General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Van-man;49638622]He's definitely using it for convenience.[/QUOTE] I miss my secureCRT license. It was extremely convenient for 200+ SSH destinations to be saved and multiple to be opened at once.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49638632]I miss my secureCRT license. It was extremely convenient for 200+ SSH destinations to be saved and multiple to be opened at once.[/QUOTE] I still prefer Bitwise Tunnelier for anything serious with SSH. Putty is only used for simple SSH'ing or Telnet'ing on windows machines. Though I've been on the lookout for a alternative to Tunnelier.

[QUOTE=Van-man;49638657]I still prefer Bitwise Tunnelier for anything serious with SSH. Putty is only used for simple SSH'ing or Telnet'ing on windows machines. Though I've been on the lookout for a alternative to Tunnelier.[/QUOTE] I'd strongly suggest trying out SecureCRT if you have a lot of servers/networking equipment to manage, they've got a 30 day free trial.

I find the SSH client to be a lot more convenient personally. my VPS' all have different ports so I just type "ssh -p <first number of port>" and let it auto complete. hit enter, it finds my private key, and I'm logged in.

OpenSSH supports profiles, so you can define a profile "server", and ssh server, and it'll set port and other settings according to your configuration. Makes it nicer if you've got a server with a non-standard SSH port.

The winter hasn't been too kind to the Intel NUC running Windows 8.1 that I installed in the trunk of my car, so I bought a Raspberry Pi 2 that I'll be throwing OpenELEC on just to get me through the winter with music. GPS, OBD2 and other shit that I had on the NUC won't be worth setting up, but so far OpenELEC on the Pi 2 has been really speedy. I remember XBMC on my original, pre-ordered Raspberry Pi B with 256MB of RAM and it wasn't very enjoyable.

is there any good linux alternative for putty? putty seems dead. In windows I use mobaxterm which is awesome.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49642062]is there any good linux alternative for putty? putty seems dead. In windows I use mobaxterm which is awesome.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://alternativeto.net/software/putty/?platform=linux"]Potentially helpful[/URL]

[url=https://bashhub.com].bash_history As A Service[/url]. This sounds like a [I]GREAT[/I] idea!

[QUOTE=Levelog;49638578]Yeah what the shit Kiwi [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] I mean I guess with Putty you can save many SSH destinations for easy access.[/QUOTE] That's what ~/.ssh/config is for. There are so many (stupid) tutorials showing how to do cool SSH stuff by typing 50 arguments for ssh on the command line, but you can save all of those settings in your config so you don't have to type/remember anything. I can literally do "ssh home" and it sets up a reverse SSH tunnel with a SOCKS proxy for HTTP tunneling.

[QUOTE=Larikang;49647156]That's what ~/.ssh/config is for. There are so many (stupid) tutorials showing how to do cool SSH stuff by typing 50 arguments for ssh on the command line, but you can save all of those settings in your config so you don't have to type/remember anything. I can literally do "ssh home" and it sets up a reverse SSH tunnel with a SOCKS proxy for HTTP tunneling.[/QUOTE] But then you have to remember names. That doesn't help when you've got hundreds of ssh destinations.

How would PuTTy help with [I]hundreds[/I] of destinations? You can always just `grep -w Host .ssh/config` if you need to be reminded of the names.

[QUOTE=Larikang;49647422]How would PuTTy help with [I]hundreds[/I] of destinations? You can always just `grep -w Host .ssh/config` if you need to be reminded of the names.[/QUOTE] Putty isn't the easiest program for that. Never said it was, there are better ones out there. But they're all right there in front of you with Putty, albeit in no good organization.

[QUOTE=Larikang;49647156]That's what ~/.ssh/config is for. There are so many (stupid) tutorials showing how to do cool SSH stuff by typing 50 arguments for ssh on the command line, but you can save all of those settings in your config so you don't have to type/remember anything. I can literally do "ssh home" and it sets up a reverse SSH tunnel with a SOCKS proxy for HTTP tunneling.[/QUOTE] Sometimes you want to be a ultimate lazy fatass and manage SSH connections with a few mouseclicks.

I might buy into the meme and install gentoo on one of my desktops because I have some time to kill and will be fine if I fuck it up if I use that. Pray 4 me

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49662085]I might buy into the meme and install gentoo on one of my desktops because I have some time to kill and will be fine if I fuck it up if I use that. Pray 4 me[/QUOTE] Just do Funtoo if you're going the *too route and too cool for hipster stuff like CRUX/LFS/{open,free,net}BSD. If I ever used a source-based distro and stuck GNU/Linux, it'd be Funtoo.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49662085]I might buy into the meme and install gentoo on one of my desktops because I have some time to kill and will be fine if I fuck it up if I use that. Pray 4 me[/QUOTE] Gentoo's not actually that hard, just tedious because you're doing everything that an install wizard would do, except manually you become the wizard, in a sense

[QUOTE=lavacano;49663011]Gentoo's not actually that hard, just tedious because you're doing everything that an install wizard would do, except manually you become the wizard, in a sense[/QUOTE] I tried being the wizard while trashed once. I was not the wizard.

meanwhile i'm working on building my own Gentoo Live USB using µclibc :magic101: at the moment i just have no reasonable test environment

[QUOTE=lavacano;49663011]Gentoo's not actually that hard, just tedious because you're doing everything that an install wizard would do, except manually you become the wizard, in a sense[/QUOTE] You don't get neither the cape or hat though, and best case you'd get the wrong type of beard.

[QUOTE=Van-man;49664850]You don't get neither the cape or hat though, and best case you'd get the wrong type of beard.[/QUOTE] Any beard's the correct beard when dealing with *Nix. Except for soul patches and goatees. [editline]$ _[/editline] In fact, the neckbeard's really the only correct beard.

[QUOTE=lavacano;49663011]Gentoo's not actually that hard, just tedious because you're doing everything that an install wizard would do, except manually you become the wizard, in a sense[/QUOTE] You don't just do the install, you do the package building and build system too. But not to the point of LFS where you're the distribution.

Apparently there's pacman for Windows now? It's called [url=https://msys2.github.io/]msys2[/url]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49664968]You don't just do the install, you do the package building and build system too. But not to the point of LFS where you're the distribution.[/QUOTE] true, but that's still a single command per operation, just like any other package manager, so i didn't think to mention it [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FPtje;49665588]Apparently there's pacman for Windows now? It's called [url=https://msys2.github.io/]msys2[/url][/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/TIQQl3K.png[/img] Not sure it's ready for the public yet.

[QUOTE=lavacano;49665733]true, but that's still a single command per operation, just like any other package manager, so i didn't think to mention it [editline]3rd February 2016[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/TIQQl3K.png[/img] Not sure it's ready for the public yet.[/QUOTE] The guide says you have to restart the terminal. Probably PATH stuff.

the general stance on using Arch for a server connected to the internet seems to be a big no, but why exactly is that such a bad idea? it's a rolling distro so things -could- break, but from my experience, Arch never really breaks anyway. I've never had anything happen that have crippled my system, only minor problems that I don't think were related to Arch to begin with but rather Linux. I'm in the process of reinstalling my VPS which is currently running Debian 7. the plan was to reinstall into Debian 8, but the thought of using Arch has struck me. I feel so much more home with Arch and pacman since it's what I use on my own rig so it's tempting to put Arch on my VPS as well. the only issues I can think of that makes Arch a bad choice is that it's a rolling distro so it's prone to break (but never happens from my experience) and a potential security risk as its, well, rolling and connected to the internet. I sort of feel that it being a security risk is not that big of a deal as long as I frequently update. I'd love some second hand opinions on this.

[QUOTE=PredGD;49667825]the general stance on using Arch for a server connected to the internet seems to be a big no, but why exactly is that such a bad idea? it's a rolling distro so things -could- break, but from my experience, Arch never really breaks anyway. I've never had anything happen that have crippled my system, only minor problems that I don't think were related to Arch to begin with but rather Linux. I'm in the process of reinstalling my VPS which is currently running Debian 7. the plan was to reinstall into Debian 8, but the thought of using Arch has struck me. I feel so much more home with Arch and pacman since it's what I use on my own rig so it's tempting to put Arch on my VPS as well. the only issues I can think of that makes Arch a bad choice is that it's a rolling distro so it's prone to break (but never happens from my experience) and a potential security risk as its, well, rolling and connected to the internet. I sort of feel that it being a security risk is not that big of a deal as long as I frequently update. I'd love some second hand opinions on this.[/QUOTE] I'd just never use a rolling release as a server. Just use rock solid distros for an always on server. I generally use CentOS, but Suse and a hardened Debian work too.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49667851]I'd just never use a rolling release as a server. Just use rock solid distros for an always on server. I generally use CentOS, but Suse and a hardened Debian work too.[/QUOTE] I can see why one would not use a rolling distro for servers that have a very important task, like banking, large email provider, or other services that serves users. in my case, it's a personal VPS I use as a image, video and file host along with an OpenVPN server. in my eyes, if something breaks, there's not going to be any stress to fix it again and I can safely work at my own pace as I don't offer any services. most of the time it's also fairly easy to fix whatever is wrong so I don't mind taking a few minutes of my day to fix something. with all that said, I'm feeling very uncertain about using Arch still. there's a reason why people say Arch is a bad server distro even though I might not see those reasons. I think I'll stick with Debian [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] bam, the switch was hit. VPS is reinstalling using Debian 8. hopefully I didn't miss anything, I just copied over the contents of my web server and my virtual hosts. the rest I'll configure manually, lets hope there wasn't some config file I spent ages to get to work [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] okay that's annoying, I wasn't aware that apache and other server related stuff was pre-installed. feels like bloat

[QUOTE=PredGD;49667880]I can see why one would not use a rolling distro for servers that have a very important task, like banking, large email provider, or other services that serves users. in my case, it's a personal VPS I use as a image, video and file host along with an OpenVPN server. in my eyes, if something breaks, there's not going to be any stress to fix it again and I can safely work at my own pace as I don't offer any services. most of the time it's also fairly easy to fix whatever is wrong so I don't mind taking a few minutes of my day to fix something. with all that said, I'm feeling very uncertain about using Arch still. there's a reason why people say Arch is a bad server distro even though I might not see those reasons. I think I'll stick with Debian [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] bam, the switch was hit. VPS is reinstalling using Debian 8. hopefully I didn't miss anything, I just copied over the contents of my web server and my virtual hosts. the rest I'll configure manually, lets hope there wasn't some config file I spent ages to get to work [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] okay that's annoying, I wasn't aware that apache and other server related stuff was pre-installed. feels like bloat[/QUOTE] Yeah some VPS providers have a pre set up image with usual installs unless you specifically tell them not to. Sometimes they still do.

having some issues getting nginx up and running again. no idea what's up, but it just won't serve web pages. nginx is running and claims that all config files check out but it's not actually serving anything on port 80. error.log and access.log are all empty, no idea where to begin.