General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!
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[QUOTE=nikomo;50029065]I spent like half an hour last night fighting systemd-networkd
Had a look at the config just now.
Name=etho0
Derp.[/QUOTE]
No straightforward "interface does not exist" error?
[QUOTE=lavacano;50031379]No straightforward "interface does not exist" error?[/QUOTE]
Nope, only prints messages for interfaces that have been configured properly, and exist.
I think it's made that way, because on certain systems, you can have network interfaces that disappear, like tun0 on a server etc.
[QUOTE=nikomo;50031855]Nope, only prints messages for interfaces that have been configured properly, and exist.
I think it's made that way, because on certain systems, you can have network interfaces that disappear, like tun0 on a server etc.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, on a server I really just prefer to use something like /etc/network/interfaces.
I don't want some shitty system messing about with my network. I need it to work how I need it to work, and my word as a system administrator should be final. The system should not have an opinion on anything.
And I tried half a day to get chef-solo to work. First time dipping my toes into Configuration Management and wanted to try it out and get some more convenient ways to Setup and Update stuff on my server.
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Unexpected Error:
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TypeError: no implicit conversion of Array into String
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Sure is a nice and easy to understandable error message.
Especially since the solution is that a file in a completely unrelated place was missing.
Now my next challenge is to actually learn some ruby and Start to create some Chef Recipes.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50029504]I'll go the compile everything route this time rather than pkginstall which I usually did[/QUOTE]
imo the way gentoo portage works with USE flags is better.
So I'm getting the Quarantine PC fixed up with fresh installs of Windows and Linux.
I'm throwing 10 on there but I'm stuck at what Linux to use. Atm I'm leaning on Pentoo but does anyone got any suggestions? It'll essentially be used as Quarantine (no shit)/ Data Recovery / Forensics and Investigation.
[QUOTE=maaatts;50032241]imo the way gentoo portage works with USE flags is better.[/QUOTE]
It takes time and disk space (though today that part isn't really relevant), but I like the advantages of compiling the program where you customize it as you compile, and that small speed boost you can pretend is noticeable.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50032977]It takes time and disk space (though today that part isn't really relevant), but I like the advantages of compiling the program where you customize it as you compile, and that small speed boost you can pretend is noticeable.[/QUOTE]
But with Portage, you set it once and everything after is compiled like that.
Instead of disabling ipv6 on every package I built, i just set -ipv6 once.
[QUOTE=maaatts;50033124]But with Portage, you set it once and everything after is compiled like that.
Instead of disabling ipv6 on every package I built, i just set -ipv6 once.[/QUOTE]
Use flags do sound really nice. But I have to maintain my gentoo virginity until trump wins/loses. Because of toxx
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50018447][url]https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway[/url]
for you i3 people, now you can wayland. Over here in xmonad land there isn't a wayland port in sight unfortunately. Not like it's urgent to hop over though[/QUOTE]
Between this and KMS support on the proprietary NVIDIA drivers, how usable is Wayland as a daily driver?
Is XWayland capable of running 3D applications?
[QUOTE=mastersrp;50031870]Honestly, on a server I really just prefer to use something like /etc/network/interfaces.
I don't want some shitty system messing about with my network. I need it to work how I need it to work, and my word as a system administrator should be final. The system should not have an opinion on anything.[/QUOTE]
Err, /etc/network/interfaces is literally the same thing as a network interface definition with systemd-networkd.
systemd-networkd was built to be minimal, for use on servers, that's why it lacks basically everything you'd need for usage on a laptop etc.
[QUOTE=nikomo;50034468]Err, /etc/network/interfaces is literally the same thing as a network interface definition with systemd-networkd.
systemd-networkd was built to be minimal, for use on servers, that's why it lacks basically everything you'd need for usage on a laptop etc.[/QUOTE]
I might consider it. Does it support VLAN "bonding"? Can I use it without using the rest of systemd?
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50032977] and that small speed boost you can pretend is noticeable.[/QUOTE]
it builds up on you as you go along
I used to not notice it either, and then I ran Fedora again just to see how Red Hat was getting along and oh dear [i]God[/i] i could feel the molasses just coating the entire thing and good lord don't send me back
[editline]30th March 2016[/editline]
as long as you don't rice out your make.conf file anyway
[QUOTE=lavacano;50034919]it builds up on you as you go along
I used to not notice it either, and then I ran Fedora again just to see how Red Hat was getting along and oh dear [i]God[/i] i could feel the molasses just coating the entire thing and good lord don't send me back[/QUOTE]
are you sure it wasn't because fedora uses gnome? gnome is quite slow.
also fedora runs a search indexer all the time which was probably raping your hard drive.
[QUOTE=lavacano;50034919]as long as you don't rice out your make.conf file anyway[/QUOTE]
-funroll-loops
[QUOTE=maaatts;50035253]are you sure it wasn't because fedora uses gnome? gnome is quite slow.
also fedora runs a search indexer all the time which was probably raping your hard drive.[/QUOTE]
I'm comparing it to Gentoo running KDE. Which also has a search indexer that runs a lot.
I gave Fedora a little bit of leeway because I figured it was probably running a few extra things I'd never installed in Gentoo ever, but it was still excessively slow.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50029391]I'll have my other desktop repaired soon and I wanna run something a bit different/interesting on it. Thinking of either running a BSD (dragonfly or free) or void GNU/Linux with musl libc rather than boring ol' arch which I base everything else on. Software wise they've all got what I need. Agree for *BSD or disagree for void.[/QUOTE]
Strangely, the adapter, a panda PAU06 which uses the Ralink RT5372 chipset, is listed to be a supported chipset, but won't work for me (under FreeBSD). The most fun part of *nix desktops for sure.
I guess musl libc it is then
edit: muscle memory is really fucking me over. I can't help but type xbox-install instead of xbps-install smh. I'm going to run wayland and sway on this thing, since it's got an NVIDIA card, and see how it goes.
Getting my VM up and running on my gaming desktop so I can just dedicate the second screen to it instead of dealing with Windows for wanting to do any productivity.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/CPLcwBV.png[/t]
[QUOTE=rilez;50034314]Between this and KMS support on the proprietary NVIDIA drivers, how usable is Wayland as a daily driver?
Is XWayland capable of running 3D applications?[/QUOTE]
I'm using it on Debian Sid, along with Gnome3 and the usual day-to-day applications. It's working great - but I am using the nouveau driver.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;50034513]I might consider it. Does it support VLAN "bonding"? Can I use it without using the rest of systemd?[/QUOTE]
From quick Googling, yes it does support bonding like that, but I've never used it.
systemd-networkd depends on systemd-resolved if you want DNS addresses from the DHCP client, or if you're specifying a DNS server to be used for the interface.
Other than that, all you need is systemd itself.
[QUOTE=nikomo;50039274]From quick Googling, yes it does support bonding like that, but I've never used it.
systemd-networkd depends on systemd-resolved if you want DNS addresses from the DHCP client, or if you're specifying a DNS server to be used for the interface.
Other than that, all you need is systemd itself.[/QUOTE]
If it depends on systemd, then it's a no go for me. It's great that it does support the bonding, because no server is complete without that.
I don't specify DNS anywhere but my static /etc/resolv.conf files, and it's the internal DNS server that controls the rest, so that wouldn't have been a problem.
Isn't it possible to use things that depend on systemd while still using another init system? I know it's possible on Debian because I wanted OpenRC and Gnome, and it was faster for some reason
Systemd is somewhat modular.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50040016]Systemd is somewhat modular.[/QUOTE]
Key word is somewhat. Many systemd programs will work without, potentially requiring small tweaks/workarounds. Some programs hard depend on systemd because they're developed by naughty people and require patches, like GNOME3.
... It's kinda of a given that systemd-networkd requires systemd, since it's a component of systemd, if you look at the name of it.
I don't have a single Linux box left that doesn't use systemd, and I love it.
when I firstart started using Systemd, I was somewhat annoyed at how it works, but now I can't see me going back to anything else on Linux. It's just so convenient and offers a more simple and consistent experience.
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;50039481]Isn't it possible to use things that depend on systemd while still using another init system? I know it's possible on Debian because I wanted OpenRC and Gnome, and it was faster for some reason[/QUOTE]
systemd shims exist
Also it was probably faster because OpenRC doesn't come with its own logger, cron daemon, network manager, kitchen sink or batteries, idea being if you needed it, you'd go get your favorite out of all the options. So it's quite possible that you were actually running less things in general when you ran OpenRC/GNOME. You may not even have been running a syslogger if you didn't ask for one, I'm not sure how Debian handles that sort of thing.
So what are the chances of me being able to run Linux (Arch?) on a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50044371]The only issue with doing this is that the i3 3220 does not support VT-d. I have no idea if I actually need it.[/QUOTE]
You need VT-d for 64-bit Vbox VMs. A 32 bit VM is going to run slow as shit without VT-d.
If you don't mind the shocking speeds but you need 64-bit, you could try QEMU. But again it's still going to be slow.
I am trying to get RescueTime to work as a service for systemd (Haven't done that before, so excuse me for a moment here)
RescueTime is located in /bin/rescuetime and my rescuetime.service looks like:
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[Unit]
Description=Rescue Time
[Service]
ExecStart=/bin/rescuetime
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
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But systemctl status rescuetime.service reports back:
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Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop systemd[1]: Started Rescue Time.
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: couldn't open display
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: couldn't open display
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: xprop: unable to open display ''
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: xprop: unable to open display ''
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: couldn't open display
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop rescuetime[5271]: RescueTime: cannot connect to X server
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop systemd[1]: rescuetime.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop systemd[1]: rescuetime.service: Unit entered failed state.
Apr 01 10:45:24 jalict-laptop systemd[1]: rescuetime.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
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[editline]1st April 2016[/editline]
I have installed rescuetime using AUR as I thought that would set everything up for me, but doesn't look like so :(
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50045957]Basically I only need it to be fast enough to handle a web browser(probably Chrome) and Audacity.[/QUOTE]
I think I got VT-d and VT-x mixed up :$
Your motherboard supports VT-x so performance will be fine. However VT-d is the thing that allows you to pass through devices into the VM so you might have problems with that.
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