. However one would assume that the mobo would complain if it was something significant, especially considering that it did so beforehand with different RAM. Basically my current impression is that a single core machine cannot really handle the notion of running something complicated inside of wine, which in turn results in the issues since it's not multi core. This also probably explains all of the other performance issues since most "linux" games I ran are not actually natively linux, but are rather instead just various ass backwards ways of running windows code on a non windows machine. So the current conclusion is that something a bit more modern is required. The idea of running something inside of an emulator like that must be a complicated task for a processor of this generation, with any smoothness anyway. Another possibility is that modern distros are not designed to run on a machine this old in general maybe.[/QUOTE] That's strange. Desktop composition is most recognized as fancy desktop effects, which may decrease the performance quite a lot depending on the method used. LXDE does not have this enabled by default afaik. RAM should not affect general FPS, low RAM performance may however add stuttering (As small freezes whenever the game waits to load resources). How does your 1, 5, 15 load average look after ~20 minutes of gaming? Could you begin a gaming session, and post the output of "uptime" after 20 minutes or so? Also, WINE does not emulate anything, it's just a thin API layer between Linux and Windows. Application performance is often not that much lower than running the program natively in Windows. By the way, when you say "fps irregularities" is that constant low FPS, periodic or up and down all the time?

Could somebody help me out with the intel graphics drivers in Xubuntu? Having a bit of trouble. On a slightly related note, even though my laptop isn't the greatest, games lag a lot more in linux over windows, Binding of Isaac Rebirth was around 5-10fps when I get 60fps in windows.

[QUOTE=Anderen2;49426569] By the way, when you say "fps irregularities" is that constant low FPS, periodic or up and down all the time?[/QUOTE] To give an rpg maker game the example, certain areas are low fps while others have a desirable fps. Morrowind is another example. The open areas were lower fps while the indoor areas were fine This was also the case with playing xash3d through wine, certain areas of the game were fine while others were lower fps, almost as if the game was maxing out the system's resources, which certainly did not seem to be the case. It is peculiar to me that this system seems to be having issues with running things that it should run perfectly (I think) So I am currently assuming that it has to do with this thing having a single core processor, and that most of this stuff was either not designed for a single core, or something else entirely. Even though it clearly shows that the CPU usage is not maxed out, the way it is handling the CPU load itself may not be sufficiently modern enough to deal with my requests. So in other words I have no clue what is happening. Another possible explanation would be shitty videocard drivers with incredibly weird underclocking issues, up to the point of not handling an rpg maker game somehow... Or that a geforce 610 gt is apparently not powerful enough of a card to do these things? and that for some reason even a base line GPU from 2015 cannot perfectly play a game from the Jurassic period? That it cannot play Xash3d at 800x600 on a CRT?

It's now 2016, the year of the Linux desktop.

Okay so I *think* I fixed my problem. ata4 was playing up in dmesg (which is my games drive) and I had it auto mount on boot with fstab. I removed that and unmounted it and everything seems to be fine so far. It's not like I need to automount my games drive anyhow.

Anyone have any experience forwarding ipv6 over openvpn? I set up my server per [url]https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/IPv6[/url] but it's not quite working. Pings from the client are making it out the the internet, but replies aren't making it back through the tunnel: client ping -> tun0 -> venet0 -> ping target ping reply -> venet0 (ends here) I have forwarding enabled for both ipv4 and ipv6.

Man the one thing I really miss from Linux is how comfy the Terminal is. For some reason its easy on the eyes compared to power shell.

[QUOTE=nikomo;49433020]It's now 2016, the year of the Linux desktop.[/QUOTE] no, not at all. people need to get their shit together and stop using and developing temporary desktop environments such as "Cinnamon", "Mate", "Deepin", "Lxde", "Xfce", "Lxqt". forking and recreating new desktop environments is not going to solve problems. The real solution is to use and develop both Gnome and KDE, which are the most mature desktop environments on the linux desktop. and abominations like "Linux Mint" have to fucking Die.

Yeah fuck that

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49454580]no, not at all. people need to get their shit together and stop using and developing temporary desktop environments such as "Cinnamon", "Mate", "Deepin", "Lxde", "Xfce", "Lxqt". forking and recreating new desktop environments is not going to solve problems. The real solution is to use and develop both Gnome and KDE, which are the most mature desktop environments on the linux desktop. and abominations like "Linux Mint" have to fucking Die.[/QUOTE] Fuck your preferences, use my DE! None of those technologies are more mature than others, and what authority do you present anyway? I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this kind of argument is not going anywhere. Yes, for Linux to succeed more, there is to be a better established platform, much like what Android or better iOS does. However, I believe that Android wins because of what you can do with it, that you can't do with anything else. Change it. Linux is not the most popular desktop system because it isn't preinstalled, old argument, still rings true. Until the day that this happens, Linux on the desktop won't happen in a major way. That's how it is, and it's how it's been for the longest of times. Anyone can say what they want about that, but I'll gladly drop GNOME 3.X for XFCE to play games on my almost 7-8 year old desktop PC.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49454580]no, not at all. people need to get their shit together and stop using and developing temporary desktop environments such as "Cinnamon", "Mate", "Deepin", "Lxde", "Xfce", "Lxqt". forking and recreating new desktop environments is not going to solve problems. The real solution is to use and develop both Gnome and KDE, which are the most mature desktop environments on the linux desktop. and abominations like "Linux Mint" have to fucking Die.[/QUOTE] I'm going to ignore the fact that you missed the joke behind that post, and point out instead that this post disqualifies you from any sort of respect around here. Drop the holier-than-thou attitude, learn what the goals of the actual projects are, [i]and get it through your damn skull that user choice is paramount to Linux as a whole and that's why all those so-called "temporary" environments exist in the first place[/i]. If you can't do that, then clearly Linux isn't the OS for you.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49454580]no, not at all. people need to get their shit together and stop using and developing temporary desktop environments such as "Cinnamon", "Mate", "Deepin", "Lxde", "Xfce", "Lxqt". forking and recreating new desktop environments is not going to solve problems. The real solution is to use and develop both Gnome and KDE, which are the most mature desktop environments on the linux desktop. and abominations like "Linux Mint" have to fucking Die.[/QUOTE] How the hell is Xfce 'temporary'? It's been around since 1996. Mate is a fork of Gnome 2, which was pretty mature as well. I do kind of agree on you with Cinnamon and Deepin, but it is all about user choice after all.

use 2wm and st beautiful mature desktop enviroment

[QUOTE=EmilioGB;49460389]use 2wm and st beautiful mature desktop enviroment[/QUOTE] Pure X11 "if it's old, that automatically makes it good, right?"

If Linux is ever to become a mainstream consumer OS, the entire community needs to back Ubuntu. That will never happen, though. Linux is an OS for enthusiasts who want freedom, not for your average user.

[QUOTE=Lurr;49461686]If Linux is ever to become a mainstream consumer OS, the entire community needs to back Ubuntu. That will never happen, though. Linux is an OS for enthusiasts who want freedom, not for your average user.[/QUOTE] Canonical can go suck a big, fat & slimy dong with the direction they've been heading the last 3 or so years.

The hell. I've had Ubuntu Gnome, Xubuntu, and Fedora on my laptop (Lenovo Y50-70), and all of them seem to let the fans spin as if it were trying to fly away (the fans are in the bottom.) Just for fun I tried installing Manjaro. And the fans are running passively. Is this the magic of Arch or some shit?

If there's any mainsteam graphical shell I want to be massively popular, it sure as hell is not Unity.

[QUOTE=Van-man;49460715]Pure X11 "if it's old, that automatically makes it good, right?"[/QUOTE] I used a minimal arch install with pure X for a while. Does that make it a mainstream OS?

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49454580]no, not at all. people need to get their shit together and stop using and developing temporary desktop environments such as "Cinnamon", "Mate", "Deepin", "Lxde", "Xfce", "Lxqt". forking and recreating new desktop environments is not going to solve problems. The real solution is to use and develop both Gnome and KDE, which are the most mature desktop environments on the linux desktop. and abominations like "Linux Mint" have to fucking Die.[/QUOTE] What a fundamental misunderstanding is displayed here

[QUOTE=Protocol7;49462184]If there's any mainsteam graphical shell I want to be massively popular, it sure as hell is not Unity.[/QUOTE] The only problem I truly have with Unity in its current state is that it uses [I]fucking [B]Compiz[/B][/I] Compiz is a buggy piece of shit at the best of times, and will randomly decide it hates your drivers and glitch the hell out. It's shit. Other than that, it's actually not too bad to use. The HUD is a really neat feature, and the amount of support for panel indicators is pretty nice. In the future, it'll be based on the same tech as Ubuntu Touch, using Mir...ugh, why? Why Mir? Why not use fucking Wayland? Having your own DE is whatever, but pushing your own display server is just plain silly and needlessly fragments things.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;49462166]The hell. I've had Ubuntu Gnome, Xubuntu, and Fedora on my laptop (Lenovo Y50-70), and all of them seem to let the fans spin as if it were trying to fly away (the fans are in the bottom.) Just for fun I tried installing Manjaro. And the fans are running passively. Is this the magic of Arch or some shit?[/QUOTE] Probably new kernel and/or utility that actually supports fan profiles and/or CPU frequency governing for your laptop.