General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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[QUOTE=Havolis;49486574]Would you guys recommend Fedora for a beginner, or should I stick to Ubuntu? I did use Ubuntu (Unity) for a bit a while ago so I have an idea of how Linux is like.[/QUOTE]
the largest difference between the distros is usually the package manager. other than that, they all function similarly. I've used Linux actively for some years now but my experience is very limited when it comes to different distros, but the little I tried Fedora was pretty different. I'm used to Debian and its derivatives as well as Arch, so I only know how to use apt-get and pacman. yum (which is Fedora's package manager) just confused me a lot.
I'm sure it's just a matter of getting used to something I didn't have the patience with since I already have a distro I feel comfortable in, no need to learn something new. the experience itself is most likely going to be 99% the same as when you've been using Ubuntu, biggest difference as said will be the package manager and that it ships with another DE which can easily be changed anyway.
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
I wouldn't say Gnome is "better" than Unity. DE's and WM's are mostly just personal preference in the end.
Edit: I'm the kind of person that changes his mind a lot. Sooo I just read about Fedora having issues with Nvidia drivers. Hmm
Fedora will be pretty much like any other gnu/linux distro, except that it comes with a different package manager, but it should have a GUI program for it so it won't be a issue. People generally recommend Linux Mint which based off Ubuntu but looks more windows like out of the box, and has all the drivers (free and propiertary) if needed, easy to get around.
Try both of them out in a virtual machine.
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
FWIW, Arch Linux is my jam.
[QUOTE=Havolis;49486574]Would you guys recommend Fedora for a beginner, or should I stick to Ubuntu? I did use Ubuntu (Unity) for a bit a while ago so I have an idea of how Linux is like.
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
Ubuntu with Gnome is my second option btw cause I heard it's better than Unity.[/QUOTE]
I started with Ubuntu some 5 years ago and moved on to Fedora (and was surprised at how stable it actually was). I gotta say I really liked Fedora the time I was using it, can't say anything about the NVIDIA drivers since it was before I PC gamed much. Though I did try on my laptop which does dual GPU with Intel and NVIDIA and it broke.
I'll have to remind myself how Windows 8+ will lock up its partition, I have to slice it up for another work partition, but for now I have to do this to make the system not run away on boot
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QZ778je.png[/img]
Fedora and CentOS is king.
I'm still silly for Xubuntu, until canonical decides it wants to fuck up the derivatives too with Mir & shits, then I'm out.
Already looking around for "contingency plans"
In my experience, the GUI package manager for Fedora never actually showed any packages, but dnf commands are similar or sometimes the same as apt-get
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
I don't even know why I went to openSUSE but it seems good so far, but its partitioning and YaST aren't exactly beginner friendly
[QUOTE=ichiman94;49486819]I'll have to remind myself how Windows 8+ will lock up its partition, I have to slice it up for another work partition, but for now I have to do this to make the system not run away on boot
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QZ778je.png[/img][/QUOTE]
In Windows:
[code]powercfg /h off[/code]
[QUOTE=ichiman94;49486819]I'll have to remind myself how Windows 8+ will lock up its partition, I have to slice it up for another work partition, but for now I have to do this to make the system not run away on boot
[img]http://i.imgur.com/QZ778je.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Can't you just add nofail to the mount options? Assuming for whatever reason disabling hibernate isn't an option
or noauto, that will stop it from trying to automount in the first place
I'm going to split the windows partition anyway to move data so the /dev/sdaX number will be different. It's just a quick hack while I sleep and not deal with windows for a while. Even the install was done in a quick dirty way as seen by the /swapfile line (even tho I have 8 gigs of ram and not run out of that).
[editline]9th January 2016[/editline]
However I didn't know about these options so thanks for the tip!
Why is it that after I resume my Arch Linux 64-bit system from hibernate the screen is disabled? Not even the backlight turns on. I can't even do anything blindly on it, as far as I've tried.
[QUOTE=supervoltage;49499895]Why is it that after I resume my Arch Linux 64-bit system from hibernate the screen is disabled? Not even the backlight turns on. I can't even do anything blindly on it, as far as I've tried.[/QUOTE]
Hibernate has been broken as fuck on any Linux system I've used.
Decided to go with Linux Mint. Liking it so far. But the fact that most of my Steam games aren't compatible with it just bugs me endlessly... Guess I have to dig out my spare HDD and install Windows on it as a backup.
[QUOTE=Havolis;49500846]Decided to go with Linux Mint. Liking it so far. But the fact that most of my Steam games aren't compatible with it just bugs me endlessly... Guess I have to dig out my spare HDD and install Windows on it as a backup.[/QUOTE]
Wine can help with some games. It's how I play AoEII:HD on this laptop.
I have a Lenovo y50-70 with dual graphics between Intel HD Graphics and an 860m.
Would it be possible to run a virtual machine with Windows using the dedicated graphics card since my Linux (Manjaro) uses the dedicated GPU?
[QUOTE=gokiyono;49513476]I have a Lenovo y50-70 with dual graphics between Intel HD Graphics and an 860m.
Would it be possible to run a virtual machine with Windows using the dedicated graphics card since my Linux (Manjaro) uses the dedicated GPU?[/QUOTE]
probably not, as (IIRC with Optimus) the dedicated GPU uses the integrated chip as a passthrough for output
shit's weird
[QUOTE=gokiyono;49513476]I have a Lenovo y50-70 with dual graphics between Intel HD Graphics and an 860m.
Would it be possible to run a virtual machine with Windows using the dedicated graphics card since my Linux (Manjaro) uses the dedicated GPU?[/QUOTE]
You mean Linux uses integrated, right?
If your CPU supports VT-d, it should be possible.
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Or not, see above.
Just try it, you should find out along the way.
Can someone please tell me if it's my fault the server runs like shit or the hosts fault?
SSH runs like shit, will timeout randomly and all I run on the server is my website and a teamspeak server which is usually empty (if not there's a max of 5 people in there every full moon).
The server is a super cheap VPS for 5$ a year, single core cpu with 128mb ram and 384mb VSwap running ubuntu_14
I can't see why it runs so slowly, and I'm connecting to the server directly via the IP so it's not going through my domain since cloudflare blocks it anyway. Here I've got top running without getting a timeout and some data from the control panel.
[t]https://my.mixtape.moe/gazwaa.png[/t]
[IMG]https://my.mixtape.moe/xnkxgi.png[/IMG]
Thanks.
Does this maybe deserve it's own thread? I don't feel it does.
Do you get consistently low performance at all times of day?
VPSes - especially cheap ones - are very often oversold and noisy neighbours will cause your performance to drop. You're unlikely to get resource shortage absolutely all the time though, and SSH really shouldn't be that much of a problem.
How's disk and network performance?
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;49513947]Do you get consistently low performance at all times of day?
VPSes - especially cheap ones - are very often oversold and noisy neighbours will cause your performance to drop. You're unlikely to get resource shortage absolutely all the time though, and SSH really shouldn't be that much of a problem.
How's disk and network performance?[/QUOTE]
Before the end of 2015 the server was perfectly fine, could use it without problems. It started getting this slow lately, maybe like one week ago. I'll check the disk and network in a minute.
[editline]12th January 2016[/editline]
Here's some more data about the server and I can't see anything that is helpful
[t]https://my.mixtape.moe/tnoidw.png[/t]
[editline]12th January 2016[/editline]
That huge outgoing spike is me doing a backup
[editline]12th January 2016[/editline]
everything seems ok, downloading a 2.5mb file to see if it gets shown seems to work, the only thing that is weird is that the drive never gets used.
[t]https://my.mixtape.moe/cxrxes.png[/t]
[editline]12th January 2016[/editline]
Ok complaining seems to fix this problem because now everything works fine now, no getting kicked out of ssh or winscp anymore. Didn't even need to restart the server which is nice.
[QUOTE=Plaster;49513975]Before the end of 2015 the server was perfectly fine, could use it without problems. It started getting this slow lately, maybe like one week ago. I'll check the disk and network in a minute.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about current disk/network usage, I was asking what you'd see in a benchmark.
Like, if you're getting packet loss, there's your problem :v:
[QUOTE]Ok complaining seems to fix this problem because now everything works fine now, no getting kicked out of ssh or winscp anymore. Didn't even need to restart the server which is nice.[/QUOTE]
If it magically goes away by itself, then that does support the idea that other guests on the same host are the problem and the only thing you can do to avoid that in the future would be to ask your host to move you to a different box (for $5 a year that's probably not happening though) or switch to something more expensive.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;49514199]I wasn't talking about current disk/network usage, I was asking what you'd see in a benchmark.
Like, if you're getting packet loss, there's your problem :v:
If it magically goes away by itself, then that does support the idea that other guests on the same host are the problem and the only thing you can do to avoid that in the future would be to ask your host to move you to a different box (for $5 a year that's probably not happening though) or switch to something more expensive.[/QUOTE]
Or use something different like scaleway, or get a KVM machine as opposed to openvz as openvz is pretty shit.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;49514651]Or use something different like scaleway, or get a KVM machine as opposed to openvz as openvz is pretty shit.[/QUOTE]
Note they said "$5 per [I]year[/I]". Nothing can beat that price, not even Scaleway. Though they are a really good option if you need low-budget (rather than no-budget) infrastructure, as pretty much the only resource that's shared (and thus lacks performance guarantees) there is bandwidth (assuming you don't pay extra) and Iliad has excellent connectivity.
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Or would be, [url=https://blog.scaleway.com/2015/11/03/scaleway-is-growing-too-fast-out-of-stock/]if they were accepting new customers at this time[/url] :v:
[QUOTE=gokiyono;49513476]I have a dual graphics between Intel HD Graphics and an [any nVidia card].
Would it be possible [...] Linux [...]?[/QUOTE]
In the future, if your question fits into this template at all, the answer 9/10 times is probably going to be somewhere in the range of "maybe, if you're lucky" to "nope, you're fucked".
Honestly, it's a miracle Linux manages to use either GPU at all.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;49514994]Note they said "$5 per [I]year[/I]". Nothing can beat that price, not even Scaleway. Though they are a really good option if you need low-budget (rather than no-budget) infrastructure, as pretty much the only resource that's shared (and thus lacks performance guarantees) there is bandwidth (assuming you don't pay extra) and Iliad has excellent connectivity.
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Or would be, [url=https://blog.scaleway.com/2015/11/03/scaleway-is-growing-too-fast-out-of-stock/]if they were accepting new customers at this time[/url] :v:[/QUOTE]
It's great, unless you need x86. I'm curious, does ARM actually cost them that little to sell as a dedicated resource VPS?
[QUOTE=lavacano;49515552]In the future, if your question fits into this template at all, the answer 9/10 times is probably going to be somewhere in the range of "maybe, if you're lucky" to "nope, you're fucked".
Honestly, it's a miracle Linux manages to use either GPU at all.[/QUOTE]
Append "mobile" to Nvidia card and it would be more accurate, IMO.
Passthrough works pretty well with an Intel host and a dedicated card.
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;49515714]It's great, unless you need x86. I'm curious, does ARM actually cost them that little to sell as a dedicated resource VPS?[/QUOTE]
They're not virtual servers. They have tons of custom-designed single-board computers. A battery farm of Raspberry Pis, basically.
Iliad's infrastructure is very impressive but honestly not that outlandish.
[QUOTE=lavacano;49515552]In the future, if your question fits into this template at all, the answer 9/10 times is probably going to be somewhere in the range of "maybe, if you're lucky" to "nope, you're fucked".
Honestly, it's a miracle Linux manages to use either GPU at all.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't. It just defaults to the Intel one since it's the one the screen is connected to, or something.
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