General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=maaatts;50119598]I know this is Linux Chat, but has anyone tried Steam on FreeBSD?[/QUOTE] It's pretty much a general *nix chat because others have been mentioned too. And I tried it, I really wouldn't bother with it, because it's just rubbish to emulate it through the linux emulation layer. If all you need is chat I recommend getting pidgin with the opensteamworks plugin. Also I've found openRC to be quite nice so far. It's very easy to use (pretty much just as simple as systemd) and I like how modular it is. Boot time is virtually the same

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50120406] Also I've found openRC to be quite nice so far. It's very easy to use (pretty much just as simple as systemd) and I like how modular it is. Boot time is virtually the same[/QUOTE] OpenRC's main strategy is mostly "fix the parts of SysV init that suck". I think it does that job incredibly well. If you haven't yet, I strongly recommend poking through /etc/rc.conf and making sure you've at least looked at all the options (there's only like six you need to actually consider unless you've got an unusual configuration). Personally, I have RC_INTERACTIVE on just in case a world upgrade causes one of my services to screw up booting (easier to just skip it). It still boots as normal unless you actually press I, so there's zero boot time change in normal circumstances (unless you were previously using RC_PARALLEL, since I believe those two options still conflict).

[code]sudo apt-get install beneath-a-steel-sky[/code]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50120406]It's pretty much a general *nix chat because others have been mentioned too. And I tried it, I really wouldn't bother with it, because it's just rubbish to emulate it through the linux emulation layer. If all you need is chat I recommend getting pidgin with the opensteamworks plugin.[/QUOTE] DRM platforms are rubbish to go through regardless of operating system and emulation layer. [editline]Wait, people still use Pigdgin? Unironically? Let me laugh even harder. Please take this line as a joke.[/editline] And if you want the chat, there's [URL=https://github.com/bitlbee/bitlbee-steam]bitlbee-steam[/URL]. [editline]e[/editline] While we're on that this is full blown Unix chat thread, to the one other person who comes across this message that uses OpenBSD whoever you may be, did you use a wi-fi USB dongle that uses the [URL=http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man4/run.4]run(4)[/url] Ralink drivers in 5.7 but resorts to [URL=http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man4/ugen.4]ugen(4)[/url] in 5.9? The best I can find is a similar issue back in 2013 in gmane.os.openbsd.bugs, but "wouldn't be enough". [URL=http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man8/ifconfig.8]ifconfig[/URL] won't let me do anything with it. Searching the [URL=http://www.openbsd.org/faq/]FAQ[/URL] or the internet isn't being fruitful either.

General UNIX and Stargate chat?

Add weird-fucking-OSes in there. Because I gave MenuetOS a try in a VM, and wow, it's impressive. It's an OS written entirely in assembly, has a functional webbrowser (no facepunch cause cloudflare a shit), a desktop environment that looks alright, IRC, a few games installed and even ways to put DOSbox, doom, and quake on it, a few demos, paint program, etc.. The really impressive part is though, that it's all 1.4 MB, less than a fifth the size of MS DOS I believe, also meaning it'll fit perfectly on a floppy. Can't really say I plan on daily driving it, but it might be useful for someone who is learning assembly.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50129559]Add weird-fucking-OSes in there. Because I gave MenuetOS a try in a VM, and wow, it's impressive. It's an OS written entirely in assembly, has a functional webbrowser (no facepunch cause cloudflare a shit), a desktop environment that looks alright, IRC, a few games installed and even ways to put DOSbox, doom, and quake on it, a few demos, paint program, etc.. The really impressive part is though, that it's all 1.4 MB, less than a fifth the size of MS DOS I believe, also meaning it'll fit perfectly on a floppy. Can't really say I plan on daily driving it, but it might be useful for someone who is learning assembly.[/QUOTE] Oh god, how stable is it?

[QUOTE=FPtje;50129583]Oh god, how stable is it?[/QUOTE] Was pretty stable for me. It's probably a lot like templeOS where you can absolutely wreck it if you want to/mess up though. Oh, two other things I didn't mention. It also has window transparancy and supports 1080p.

[url=https://www.haiku-os.org/]And what about Haiku?[/url] :v:

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;50129616][url=https://www.haiku-os.org/]And what about Haiku?[/url] :v:[/QUOTE] Honestly, HaikuOS is a surprisingly easy to use system, and the GUI they've made represents that pretty well. In my opinion anyway.

I was planning on trying to do a GPU passthrough using xen to try running games without having windows on a main drive. And both my CPU and GPU don't support it, because while the i7 3770 can, the i7 3770k can't, and my nvidia card will apparently detect it's running in a VM and refuse to run because nvidia. Oh well, something to keep in mind next time I build a PC. Also that'll be quite amazing for linux adoption in the future if someone comes up with an "it just werks" way to do this And I figured out how I killed my laptop a few years ago. I did sudo rm -rf / because internet, and that is what caused it to be incapable of booting because with UEFI and systemd, you actually can erase your UEFI and brick your PC.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50139751]I was planning on trying to do a GPU passthrough using xen to try running games without having windows on a main drive. And both my CPU and GPU don't support it, because while the i7 3770 can, the i7 3770k can't, and my nvidia card will apparently detect it's running in a VM and refuse to run because nvidia. Oh well, something to keep in mind next time I build a PC. Also that'll be quite amazing for linux adoption in the future if someone comes up with an "it just werks" way to do this And I figured out how I killed my laptop a few years ago. I did sudo rm -rf / because internet, and that is what caused it to be incapable of booting because with UEFI and systemd, you actually can erase your UEFI and brick your PC.[/QUOTE] doesn't all UEFI boards support legacy though? I was under the impression that they're all able to fall back to that if something like that for example happens. would also be a little weird to not support it in general

Finally got around to building a new desktop dual e5-2670's and a measly gtx950. But now I have the hardest decision, which distribution to install? I've been thinking of going with Arch for rolling release, and newer kernels for gpu passthrough. Fearful of an update that might take the system out though, unless Arch has changed from how it was ~5 years ago. Have a base arch installation on it now, but I'm so used to brew on Osx so I'm wondering which package manager is best for easily setting up dev dependencies.

[QUOTE=PredGD;50140073]doesn't all UEFI boards support legacy though? I was under the impression that they're all able to fall back to that if something like that for example happens. would also be a little weird to not support it in general[/QUOTE] Eh, I couldn't figure out how to get it up. At the time ofc I didn't think it'd be the UEFI so my plan was to take out the hard drive, put it into another PC and attempt to boot from it to see if it worked. And then wipe it clean, put something fresh on it, and put it back, but it had very weird screws with very poor build quality that pretty much stopped from me from opening it, I gave up. My new laptop fortunately doesn't fight me when I try to open it. [QUOTE=Bonzai11;50140125]Finally got around to building a new desktop dual e5-2670's and a measly gtx950. But now I have the hardest decision, which distribution to install? I've been thinking of going with Arch for rolling release, and newer kernels for gpu passthrough. Fearful of an update that might take the system out though, unless Arch has changed from how it was ~5 years ago. Have a base arch installation on it now, but I'm so used to brew on Osx so I'm wondering which package manager is best for easily setting up dev dependencies.[/QUOTE] The general advice is to read the news pages when you update, and you shouldn't have many problems. Just in case though, be sure to just update say, on a Friday night so if something does mess up you have time to correct it. I've never heard of anyone having an arch update completely trash their system.

[QUOTE=Bonzai11;50140125]Finally got around to building a new desktop dual e5-2670's and a measly gtx950. But now I have the hardest decision, which distribution to install? I've been thinking of going with Arch for rolling release, and newer kernels for gpu passthrough. Fearful of an update that might take the system out though, unless Arch has changed from how it was ~5 years ago. Have a base arch installation on it now, but I'm so used to brew on Osx so I'm wondering which package manager is best for easily setting up dev dependencies.[/QUOTE] I vote Gentoo, if you have enough periods of time where you're not using the computer anyway to compile things. You don't have to go to the news entries in Gentoo, the news entries come to you.

[QUOTE=lavacano;50140537]I vote Gentoo, if you have enough periods of time where you're not using the computer anyway to compile things. You don't have to go to the news entries in Gentoo, the news entries come to you.[/QUOTE] Yeah, my week or so of using Gentoo have made me think that this will be a very nice distribution once I really get to know it. It's quite nice. It's not as hard as people made it out to be and the IRC was very helpful

Welp, I switched to FreeBSD and games don't work too well. At least I'll have time to revise for my exams now.

I had less fuzz with Gentoo/Funtoo than I had with Arch when I tried them out. Well except for compiling time, but OpenRC is another plus.

[QUOTE=maaatts;50141710]Welp, I switched to FreeBSD and games don't work too well. At least I'll have time to revise for my exams now.[/QUOTE] Any particular reason why FreeBSD and not OpenBSD?

what even is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD besides the team maintaining it

From what I know, OpenBSD uses LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL

[QUOTE=lavacano;50150734]what even is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD besides the team maintaining it[/QUOTE] FreeBSD is more of a "it just werks" BSD distro. OpenBSD's team is more focused on security and "correctness". That and oBSD, from experience, just felt a little more sane out of the box.

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;50150791]FreeBSD is more of a "it just werks" BSD distro. OpenBSD's team is more focused on security and "correctness". That and oBSD, from experience, just felt a little more sane out of the box.[/QUOTE] openbsd really isn't that much secure, they can jerk off over their "correct code" as much as they want though. they count the security as the base system, ie with no software or services running. of course it's going to be secure if you turn it off and bury it in the sand. also theo de raadt is severely autistic, and not in a funny way like torvalds.

I really regret getting corsair peripherals when thinking of Linux. my M65 RGB worked on my previous install and it worked for some time on my new, but now? completely non functional. I can't use Arch at all since my mice won't work

is there a way to tell what kind of encryption and so on a partition / disk has? I encrypted my USB pen ages ago with LUKS I believe to hold onto some private keys of mine aand I lost said private keys when I reinstalled. I know that they're on that USB, but I've forgotten how I configured this. I don't remember if I had just a password or a keyfile too. I have the password but I'm not able to mount it, though I am trying to do this on Windows using LibreCrypt. I'm not even sure if it is LUKS encrypted at this point, maybe I'm trying to mount it with the wrong settings. I have no idea. [editline]18th April 2016[/editline] I also need some help with troubleshooting my mouse in Linux. I have a M65 RGB which suddenly stopped working completely, no life when using. it does light up and I can change its colors using the unofficial drivers (ckb) but not much else happens. it is recognized by the system so I find it odd that I can't use it. I also tried my old mice, the Razer Mamba, but this doesn't work either. this too is recognized by the system. whats up here? I know the mice works since it works on Windows [editline]18th April 2016[/editline] solved both issues! or, didn't really solve the first one but I got around it. in Linux I was able to mount it with no hassle, it knew what to do. Windows doesn't really know what this shit is. my mouse problem was related to me disabling mouse acceleration. I'm not sure why it didn't work since I think it should work, but I assume it's because I'm using an unofficial driver which conflicted with my config. offending file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-acceleration.conf [code]Section "InputClass" Identifier "My Mouse" Driver "libinput" MatchIsPointer "yes" Option "AccelProfile" "flat" EndSection[/code]

Terminus is such a nice TTY font I don't ever want to start an x session again. Terminus and inconsolata are the shit

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50157832]Terminus is such a nice TTY font I don't ever want to start an x session again. Terminus and inconsolata are the shit[/QUOTE] i always want to like those bitmap fonts but my current winner is operator mono, i've also enjoyed hack and input

ever since I learned about GPU passthrough I've always wanted to a buy a new CPU. unfortunately I did buy a new CPU without confirming that it had VT-d support, but fortunately it DOES! I'm soon the owner of a fresh and hip 6600k and this baby supports VT-d! is this the end of my Windows use? will VT-d be the savior and break me free? time will tell!

[QUOTE=PredGD;50165107]ever since I learned about GPU passthrough I've always wanted to a buy a new CPU. unfortunately I did buy a new CPU without confirming that it had VT-d support, but fortunately it DOES! I'm soon the owner of a fresh and hip 6600k and this baby supports VT-d! is this the end of my Windows use? will VT-d be the savior and break me free? time will tell![/QUOTE] And then you're unlucky enough to have an nvidia card. But you lucky bastard. I hear that if you set it up right with a well performing hypervisor like xen you can basically get 95-98% performance in games

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50165203]And then you're unlucky enough to have an nvidia card. But you lucky bastard. I hear that if you set it up right with a well performing hypervisor like xen you can basically get 95-98% performance in games[/QUOTE] oh no, what are you saying? I am the unlucky(?) owner of a 780Ti, does it not work properly for nvidia users? that wasn't expected at all, usually AMD users gets shafted on the Linux front from what I've seen (though it worked pretty swell using my two 6870's when I still used those) [editline]20th April 2016[/editline] already planning for glorious GPU passthrough and I just realized, that iGPU probably won't be able to drive 144hz. ugh. suppose I could toss in one of my old 6870's and use that for Linux while using my current card for VM?