General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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does that also mean you can finally use for example plymouth with the nvidia drivers? previously I know you've had to switch to nouveau if you wanted a boot splash due to something with KMS
[editline]22nd March 2016[/editline]
do devs of KDE and Gnome for example need to update their stuff to enable Wayland for Nvidia drivers? or do you just need to update the driver and dive into Wayland?
Sooooooo... I assume this means proprietary nvidia driver=good idea now?
[QUOTE=PredGD;49984077]does that also mean you can finally use for example plymouth with the nvidia drivers? previously I know you've had to switch to nouveau if you wanted a boot splash due to something with KMS
[editline]22nd March 2016[/editline]
do devs of KDE and Gnome for example need to update their stuff to enable Wayland for Nvidia drivers? or do you just need to update the driver and dive into Wayland?[/QUOTE]
I'm not familiar with plymouth, but I'm guessing it needs early KMS, which it looks like the proprietary driver still doesn't do. I don't think wayland needs early KMS though, so that should work.
I just tried to get both plymouth and Wayland to work but with no success. I just added "nvidia" to the modules but I don't think it did much, probably no early KMS yet like you said. Wayland simply didn't work when I tried to launch a Gnome session with it. kicked me back to the login. Weston however did work so Wayland works somewhat, I suppose the Gnome devs should be blamed for that not working.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;49984232]Sooooooo... I assume this means proprietary nvidia driver=good idea now?[/QUOTE]
The Update makes a massive difference especially for the next few months.
DRM KMS Support
Mir / Wayland Support
Vulkan API Support
Wayland Support for Nvidia was one of the biggest points holding Wayland back.
DRM KMS Support has been dreamed of by Nvidia Users for many many years.
And the Vulkan API Support is pretty nice since it's finally here and people can actually use it.
I feel tempted to Dualboot once more when Ubuntu 16.04 Releases.
[editline]22nd March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=PredGD;49984639]I suppose the Gnome devs should be blamed for that not working.[/QUOTE]
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Mutter doesn't use EGLStreams and EGLDevice, yet.
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[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bcm9w/nvidia_releases_display_driver_36412_with_wayland/d18h4ci[/url]
[QUOTE=PredGD;49984077]does that also mean you can finally use for example plymouth with the nvidia drivers? previously I know you've had to switch to nouveau if you wanted a boot splash due to something with KMS[/QUOTE]
If you run uvesafb for text consoles, you can run plymouth on that and then let the proprietary nVidia driver take over when xdm starts.
That's how I did it on my old nVidia computer, long as you didn't make a habit of switching between text console and X display it was fine
Is ClamAV still relevant? Does it get updated often? Also, is the one on the Ubuntu software center up to date?
If not, what is a good alternative virus scanner for Linux.
Thanks. :smile:
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49999399]Is ClamAV still relevant? Does it get updated often? Also, is the one on the Ubuntu software center up to date?
If not, what is a good alternative virus scanner for Linux.
Thanks. :smile:[/QUOTE]
ClamAV is still relevant, and is probably one of the best tools I've ever used. Be aware though, that it mostly catches Windows virus', not so much malware for Linux. If you play your cards right, you won't have to worry too much about Linux malware. Certainly not as much as Windows malware.
Update your systems, and know what applications you install and use.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;49999589]ClamAV is still relevant, and is probably one of the best tools I've ever used. Be aware though, that it mostly catches Windows virus', not so much malware for Linux. If you play your cards right, you won't have to worry too much about Linux malware. Certainly not as much as Windows malware.
Update your systems, and know what applications you install and use.[/QUOTE]Oh, thanks for the information.
Do you know of any good virus scanner that catches Linux malware?
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49999399]Is ClamAV still relevant? Does it get updated often? Also, is the one on the Ubuntu software center up to date?
If not, what is a good alternative virus scanner for Linux.
Thanks. :smile:[/QUOTE]
people usually only use clamav for scanning email attachments for samba shares.
[QUOTE=maaatts;49999782]people usually only use clamav for scanning email attachments or samba shares.[/QUOTE]
It's also generally my go-to scanner for live environments
it's not exactly MBAM but it does a damn good job of rescuing otherwise doomed Windows partitions
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49999648]Oh, thanks for the information.
Do you know of any good virus scanner that catches Linux malware?[/QUOTE]
All I really know of is sophos, chkrootkit, and rkhunter, the latter two of the three are pretty minimal tools for very specific threats, without live scanning. Most linux users just don't bother. You can even argue that installing an anti-virus that works like say, avast on windows can make you less secure, because of the permissions they have to have in order to run.
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49999648]Oh, thanks for the information.
Do you know of any good virus scanner that catches Linux malware?[/QUOTE]
If you want that, you'll need an on-demand scanner. You're better off doing cloud-based/off-site and offline backups, and maintaining a secure-enough system. It'll perform better, and in catastrophic events, you've got a backup. I personally use Borg, now that it's stable, but any sort of backup system is most likely going to work fine for most people.
Oh, and anti virus that isn't on-demand is rarely worth the time, unless your system uses very specific configurations that you do not back up for whatever reason. It's usually faster to simply reinstall and restore from backup, than it is to reboot into a secure environment, hunt for malware, and check on any false positives to make sure that the software is doing the right thing (heuristics).
[QUOTE=mastersrp;50000236]If you want that, you'll need an on-demand scanner. You're better off doing cloud-based/off-site and offline backups, and maintaining a secure-enough system. It'll perform better, and in catastrophic events, you've got a backup. I personally use Borg, now that it's stable, but any sort of backup system is most likely going to work fine for most people.
Oh, and anti virus that isn't on-demand is rarely worth the time, unless your system uses very specific configurations that you do not back up for whatever reason. It's usually faster to simply reinstall and restore from backup, than it is to reboot into a secure environment, hunt for malware, and check on any false positives to make sure that the software is doing the right thing (heuristics).[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right; booting into a secure environment and manually hunting for malware can be quite the pain.
Thanks again for the advice and the information. :smile:
Yeah ClamAV is still useful. I use it on all my Linux machines and run it on my router to scan all http traffic.
So, I noticed that some of the tracks had some fairly noticeable crackling when I played them using Clementine.
After a bit of sleuthing, I installed the gstreamer1.0-alsa package and tried Clementine again, and now the crackling is gone and the sound quality seems to have improved with pretty much anything I've thrown at Clementine (it definitely sounds like it). I suppose this had something to do with PulseAudio being used instead of ALSA directly?
[url]https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway[/url]
for you i3 people, now you can wayland. Over here in xmonad land there isn't a wayland port in sight unfortunately. Not like it's urgent to hop over though
I decided to give KDE a try. I don't like it so far, but we'll see.
[QUOTE=Levelog;50018648]I decided to give KDE a try. I don't like it so far, but we'll see.[/QUOTE]
KDE for me looks too damn generic
I personally am more of a Unity / Pantheon kind of guy
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50018447][url]https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway[/url]
for you i3 people, now you can wayland. Over here in xmonad land there isn't a wayland port in sight unfortunately. Not like it's urgent to hop over though[/QUOTE]
Would there be any noticeable change for me switching to Wayland?
[QUOTE=Lenzikus;50019477]Would there be any noticeable change for me switching to Wayland?[/QUOTE]
dragging windows smoothly
no tearing
yum
[QUOTE=maaatts;50019798]dragging windows smoothly
no tearing
yum[/QUOTE]
Is that a no? Does this actually happen to people?
[QUOTE=mastersrp;50019931]Is that a no? Does this actually happen to people?[/QUOTE]
It does for quite a few, actually. While switching to a good compositor like compton can fix it, it doesn't always do it. Besides those things, most of the wayland improvements are for developers. Xorg is a huge complicated thing with archaic code that is hard to work on and has several hacks as I've been told.
On this PC my computer doesn't really tear at all in Linux, and dragging windows is smoother than it is on windows. But on my other desktop? beaugh, it's disgusting.
I've always wanted to give KDE a proper try but it always permanently fucks up my GTK settings even though I uninstall it afterwards. suddenly I can't change my fonts or themes anymore from Gnome and have to use KDE's tool to change everything. if I uninstall, I'll be without the ability to theme my desktop.
[editline]28th March 2016[/editline]
did the big mistake of installing Plasma, oops. at the very least I'm able to change my themes but I can't modify my font settings anymore. help?
for everyone that is currently trying KDE. use Oxygen istead of breeze, I think it Looks much better, pick oxygen icon theme too, and for color theme try "Wonton Soup".
this is my KDE setup for the last 9 months.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;50021940]for everyone that is currently trying KDE. use Oxygen istead of breeze, I think it Looks much better, pick oxygen icon theme too, and for color theme try "Wonton Soup".
this is my KDE setup for the last 9 months.[/QUOTE]
I really like diamond too, for when I'm using KDE. I guess that if I'm going to go bloat, I'll go FULL BLOAT. A couple other things too that I used to use but its been awhile.
I spent like half an hour last night fighting systemd-networkd
Had a look at the config just now.
Name=etho0
Derp.
I'll have my other desktop repaired soon and I wanna run something a bit different/interesting on it. Thinking of either running a BSD (dragonfly or free) or void GNU/Linux with musl libc rather than boring ol' arch which I base everything else on. Software wise they've all got what I need. Agree for *BSD or disagree for void.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50029391]I'll have my other desktop repaired soon and I wanna run something a bit different/interesting on it. Thinking of either running a BSD (dragonfly or free) or void GNU/Linux with musl libc rather than boring ol' arch which I base everything else on. Software wise they've all got what I need. Agree for *BSD or disagree for void.[/QUOTE]
What GPU do you have? The newer NVIDIA cards work well under FreeBSD (if you use proprietary driver)
[QUOTE=maaatts;50029470]What GPU do you have? The newer NVIDIA cards work well under FreeBSD (if you use proprietary driver)[/QUOTE]
GTX 970 on that PC.
edit: right, freeBSD it'll be then. I'll go the compile everything route this time rather than pkginstall which I usually did
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