General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49962206]Finally got it all set up now.
And best of all I can In-Home Stream games on Steam from my PC.
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Only complaint is actual 3D gaming is piss awful(a lot worse then Windows but iirc open source drivers are not amazing on performance).
Running my favorite DE XFCE.[/QUOTE]
With those specs it probably wouldn't run much even on windows. AMD open source drivers are pretty comparable to the proprietary ones. Especially for 2D stuff.
How well does the streaming work for you by the way? I tried to set it up but man the performance was terrible over LAN. Neither PC was connected to ethernet though so that might be partially why. I'd think it'd just have a bit of a delay though, and not be virtually unplayable like it was.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49962296]I certainly remember being able to run HL2 past 60 FPS on this at the highest at 1600x900 and not the 20 fps on the lowest at 1280x720 I'm getting now.
Anyway streaming works brilliantly. 1280x720 downscale, 10mbps bitrate on balanced. I can stream pretty much lag free and with out any issues on a fucking Wireless G (Ralink RT72/Netcomm NP545).[/QUOTE] I think I was on n so in theory it should have worked better. Oh well, I need to replace my laptop and desktop's adapters anyways and my router supports AC so hopefully I have glorious 1080p streaming in the future.
It's such an old card, decent chance the driver support for it, on the FOSS drivers, isn't perfect.
5000 series was good, that much I know, but 3000 series is seriously ancient.
Linux 3D performance, isn't always garbage.
Nvidia created better drivers for linux, and some cross platform games are performing better on linux.
I like that computer case, but I think raspberry pi does all you want (streaming from steam) using the moonlight project.
So I've got Mint installed, finally. As it turns out my old disk was on its last legs and attempting to format it resulted in death.
[QUOTE=Moronic;49964316]So I've got Mint installed, finally. As it turns out my old disk was on its last legs and attempting to format it resulted in death.[/QUOTE]
There's also the things with wonky S-ata cables, I though the HDD's in my file-server were crapping out, until I replaced the S-ata cables for shits & giggles and then they all worked without complaining.
[QUOTE=Van-man;49964461]There's also the things with wonky S-ata cables, I though the HDD's in my file-server were crapping out, until I replaced the S-ata cables for shits & giggles and then they all worked without complaining.[/QUOTE]
I remember when Mint refused to install if more then one hard-drive was connected.
Was old mainboard though.
Ive got a ubuntu live usb that I was using a few days ago, I installed a program on it, and now when I try it, the program is gone. do live usb sticks not save changes or something?
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49971606]Ive got a ubuntu live usb that I was using a few days ago, I installed a program on it, and now when I try it, the program is gone. do live usb sticks not save changes or something?[/QUOTE]If you're running Ubuntu directly from an USB without installing it, any programs or files you install/save will be deleted when you shut it down. If you want it to save your files and programs, you have to install it.
The entire idea of live CDs/DVDs/USBs, is that they don't save changes.
You need to set up persistance if you want that.
Do the following key combinations do anything by default or not? If they don't, I'm going to reserve them for zooming in and out (using CompizConfig Settings Manager):
alt + super
and
ctrl + alt
That depends entirely on your WM/DE.
I'm using Ubuntu 15.10. I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that. [sp]silly me[/sp] I just don't want to override any default functionality.
[QUOTE=nikomo;49971969]The entire idea of live CDs/DVDs/USBs, is that they don't save changes.
You need to set up persistance if you want that.[/QUOTE]
Or just install it to the USB stick.
Good idea to use a Filesystem that's flash friendly then, btrfs has some handy /etc/fstab parameters for just that, though F2FS seems promising for non-SSD flash memory.
[QUOTE=Van-man;49972809]Or just install it to the USB stick.
Good idea to use a Filesystem that's flash friendly then, btrfs has some handy /etc/fstab parameters for just that, though F2FS seems promising for non-SSD flash memory.[/QUOTE]
If nothing else, ext2 is fine, or ext4 without journaling. I mean data loss is pretty much guaranteed during power loss if doing this, but it's simple as shit to set up.
Shit, I attempted to install both ubuntu gnome and mint mate on my desktop, both times it boots to the live drive fine, installs fine, then I go to boot into it, and nothing but a black screen. I figured my GPU might not like it (980 ti), so I unplugged it, plugged the monitor into the onboard slot, still nothing. Any ideas?
[QUOTE=nikomo;49971969]The entire idea of live CDs/DVDs/USBs, is that they don't save changes.
You need to set up persistance if you want that.[/QUOTE]
If you make the liveUSB via Yumi you can set up persistence easily. Once upon a time I had a to-go Mint install with persistence, it was pretty helpful.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49973178]Shit, I attempted to install both ubuntu gnome and mint mate on my desktop, both times it boots to the live drive fine, installs fine, then I go to boot into it, and nothing but a black screen. I figured my GPU might not like it (980 ti), so I unplugged it, plugged the monitor into the onboard slot, still nothing. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
>980 Ti
There's your problem.
The 9xx cards require a very recent version of the driver, one which Ubuntu GNOME and Linux Mint do not provide in their repositories.
You can either download the .run file from the NVIDIA website (don't do this), or use a distribution which has the working driver in the package tree.
Personally I would use Debian and then pin the package from unstable/experimental, but I know that new versions are available in Arch Linux, Gentoo and Fedora (through rpmfusion).
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[b]Ninja Edit:[/b] If you do want to continue to use Ubuntu or Mint, you need to boot with the "nomodeset" parameter to get rid of the black screen.
Always found it odd that the "friendly" Ubuntu distros made it so fucking difficult to install up-to-date video drivers
Why shouldn't I use the .run file from nvidia?
Also how do I boot with the norunmode option?
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49977156]Why shouldn't I use the .run file from nvidia?[/QUOTE]
Because it's a pain in the ass and can easily fuck up your system
What about using the ppa from here?
[url]http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/06/install-nvidia-352-21-ubuntu-1404/[/url]
[QUOTE=rilez;49977147]Always found it odd that the "friendly" Ubuntu distros made it so fucking difficult to install up-to-date video drivers[/QUOTE]
Ironically, it's only one step "harder" than on Windows, to use it in an "unfriendly" manner.
I think I need to boot into Arch again as the last update I did was in december/january. I had pacman handling a 6 month old update perfectly thus I don't need to be worried much. Why do I even have it installed along with several virtual machines... I kinda miss it, but Solidworks pretty much requires Windows...
[QUOTE=mastersrp;49977303]Ironically, it's only one step "harder" than on Windows, to use it in an "unfriendly" manner.[/QUOTE]
Unless you want to use current or beta drivers, in which case you have to use xorg-edgers, which can break a whole lot of shit.
Driver upgrades also always used to break plymouth for me, which really doesn't matter, but might bother someone else
[editline]21st March 2016[/editline]
Ubuntu might not use xorg-edgers anymore, actually. Not sure
[editline]21st March 2016[/editline]
Yeah okay never mind, they don't use edgers anymore. Disregard post
[url]https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa[/url]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49977156]Why shouldn't I use the .run file from nvidia?[/QUOTE]
It's mentioned specifically on the "Don't Break Debian" article. [url]https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_use_GPU_manufacturer_install_scripts[/url]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49977156]Also how do I boot with the norunmode option?[/QUOTE]
In GRUB, highlight your main entry (usually the one at the top) and press E.
Using the arrow keys, find the line that begins with linux (or linux16, depending on distro).
You need to put "nomodeset" on the end of the line.
Example:
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# before
linux /vmlinuz-4.5.0-gentoo ro single
# after
linux /vmlinuz-4.5.0-gentoo ro single nomodeset
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After, boot with Ctrl+X and then you should be able to at least go into text mode to install drivers.
Nvidia supports Wayland now, cool
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/100577/en-us[/url]
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Added initial support for Direct Rendering Manager Kernel Modesetting (DRM KMS). See the DRM KMS section of the README for details.
Added a new kernel module, nvidia-drm.ko, which registers as a DRM driver with both PRIME and DRM KMS support.
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Aww fucking yiss
what does this mean?
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49983185]what does this mean?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_mode_setting[/url]
tl;dr the official Nvidia driver now has tighter integration with the Linux kernel, which means less dependence on X and thus better performance
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