General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=nutcake;49832864][t]http://j03.imgup.net/plot7bf9.png[/t] Does the dhcpcd service usually take this long to initialize or is something wrong here? I just got an SSD and wanna optimize my boot time as much as possible.[/QUOTE] You should be able to set dhcpcd as a background task with systemd. I also feel like this image is relevant. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fnWhNFj.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=nutcake;49837147]Holy hell. Any clue whats causing that? What does the full graph look like?[/QUOTE] [url]https://pred.me/pics/plot.svg[/url] network manager and upower apparently?

I can't decide what DE to use. Cinnamon is being a bitch and starts only 40% of the time, KDEs audio managment and multi monitor support is pure cancer and I was told many times that GNOME is shit. I do use only i3 on my laptop but I feel like that's a bit too barebones for a high performance desktop PC. What DE do you guys prefer and for what reason?

[QUOTE=nutcake;49839243]I can't decide what DE to use. Cinnamon is being a bitch and starts only 40% of the time, KDEs audio managment and multi monitor support is pure cancer and I was told many times that GNOME is shit. I do use only i3 on my laptop but I feel like that's a bit too barebones for a high performance desktop PC. What DE do you guys prefer and for what reason?[/QUOTE] I just use MATE. It's almost as good as GNOME 2.x. If you can get pure true GNOME 2.x then do that. Best DE ever invented, best there ever will be. Make sure it's with classic pulseaudio too.

I use GNOME 3 and I love it. definitely my favorite DE, I always come back to GNOME.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49839305]xfce because it's light on the hardware, it's simple, it features a metric fuck ton of different themes/colors and it just works with whatever setup i throw at it[/QUOTE] Yep, XFCE all the way.

I'm still a KDE guy through it all, somehow then again it's been a while since i've been DE-hopping, maybe I like something way better now

Time to play "Let's figure out why my media center/server computer (On Xubuntu) stops outputting over HDMI to my TV after sitting idle for some time and requires a reboot to do so again" It's on integrated graphics with a Haswell i3, and is set to never sleep/turn the monitor off so I can easily switch to it from the cable box. After X (never actually measured) hours of sitting idle it just stops outputting graphics for some reason. I can remote in and check the Display settings, and it shows HDMI2 (which is the output it normally uses) but instead of giving the TV's res and refresh rate those areas are just grayed out. A reboot fixes it but obviously, rebooting the media server/NAS for the house every time you want to watch a TV show in the living room is not exactly an ideal situation.

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;49841085]Time to play "Let's figure out why my media center/server computer (On Xubuntu) stops outputting over HDMI to my TV after sitting idle for some time and requires a reboot to do so again" It's on integrated graphics with a Haswell i3, and is set to never sleep/turn the monitor off so I can easily switch to it from the cable box. After X (never actually measured) hours of sitting idle it just stops outputting graphics for some reason. I can remote in and check the Display settings, and it shows HDMI2 (which is the output it normally uses) but instead of giving the TV's res and refresh rate those areas are just grayed out. A reboot fixes it but obviously, rebooting the media server/NAS for the house every time you want to watch a TV show in the living room is not exactly an ideal situation.[/QUOTE] Is the TV killing the HDMI link after a period of inactivity? I've seen TVs that can't sustain HDMI sync for after a few days before dropping video or audio. A workaround might be a cron job that changes the output resolution occasionally to reestablish sync.

[QUOTE=IpHa;49841242]Is the TV killing the HDMI link after a period of inactivity? I've seen TVs that can't sustain HDMI sync for after a few days before dropping video or audio. A workaround might be a cron job that changes the output resolution occasionally to reestablish sync.[/QUOTE] There should be no periods of inactivity as it's always outputting the (static) desktop? Even reseating the HDMI plug doesn't reestablish it, it requires a reboot [editline]29th February 2016[/editline] Also the raid array is suddenly degraded too woohooooo :saxout: [editline]29th February 2016[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/adwqizG.png[/img] Dammit linux sdb is still there I can see it in /dev/ wtf is wrong with it [editline]29th February 2016[/editline] Thank you dad for just holding down the power button to turn it off instead of using a proper ACPI shutdown, raid arrays love that :goodjob:

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49811126]I thought it'd be neat if FP had more specific Linux distros next to flag dog rather than just Linux, but according to Firefox useragents are too bare for that. Oh well.[/QUOTE] Late, but the whole "Linux" thing comes from the "X11" aspect. BSD users and whoever using X11 will be seen as "Linux" in the eyes of Flagdog.

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;49841369]Late, but the whole "Linux" thing comes from the "X11" aspect. BSD users and whoever using X11 will be seen as "Linux" in the eyes of Flagdog.[/QUOTE] It makes me wonder what will happen when Wayland finally takes over

[QUOTE=lavacano;49842108]It makes me wonder what will happen when Wayland finally takes over[/QUOTE] Like [I]that[/I] will ever happen :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;49842140]Like [I]that[/I] will ever happen :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Do you prefer MIR? :weeb:

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;49841369]Late, but the whole "Linux" thing comes from the "X11" aspect. BSD users and whoever using X11 will be seen as "Linux" in the eyes of Flagdog.[/QUOTE] What if you post from tty with lynx or something? Is that even possible in lynx?

[QUOTE=nutcake;49843112]What if you post from tty with lynx or something? Is that even possible in lynx?[/QUOTE] Lynx just shows up as lynx. I used to browse FP from it all the time at work because it looked like I was just ssh'd into a server :v:

Remind me how I used to ssh my own server from work just to pretend to look busy infornt of my manager.

speaking of Wayland, do we know when Wayland support hits the Nvidia drivers?

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;49842140]Like [I]that[/I] will ever happen :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Isn't it already an option in Fedora?

any idea how to disable mouse acceleration in Gnome on Wayland? in X11 I was able to change it via that, but I'm not sure how to do it here. also, any idea how to change the refresh rate when running Nouveau, Gnome and Wayland? xrandr was my go to but that obviously doesn't work on Wayland

[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;49843841]Isn't it already an option in Fedora?[/QUOTE] Wayland isn't a fedora feature, most likely you mean Gnome3's wayland implementation. I tested wayland + gnome3, I didn't even felt the difference. good job gnome.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49843486]Lynx just shows up as lynx. I used to browse FP from it all the time at work because it looked like I was just ssh'd into a server :v:[/QUOTE] How did you get past cloudflare/capcha using lynx? Also yep, on BSD, reports me as linux. Liking freeBSD a decent amount, running it in a VM. Surprised how quick and easy the installation was, it took about 2-3 minutes. What's a good distribution to use as a live usb to just plug into any PC to boot into? Preferebly something that can be built up with the stuff I need rather than something like puppy with tons of stuff I'll never touch.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49848865]How did you get past cloudflare/capcha using lynx? Also yep, on BSD, reports me as linux. Liking freeBSD a decent amount, running it in a VM. Surprised how quick and easy the installation was, it took about 2-3 minutes. What's a good distribution to use as a live usb to just plug into any PC to boot into? Preferebly something that can be built up with the stuff I need rather than something like puppy with tons of stuff I'll never touch.[/QUOTE] Didn't have it even show up.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;49846888]Wayland isn't a fedora feature, most likely you mean Gnome3's wayland implementation. I tested wayland + gnome3, I didn't even felt the difference. good job gnome.[/QUOTE] Gnome 3 under wayland is [I]alright[/I], Xwayland still has little issues at times, and it (wayland gnome 3) is still not quite feature complete. It just seems like there's no real push for Wayland compositors. Hawaii is basically been dead, there's a few small projects that haven't gotten very far. It's kind of disappointing.

[QUOTE=IpHa;49841242]Is the TV killing the HDMI link after a period of inactivity? I've seen TVs that can't sustain HDMI sync for after a few days before dropping video or audio. A workaround might be a cron job that changes the output resolution occasionally to reestablish sync.[/QUOTE] Looked this up, apparently HDMI handshake sync problems are and have always been a problem for always on systems I might just say fuck it and make a client-server relationship with my current HTPC and a raspi (which is kinda what I wanted to do anyway) [editline]1st March 2016[/editline] A raspi is a lot easier to restart than the whole NAS, and I can exclusively remote into the server anyway

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49848865]What's a good distribution to use as a live usb to just plug into any PC to boot into? Preferebly something that can be built up with the stuff I need rather than something like puppy with tons of stuff I'll never touch.[/QUOTE] You could use SUSE Studio to create your own Live USB images with all the packages you want

[QUOTE=Levelog;49843486]Lynx just shows up as lynx. I used to browse FP from it all the time at work because it looked like I was just ssh'd into a server :v:[/QUOTE] Yes, Lynx is working for me here. I had a few problems with Cloudflare though.

Any of you nerds tried running Linux on these cheap bay trail tablets? I can't get kms to properly initialize my fucking DSI panel. I suspected the intel driver was hanging and giving me a blackscreen or something, so I plugged a HDMI cable and.... it worked? [code]Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 32767 DSI1 connected 1280x800+0+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 800x1280 60.00*+ DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 708mm x 398mm 1280x720 60.00 + 59.65 50.00 59.94 1920x1080 60.00* 50.00 59.94 30.00 24.00 29.97 23.98 1920x1080i 60.00 50.00 59.94 1360x768 59.80 1024x768 60.00 1440x480i 59.94 800x600 60.32 720x576 50.00 720x576i 50.00 720x480 60.00 59.94 720x480i 60.00 59.94 640x480 60.00 59.94 HDMI2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [/code] Managed to snatch xrandr output and (a huge) dmesg one. Any takers?

I'm a linux beginner and I was wondering, if I use the command [code]sudo apt-get autoremove "some package"[/code] could it remove packages that other programs also depend on, not just the package I am removing? Thanks.

Oh, what I was wondering is if autoremove will remove the dependencies of the package I'm trying to remove regardless of whether or not they are required by other programs. I mean, will using "autoremove" cause any problems with other programs?