General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

Yea standard Nautilus with Numix Theme.

any clue why I'm unable to get internet in the arch install iso? I wiped my drive some time ago so figured I'd put arch back on it now, but I'm having issues with internet access. lspci reports the ethernet controller and dmesg confirms that its driver is loaded, yet there's no internet. usually I'd just do "systemctl enable dhcpcd" and it'd know what to do, but apparently that's not the case this time. the network interface is up and running, both ip link and ifconfig reports so. I gave systemd-networkd a try too, which didn't work either. I'm not sure how to approach this problem now, any ideas? it worked fine before and I haven't made any hardware changes

Does route -n show a proper route? Can you ping the gateway?

[QUOTE=HarryHy;47134107]Does route -n show a proper route? Can you ping the gateway?[/QUOTE] route -n displays nothing and pinging the gateway just returns "connect: Network is unreachable"

Add routes using `route` then, if you have a proper IP etc in ifconfig (if no IP then your DHCP or something was bad)! Routes are usually received automatically via dhcpd though, so check that out at a later date. Dunno your network config so can't give examples, just probably something like `route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1` for 192.168.1.0/24 with router running on .1 e:ok kul, dhcpd was probably retrying in background for network fix, that's good then, glad it works now.

[QUOTE=HarryHy;47134363]Add routes using `route` then, if you have a proper IP etc in ifconfig (if no IP then your DHCP or something was bad)! Routes are usually received automatically via dhcpd though, so check that out at a later date.[/QUOTE] dhcpcd suddenly decided to get its act together after letting the installation iso remain alone for some minutes, no idea why it's working fine now [IMG]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG] never messed with routes before as I've always relied on dhcpcd, but I'll definitely look into it if the issue returns. thanks!

Hnngh Plasma 5 is so nice right now. Now for the rest of the KDE applications to get updated to KF5...

[QUOTE=PredGD;47134391]dhcpcd suddenly decided to get its act together after letting the installation iso remain alone for some minutes, no idea why it's working fine now [IMG]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG] never messed with routes before as I've always relied on dhcpcd, but I'll definitely look into it if the issue returns. thanks![/QUOTE] I sometimes have this issue with wired setups using certain .. Well, certain systems, and in those cases, it usually works to look up the ethernet device (enp0s1 or whatever) and run [code] $ dhcpcd enp0s1 [/code]

Greetings from Xubuntu! First-time linux user here, I just finished installing and I am very excited to try this out. I was very torn between distro choices and have settled on Xubuntu for my first one. I suppose I can always switch to another whenever I want, and thats the great thing about linux right? Wish me luck with this OS, I don't have much experience outside of windows. Is Xubuntu an ok choice, and what are some reccomended things to do right off the bat after installing it?

sudo update returns command not found. Xubuntu did bring an "Update" thing up for me after first logging in though so maybe that was it but already prepared for me in xubuntu?

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47155597]fuck i may have meant sudo apt-get update which is yeah essentially the inbuilt updater[/QUOTE] That did something, thanks!

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47155597]fuck i may have meant sudo apt-get update which is yeah essentially the inbuilt updater[/QUOTE] Ubuntu updates all its repos automatically. I'm not sure exactly how often but it's at least once a day. He picked the right distro to not worry about that. [editline]false automerge[/editline] also while i'm here, I have a couple of bugs with running Oblivion in Wine that I'd like to get solved. Nothing game breaking, though they're all pretty annoying: * Oblivion's ignoring my volume sliders and playing all sound tracks at maximum. This results in the music sometimes drowning out the sound effects and voices. This could also be a bug in Oblivion itself, knowing Bethesda. Any solutions apart from opening all the music files in Audacity and lowering the volume myself? * When I tell the game to exit, I get Wine's "Oblivion has stopped responding" dialog. This is the only time it happens, and I can press Enter to dismiss it (it won't draw on top of the game in fullscreen for some reason). I would like it to stop appearing though. Thoughts? * After an extremely long session in the game, the menus will just go black. It's not my card or my drivers, because once I exit Oblivion, KDE's compositing is as perfect as it's always been (and I would imagine KDE's compositing would have some sort of problem if my card or drivers were at fault). I can even just exit Oblivion and relaunch it and the problem goes away. What could be the problem? I'm running the native d3dx9.dll to avoid the black skin bug, is that DLL just getting confused by my window manager or something?

I get that second issue just running Oblivion in Windows...

[QUOTE=Levelog;47155806]I get that second issue just running Oblivion in Windows...[/QUOTE] I didn't get this issue until I moved my Oblivion saves and whatnot into Wine so I figured it was specific to Wineblivion. Found an OBSE plugin that should in theory fix it (and with my good luck with wine-compholio it probably will). Still would like to know solutions to the other problems. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47155902]I've had ubuntu and even Xubuntu not even try and update until I went apt-get update.[/QUOTE] that's actually kind of bizarre, that function's "just worked" for me since I first installed back in...09.10? 10.04? somewhere around there. i don't know what it could be that causes that

[QUOTE=pizza party;47155557]Greetings from Xubuntu! First-time linux user here, I just finished installing and I am very excited to try this out. I was very torn between distro choices and have settled on Xubuntu for my first one. I suppose I can always switch to another whenever I want, and thats the great thing about linux right? Wish me luck with this OS, I don't have much experience outside of windows. Is Xubuntu an ok choice, and what are some reccomended things to do right off the bat after installing it?[/QUOTE] Xubuntu is an great choice as it's simple and does not get in your way. The defaults in Xubuntu is quite sane, so other than personal customization there is nothing that you need to change right away either. As lavacano mentioned Xubuntu keeps it self updated via the Update Manager application, so using "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" is not necessary unless you want to update your system through the commandline. Depending on what graphics adapter you have then it might be necessary to install the vendor's drivers for these, as for some cards the driver bundled with the OS lacks some features and performance. Also, installing xubuntu-restricted-extras will install a lot of missing codecs as well as adobe flash which might be useful. You can find this package in your package manager by searching after "restricted" (I think its called Software Center in the menus). You can also install it by using the command-line if you want that: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras".

Oh right, this thread exists, too. Hi!

I should start playing some with Linux containers, been wanting to try out a Gentoo install with clang as the default compiler, or musl instead of glibc. There's something horribly boring about using a stable, binary based, distro instead of the possible bleeding edge source compiling of Gentoo.

I installed a Wayland-only DE named Maynard on my Model B+ Pi. I expected it to just lag itself to the grave. Nope, it actually works. The CPU is anemic at best, so opening a web browser is a death sentence, but the DE itself works. Only problem is that apparently 99% of programs don't have Wayland support, so they just keel over and die with no XWayland. XWayland is going to be more important than I thought.

[QUOTE=ace13;47161921]I should start playing some with Linux containers, been wanting to try out a Gentoo install with clang as the default compiler, or musl instead of glibc. There's something horribly boring about using a stable, binary based, distro instead of the possible bleeding edge source compiling of Gentoo.[/QUOTE] This sounds very possible, but you're essentially going to have to do a stage1 install to get a different libc and compiler than glibc/GCC [editline]18th February 2015[/editline] And even then the biggest timesink is probably going to be compiling LLVM

Why would you even want a system built with Clang when Clang still produces slower binaries than gcc? Clang is nice for development, but stuff you actually use should really be compiled with gcc. It could be an interesting experiment though. Just to see if everything actually builds with Clang, the Linux kernel still doesn't compile with Clang, last time I checked.

[QUOTE=nikomo;47165721]Why would you even want a system built with Clang when Clang still produces slower binaries than gcc? Clang is nice for development, but stuff you actually use should really be compiled with gcc. It could be an interesting experiment though. Just to see if everything actually builds with Clang, the Linux kernel still doesn't compile with Clang, last time I checked.[/QUOTE] Too many features depend on gcc in my opinion, even if a lot of those features are pretty solid. Not that I'd ever use Clang as my primary compiler, but it is a shame to be stuck with just one, even if just for the kernel (although it isn't just the kernel).

They're working on getting the kernel compiled with Clang. I want it just so you can actually have the option, gcc-specific hacks are awful. Finally setting up a minimal i3wm setup for a Raspberry Pi, using my B+ for it, while I wait for my Pi2 to arrive. I have a small formfactor UK-layout keyboard for it, I ordered it as a kid for usage with my PS2 when I played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 online, used it for chatting. Problem - I like to use super as my modifier on i3wm, the keyboard doesn't have super. If I use Alt, it also disables Alt Gr because Alt Gr is actually just Control + Alt on the backend. I can't type | (or €) without Alt Gr on that keyboard. Good thing Linux doesn't hate users, took me a minute to rebind caps lock to super when in X11.

That was my main problem with i3wm, it puts its global shortcuts behind only two keys. I have this weird ass philosophy where two-stroke shortcuts should be reserved for the active application. Global shortcuts (like i3wm's stuff) should require at least three (meta+shift+<key> seems reasonable to me)

You can change the modifier key setting in the config. set $mod Mod4 Just change that to set $mod Mod4+Shift and now the mod key is super+shift I just like using a single-key modifier.

shit why didn't i think of that

It's OK, not everyone can be as awesome as me, it's hard.

[QUOTE=nikomo;47167050]If I use Alt, it also disables Alt Gr because Alt Gr is actually just Control + Alt on the backend. I can't type | (or €) without Alt Gr on that keyboard. Good thing Linux doesn't hate users, took me a minute to rebind caps lock to super when in X11.[/QUOTE] Since when?? AltGr is a completely separate modifier key

[QUOTE=esalaka;47168342]Since when?? AltGr is a completely separate modifier key[/QUOTE] It's a completely separate key, but it's treated as Control + Alt in the OS. Some website actually had a bug related to that, that stopped some letter from being written on some keyboard layout. I think Windows hijacked something in the input. Windows still treats it as a separate key, so you can't Alt Gr + Del. But you can do Control+Alt+2 to write @ on the Finnish layout.

[QUOTE=nikomo;47168409]Windows still treats it as a separate key, so you can't Alt Gr + Del.[/QUOTE] I think that's because Windows is listening for a CPU interrupt instead of those three keys. If I remember right, the Ctrl+Alt+Del keystroke gets intercepted by the CPU before it ever gets to the OS, and the CPU sends an interrupt to the OS (who handles it however they want)

Sounds about right. Microsoft wanted their own separate button on the keyboard for that task, but they couldn't get it, so they had to hack it instead.