General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=PredGD;49668522]having some issues getting nginx up and running again. no idea what's up, but it just won't serve web pages. nginx is running and claims that all config files check out but it's not actually serving anything on port 80. error.log and access.log are all empty, no idea where to begin.[/QUOTE] Are you running a firewall that's default deny?

virtual host (this isn't my "primary" web server, I'm still moving shit so this joke page is all I got running right now) [url]http://pastebin.com/pYmsMwue[/url] it should work, it worked before I reinstalled. I don't see why it wouldn't work now [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=IpHa;49668540]Are you running a firewall that's default deny?[/QUOTE] it's a fresh install so I don't think so, I haven't set any sort of firewall up [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [code]iptables -L 21:49:02 Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination[/code]

Shouldn't matter, but the server is listening on ipv6 and honk.im doesn't have an AAAA record.

well, that's odd? apparently symlinking from sites-available to sites-enabled does not work. I just copied my virtual host from sites-available to sites-enabled and removed the symlink and now it works without issues.

Did you end up with some weird permissions on the symlink?

[code]ls -l 22:00:47 total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 188 Feb 3 21:55 honk.im lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Feb 3 22:00 honk-SYMLINK.im -> honk.im [/code] that appears to be the case. I've never dug into how linux file permissions work, what would I have to do to make sure the symlink works?

[QUOTE=PredGD;49668594][code]ls -l 22:00:47 total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 188 Feb 3 21:55 honk.im lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Feb 3 22:00 honk-SYMLINK.im -> honk.im [/code] that appears to be the case. I've never dug into how linux file permissions work, what would I have to do to make sure the symlink works?[/QUOTE] Haven't really played much around with Apache or Nginx on CentOS, but plenty on Ubuntu servers, since that's what we use. Nginx seems to prefer absolute paths. That is [code] ln -s /etc/nginx/sites-available/site.conf /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/site.conf [/code] Not sure if that still applies, but that was what I used to make shit work.

[QUOTE=PredGD;49667825]the general stance on using Arch for a server connected to the internet seems to be a big no, but why exactly is that such a bad idea? it's a rolling distro so things -could- break, but from my experience, Arch never really breaks anyway. I've never had anything happen that have crippled my system, only minor problems that I don't think were related to Arch to begin with but rather Linux. I'm in the process of reinstalling my VPS which is currently running Debian 7. the plan was to reinstall into Debian 8, but the thought of using Arch has struck me. I feel so much more home with Arch and pacman since it's what I use on my own rig so it's tempting to put Arch on my VPS as well. the only issues I can think of that makes Arch a bad choice is that it's a rolling distro so it's prone to break (but never happens from my experience) and a potential security risk as its, well, rolling and connected to the internet. I sort of feel that it being a security risk is not that big of a deal as long as I frequently update. I'd love some second hand opinions on this.[/QUOTE] archlinux.org is hosted on Arch, including their wiki. Arch is as stable as you make it. People prefer using Debian because stability is mostly determined by their developers, not the user.

So I'm trying linux for the first time (Steam os) as a windows user and what the fuck is going on aaaaaaaaaaa [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] how do I install a program it's tar.xz but when I hit "install" on package installer it just says "lol get fucked" [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] I came in fully knowing that it would be a totally different platform for me but it's still pretty WHOA

Extract the .tar.xz, open a command line in its directory, then usually you'd run: [code] ./configure make sudo make install [/code] [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=PredGD;49667880]okay that's annoying, I wasn't aware that apache and other server related stuff was pre-installed. feels like bloat[/QUOTE] Do they not let you upload your own images or installer ISO's?

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49669853]Haven't really played much around with Apache or Nginx on CentOS, but plenty on Ubuntu servers, since that's what we use. Nginx seems to prefer absolute paths. That is [code] ln -s /etc/nginx/sites-available/site.conf /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/site.conf [/code] Not sure if that still applies, but that was what I used to make shit work.[/QUOTE] that's what I did which unfortunately didn't work. nginx is an odd thing [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;49670398] Do they not let you upload your own images or installer ISO's?[/QUOTE] not from what I can tell. I only see their images with no option of using your own.

[QUOTE=J!NX;49670355]So I'm trying linux for the first time (Steam os) as a windows user and what the fuck is going on aaaaaaaaaaa [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] how do I install a program it's tar.xz but when I hit "install" on package installer it just says "lol get fucked" [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] I came in fully knowing that it would be a totally different platform for me but it's still pretty WHOA[/QUOTE] Um, you probably shouldn't use Steam OS as a first time Linux distro, unless you plan on staying in Big Picture. Kind of a pain in the ass to setup the desktop side. Steam OS is based on Debian, and Debian uses .deb files to install most stuff. Kinda like an .exe file. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] Last time I used Steam OS (a long ass time ago) the default repositories weren't setup, so you won't be able to download software very easily

[QUOTE=J!NX;49670355]So I'm trying linux for the first time (Steam os) as a windows user and what the fuck is going on aaaaaaaaaaa [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] how do I install a program it's tar.xz but when I hit "install" on package installer it just says "lol get fucked" [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] I came in fully knowing that it would be a totally different platform for me but it's still pretty WHOA[/QUOTE] yeah uh SteamOS is the worst possible example you can use SteamOS is pretty much a stripped down Debian distribution made only for running steam, it's pretty garbage for anything but that. You'd be better off trying Ubuntu or Mint as a first-timer.

I'm going to sound stupid for asking this but how do I properly alias something like: [code]zypper lp | awk '$7=="security" { print "zypper install -n -t patch "$3}' | bash +x[/code] I tried putting in \'s which worked when I created a test script with echo, but it doesn't work with alias.

[QUOTE=J!NX;49670355]So I'm trying linux for the first time (Steam os) as a windows user[/QUOTE] Steam OS is not actually an OS, it's just an end point for home streaming. Think of Steam OS computers as terminals, with your actual game rendering computer as the mainframe. Try Mint.

[QUOTE=lavacano;49674434]Steam OS is not actually an OS, it's just an end point for home streaming. Think of Steam OS computers as terminals, with your actual game rendering computer as the mainframe. Try Mint.[/QUOTE] What? SteamOS is just skinned Debian dude.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49674460]What? SteamOS is just skinned Debian dude.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but it's still a pretty basic experience. It's made for launching Steam Big Picture and that's about it. Sure, you can probably get it working as a normal desktop system if you wanna go through the hassle. But it's much easier just to use an Ubuntu/Mint/Debian install, as an end user.

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;49674639]Yeah, but it's still a pretty basic experience. It's made for launching Steam Big Picture and that's about it. Sure, you can probably get it working as a normal desktop system if you wanna go through the hassle. But it's much easier just to use an Ubuntu/Mint/Debian install, as an end user.[/QUOTE] You've got a terminal and web browser, what more could you want in life? :v: [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] But my point was its much more than an endpoint. Its just as designed for being a standalone gaming desktop as a streaming endpoint.

[QUOTE=lavacano;49674434]Steam OS is not actually an OS, it's just an end point for home streaming. Think of Steam OS computers as terminals, with your actual game rendering computer as the mainframe. Try Mint.[/QUOTE] ... That's Steam Link. SteamOS runs games locally just fine, that's literally what it was built for.

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;49670494]yeah uh SteamOS is the worst possible example you can use SteamOS is pretty much a stripped down Debian distribution made only for running steam, it's pretty garbage for anything but that. You'd be better off trying Ubuntu or Mint as a first-timer.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=rilez;49670470]Um, you probably shouldn't use Steam OS as a first time Linux distro, unless you plan on staying in Big Picture. Kind of a pain in the ass to setup the desktop side. Steam OS is based on Debian, and Debian uses .deb files to install most stuff. Kinda like an .exe file. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] Last time I used Steam OS (a long ass time ago) the default repositories weren't setup, so you won't be able to download software very easily[/QUOTE] wow, that blows I didn't expect it to be so horribly stripped down. Using it though it looks like it's stripped bare for sure. There's.... basically nothing on it, at all. what I EXPECTED was a linux OS with steam just shoved into it but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I guess if I wanted to set up my own 2nd OS to boot to I could probably just use mint, and then boot it to big picture. I'm not sure how steam OS is supposed to be 'easier' than windows. It feels like it's trying to fix an issue that doesn't exist. If you aren't able to operate windows you probably aren't going to be able to figure out using a steam machine to begin with. God forbid you want to go into desktop mode on your steam machine so you can install [I]anything [/I]that isn't steam related.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49674668][bYou've got a terminal and web browser, what more could you want in life? :v:[/b] [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] But my point was its much more than an endpoint. Its just as designed for being a standalone gaming desktop as a streaming endpoint.[/QUOTE] As much as this might be a joke, you're a lot more right than you think. Those two applications are really beginning to be the two foundation native applications for everything.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49676543]As much as this might be a joke, you're a lot more right than you think. Those two applications are really beginning to be the two foundation native applications for everything.[/QUOTE] I mean most of my life is either spent in a web browser or a terminal, so it wasn't really a joke.

SteamOS is meant for SteamMachines, which is a [I]living room console platform[/I]. How many consoles on the market, have a desktop mode, exactly? Not exactly their main focus.

[QUOTE=nikomo;49676746]SteamOS is meant for SteamMachines, which is a [I]living room console platform[/I]. How many consoles on the market, have a desktop mode, exactly? Not exactly their main focus.[/QUOTE] After all, SteamOS' purpose is catering to the console crowd.

It's more catering to the PC crowd that wants their quality video gaming experience, on the couch. But it serves many purposes, a better gaming experience for console players for one.

favorite GUI music player? Spotify works swell and I wouldn't mind to continue using it but I want radio functionality. Spotify lacks this (for real online radios, it only got its own radio thing that isn't real radio) so maybe I should switch to a client that is kind of all in one. all I really need is Spotify support, last.fm support and support for internet radio.

[QUOTE=PredGD;49678448]favorite GUI music player? Spotify works swell and I wouldn't mind to continue using it but I want radio functionality. Spotify lacks this (for real online radios, it only got its own radio thing that isn't real radio) so maybe I should switch to a client that is kind of all in one. all I really need is Spotify support, last.fm support and support for internet radio.[/QUOTE] Just use Spotify like normal? If you want online radio just use [URL="http://tunein.com/"]TuneIn Radio[/URL] in your browser.

[QUOTE=benbb;49678602]Just use Spotify like normal? If you want online radio just use [URL="http://tunein.com/"]TuneIn Radio[/URL] in your browser.[/QUOTE] unfortunately I don't think I can use a radio through the browser as I'll lose the ability to scrobble to last.fm. that scrobbling is pretty important to me

[QUOTE=PredGD;49678621]unfortunately I don't think I can use a radio through the browser as I'll lose the ability to scrobble to last.fm. that scrobbling is pretty important to me[/QUOTE] [url]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lastfm-scrobbler/hhinaapppaileiechjoiifaancjggfjm?hl=en[/url] Seems to support TuneIn.

[QUOTE=benbb;49678627][url]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lastfm-scrobbler/hhinaapppaileiechjoiifaancjggfjm?hl=en[/url] Seems to support TuneIn.[/QUOTE] ooh, nice, the thought of using an extension never struck me. thanks for the link! even though I might not really have much use of finding a new music client anymore I'd still love to hear what you guys prefer to use. maybe there's some gem I have yet to discover out there