General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=lavacano;49902814]Stallman's fucking insane anyway, it's best not to take his point of view too seriously[/QUOTE] Good intentions, [I]buuut[/I] he needs his own PR crew so he doesn't seem like a rambling lunatic to the average tech illiterate.

[QUOTE=Birdman101;49903625]My unix beard grew in the day after I passed my 3rd linux class. Figured I should start posting in this thread since I babysit AIX for a living now.[/QUOTE] are you the one responsible for my AIX installs still running ksh at work

Thats hardly my fault.

[QUOTE=Birdman101;49911627]Thats hardly my fault.[/QUOTE] Yes but im going to crucify you anyway (Not being serious i know it isn't your fault)

So Ive got this little HP Mini netbook Ive been playing around with, it runs mint mate, and the atom in it is supposed to be able to go 1.6Ghz, but I can only get it up to 1.3. I'd be fine with that, but Im using it for software defined radio, and FM demodulation takes every ounce of processing power this little guy has got, and its still kinda choppy. Anyone know how I can get it up to 1.6? Can I software overclock it in linux?

Chances are, if it's not hitting max clock under load, it's thermally throttling itself. Check temperatures.

30 degrees idling, 50 under 100% load

Does anybody have any experience with Funtoo?

[QUOTE=maaatts;49924858]Does anybody have any experience with Funtoo?[/QUOTE] I don't, but I have experience with Gentoo, and as far as I can tell, Funtoo is just Gentoo after one of the devs got mad about some inane decision or another and decided to fork the project as far as I know, it still uses Portage and everything else, I think the only difference is the tree's a little slower or something I'm pretty sure I can help

[QUOTE=lavacano;49925514]I don't, but I have experience with Gentoo, and as far as I can tell, Funtoo is just Gentoo after one of the devs got mad about some inane decision or another and decided to fork the project as far as I know, it still uses Portage and everything else, I think the only difference is the tree's a little slower or something I'm pretty sure I can help[/QUOTE] The biggest difference at first was that it uses git to sync, and not rsync. but gentoo uses git now too. So there's really not many differences afaik

[QUOTE=lavacano;49925514]one of the devs got mad about some inane decision or another and decided to fork the project[/QUOTE] The bane of open source projects.

[QUOTE=FPtje;49925917]The bane of open source projects.[/QUOTE] Or the strength?

[QUOTE=FPtje;49925917]The bane of open source projects.[/QUOTE] *cough* libav *cough*

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;49929177]Or the strength?[/QUOTE] It's a double edged sword. In some situations: Project stalls because the main contributors moved on? Want to continue working on it? Just fork it! In others: [img]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png[/img]

[QUOTE=lavacano;49925514]I don't, but I have experience with Gentoo, and as far as I can tell, Funtoo is just Gentoo after one of the devs got mad about some inane decision or another and decided to fork the project as far as I know, it still uses Portage and everything else, I think the only difference is the tree's a little slower or something I'm pretty sure I can help[/QUOTE] [quote] From Wikipedia: Gentoo Linux was initially created by Daniel Robbins [...] In early 2008, Gentoo founder Daniel Robbins proposed to resolve the Gentoo Foundation problems. But he had left the project in 2004, and his offer was refused. The Funtoo project was born as an initiative to implement his vision, with aims to share innovations. [/quote] So not just one of the devs, but the actual founder. Anyway, these days there's not much functional difference between Funtoo and Gentoo. Funtoo has developed a few pretty nice projects, such as [url=http://www.funtoo.org/Keychain]Keychain[/url], which I personally use every day.

Linux 4.5: [url]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/14/50[/url]

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;49929177]Or the strength?[/QUOTE] Also, side note, I tried to post this 12 hours ago and our power went out as soon as I clicked "Post Quick Reply"

If someone interjects you but you're running alpine linux can you counter-interject? with musl and busybox you aren't very GNU anymore. Also what's the consensus on the fish shell? I've given it a try, and it seems quite nice. One concern I have is of course that I can't expect to find it on every machine I try, but that applies for zsh and bash too.

"Interjecting" is fucking idiotic and RMS is an asshole imo. If anyone did that to me I wouldn't be able to take them seriously anymore Shell-wise, I prefer vanilla zsh with a massive config file. It's faster than using a plugin like oh-my-zsh and does everything I need it to do.

I'm a bash pleb because I cannot ever be bothered to change shells and redo configurations on my installs.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49929624]If someone interjects you but you're running alpine linux can you counter-interject? with musl and busybox you aren't very GNU anymore. Also what's the consensus on the fish shell? I've given it a try, and it seems quite nice. One concern I have is of course that I can't expect to find it on every machine I try, but that applies for zsh and bash too.[/QUOTE] Bash is more likely to be on every machine you try, but zsh and fish are rare to find on servers and so on. It depends though. My experience is that fish is a lot slower than bash (although on not-a-RPi 1 you probably won't notice it with just a few shells running), and that the ideal shell is mksh (which is even more rare to find anywhere, but is more POSIX compatible). In the end, it all depends on why you want to change your shell. For the fancy ness of default configuration? Most shells can be pretty well configured. If you care about the shel scripts, just be explicit about what shell should run what shell scripts.

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;49929531]Also, side note, I tried to post this 12 hours ago and our power went out as soon as I clicked "Post Quick Reply"[/QUOTE] ah, windstorms

As long as it's not K shell

[QUOTE=Birdman101;49931205]As long as it's not K shell[/QUOTE] Korn shell? What's wrong with that?

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49929624]If someone interjects you but you're running alpine linux can you counter-interject? with musl and busybox you aren't very GNU anymore.[/QUOTE] It's still built with GCC though. However there are projects trying to get Linux building under clang [url]http://llvm.linuxfoundation.org/index.php/Main_Page[/url]

I find bash to be a hacky mess. "Improvements" like zsh just add more hacks. "Simpler" alternatives like fish just break compatibility by removing the hacks. So bash is a hacky mess, but at least its hackiness is well-studied and supported. It's too much of a standard to avoid it, I think.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;49931293]Korn shell? What's wrong with that?[/QUOTE] Actually wait no I may have confused that with another one. Ignore me.

[QUOTE=Larikang;49931601]I find bash to be a hacky mess. "Improvements" like zsh just add more hacks. "Simpler" alternatives like fish just break compatibility by removing the hacks. So bash is a hacky mess, but at least its hackiness is well-studied and supported. It's too much of a standard to avoid it, I think.[/QUOTE] What? No, you don't have to support bash at all. You can just as well just support POSIX, and it'll work a hell of a lot more places than just bash.

[QUOTE=nutcake;49929840]"Interjecting" is fucking idiotic and RMS is an asshole imo. If anyone did that to me I wouldn't be able to take them seriously anymore [/QUOTE] I don't think RMS is the author of the copy-pasta, just someone making fun of the FSF. And I dunno, I feel like RMS is doing a lot of good things, but at times can seem a bit bullheaded.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49932777]I don't think RMS is the author of the copy-pasta, just someone making fun of the FSF. And I dunno, I feel like RMS is doing a lot of good things, but at times can seem a bit bullheaded.[/QUOTE] Somebody sent it into the Going Linux podcast. [video=youtube;QlD9UBTcSW4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlD9UBTcSW4[/video]