General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop!

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50192534]You might try to download and compile it yourself, then fix a nice custom ebuild for yourself.[/QUOTE]

I JUST might be able to accomplish former, but latter is definitely gonna crash and burn harder than the ebuilds I found

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50192610]I JUST might be able to accomplish former, but latter is definitely gonna crash and burn harder than the ebuilds I found[/QUOTE]

How so? An ebuild is literally just a list of commands to run with some meta information.

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50192646]How so? An ebuild is literally just a list of commands to run with some meta information.[/QUOTE]

Because I'm a idiot at compiling, that's why.

Trust me, ebuilds have shielded me from fucking shit up, without that safety net, it WILL go bad.

[maaatts]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50192683]Because I'm a idiot at compiling, that's why.

Trust me, ebuilds have shielded me from fucking shit up, without that safety net, it WILL go bad.[/QUOTE]

1. install dependencies
2. make && make install
3. ????

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=maaatts;50200120]1. install dependencies
2. make && make install
3. ????[/QUOTE]

Throws errors at me I can't decipher myself, even with a search engine at my disposal.

Most likely a arcane dependency it's shit at telling me about, or some shitty code practice that was tolerable a few years ago, but now makes newer compilers get their panties in a bunch.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50200191]Throws errors at me I can't decipher myself, even with a search engine at my disposal.

Most likely a arcane dependency it's shit at telling me about, or some shitty code practice that was tolerable a few years ago, but now makes newer compilers get their panties in a bunch.[/QUOTE]

$ ./configure --help

You might need to pass some arguments to configure here and there. Example, supposing what you're compiling has problems finding a "libbizarro" because it's in, well, a bizarre directory that the script doesn't think to check, you might need to tell it where that library is:

$ ./configure --libbizarro-path=/opt/libbizarro/include

[Thelurker1234]

Is the brainfuck scheduler worth using today on modern machines? Or is it just observably benificial on old machines? I pretty much always use linux-ck when I use a different kernel source. I dunno though, might be placebo.

[lavacano]

Just switch to the default kernel scheduler and see if you notice the slowdown. I don't know what distro you're on, so I don't know if that means changing kernel packages for you or setting an option in kernel config or what, but I'm assuming switching kernels and/or schedulers isn't too much of a pain in the ass, so if you don't like it you can just switch back :v:

[Thelurker1234]

[QUOTE=lavacano;50205371]Just switch to the default kernel scheduler and see if you notice the slowdown. I don't know what distro you're on, so I don't know if that means changing kernel packages for you or setting an option in kernel config or what, but I'm assuming switching kernels and/or schedulers isn't too much of a pain in the ass, so if you don't like it you can just switch back :v:[/QUOTE]

I'll probably test this on Gentoo then. Super easy and I can make sure they're configured the exact same (aside from the ck specific options)

[vlad]

feeling pretty genius! never really made something completely on my own using bash scripting, but today that changed. I saw some discussion about RAMDisks in sipwicket and I had the idea that I could probably put my FTB servers on a RAM disk as I have about 16GB in excess. tried scripts found on the internet first which didn't work (to copy the server off the RAM disk at regular intervals) so I made my own script. also solved my issue of server not auto restarting upon crash as the script also handles that

#!/bin/bash

DATE=`date +%s`

if ps cax | grep startNormal; then
        echo "Server running. Making backup."
        cp -rv --preserve=links "/home/minecraft/Infinity/normal_RAMDISK/" "/home/minecraft/Infinity/backups/normal/$DATE"
        cd /home/minecraft/Infinity/backups/normal && rm -rf `ls -t | tail -n +6`
        echo "Backup complete!"
else
        echo "Server not running. Launching..."
        screen -S normal -X stuff 'cd /home/minecraft/Infinity/normal_RAMDISK && ./startNormal.sh\n'
        echo "Server script executed!"
fi

if I knew it was this easy then I would have done this ages ago. put it in my crontab to run every 5 minutes, works pretty swell so far

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=PredGD;50206697]feeling pretty genius! never really made something completely on my own using bash scripting, but today that changed. I saw some discussion about RAMDisks in sipwicket and I had the idea that I could probably put my FTB servers on a RAM disk as I have about 16GB in excess. tried scripts found on the internet first which didn't work (to copy the server off the RAM disk at regular intervals) so I made my own script. also solved my issue of server not auto restarting upon crash as the script also handles that

#!/bin/bash

DATE=`date +%s`

if ps cax | grep startNormal; then
        echo "Server running. Making backup."
        cp -rv --preserve=links "/home/minecraft/Infinity/normal_RAMDISK/" "/home/minecraft/Infinity/backups/normal/$DATE"
        cd /home/minecraft/Infinity/backups/normal && rm -rf `ls -t | tail -n +6`
        echo "Backup complete!"
else
        echo "Server not running. Launching..."
        screen -S normal -X stuff 'cd /home/minecraft/Infinity/normal_RAMDISK && ./startNormal.sh\n'
        echo "Server script executed!"
fi

if I knew it was this easy then I would have done this ages ago. put it in my crontab to run every 5 minutes, works pretty swell so far[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure, but it seems you're taking a backup, and then deleting the last 6 backups?
If so, then I can only advise you try something like borg backup, to avoid accidentally deleting *all* your backups just because size.

[vlad]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50207116]I'm not sure, but it seems you're taking a backup, and then deleting the last 6 backups?
If so, then I can only advise you try something like borg backup, to avoid accidentally deleting *all* your backups just because size.[/QUOTE]

it takes a backup, and if there's a sixth folder in the directory it'll delete said folder.

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=PredGD;50207578]it takes a backup, and if there's a sixth folder in the directory it'll delete said folder.[/QUOTE]

Whoops, you're right. Missed the '+'. Still, you might want to back up more than the last 6 backups. Especially if you're doing this every 5 minutes.

[vlad]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50207707]Whoops, you're right. Missed the '+'. Still, you might want to back up more than the last 6 backups. Especially if you're doing this every 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]

it's more of a "ensure server is preserved in the event of power failure" (RAM disks man) than a backup so I feel pretty confident with 5 backups. I suppose I could spare the space for 10 backups, I do have 2TB at my disposal. probably better that way anyway

[HueyFreeman]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50204193]Is the brainfuck scheduler worth using today on modern machines? Or is it just observably benificial on old machines? I pretty much always use linux-ck when I use a different kernel source. I dunno though, might be placebo.[/QUOTE]

I was recently reading about this and it's a wash compared to the current scheduler. There's a bunch of good LWN articles on the subject: [url]https://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/#Scheduler[/url]

There's also an interesting HackerNews article on the subject: [url]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11501493[/url]

[Reflex F.N.]

Why isn't Ubuntu being downloaded from releases.ubuntu.com; rather, from this server? Is this an official Ubuntu releases server?
I know I am a bit paranoid, but after what happened with Linux Mint, I just feel like I should double check.

In any case, I will verify the ISO after downloading it.
[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/2gy3ot2.png[/IMG]

[Reflex F.N.]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50215128]It chooses your closet mirror.
Because I live in New Zealand my local mirror is this.
[img]https://chie.club/files/images/st/d8b72022-2750-4cbb-9cef-7e7fb49426f7.png[/img]

Of course you can go [URL="http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]All right, thank you for your help! :smile:

[Trafficman]

[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;50215140]All right, thank you for your help! :smile:[/QUOTE]

For further info on it, Cloudfront is Amazon's CDN which means that particular mirror is just hosted on AWS

[Sgt. Napalm]

What do you think would be better out of the box for an everyday user who wants to use KDE Plasma 5? Kubuntu or Debian testing?

[SocMinarch]

Kubuntu, more stable

[lavacano]

Also Kubuntu comes with KDE out of the box (dunno if it's Plasma 5 yet or not), unlike Debian, unless I missed something about their install process.

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=lavacano;50219498]Also Kubuntu comes with KDE out of the box (dunno if it's Plasma 5 yet or not), unlike Debian, unless I missed something about their install process.[/QUOTE]

You can download alternative flavors of Debian with support for various desktop environments, but unsurprisingly they're mostly focused on the stable versions.

[DrTaxi]

[QUOTE=lavacano;50219498]Also Kubuntu comes with KDE out of the box (dunno if it's Plasma 5 yet or not), unlike Debian, unless I missed something about their install process.[/QUOTE]

You can pick KDE during initial installation:

[quote=https://wiki.debian.org/KDE]
KDE Plasma Desktop task is what is installed by Debian-Installer's Desktop "task". You can choose this by going to "Advanced Options" => "Alternative Desktop Environments" => "KDE" in the installer menu (or by typing install desktop=kde at DebianInstaller CD prompt).[/quote]

[Sgt. Napalm]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50219506]You can download alternative flavors of Debian with support for various desktop environments, but unsurprisingly they're mostly focused on the stable versions.[/QUOTE]

Actually when I installed Debian with the netinstall, it asked me which DEs I wanted with my install, and let me select from Gnome, XFCE, KDE, and others. Like others have mentioned it's sticking with stable versions of KDE, so it's on KDE 4 something and I wanted to mess around with 5.

Debian testing is on KDE 5 though.

[Thelurker1234]

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50219167]What do you think would be better out of the box for an everyday user who wants to use KDE Plasma 5? Kubuntu or Debian testing?[/QUOTE]

There's also openSUSE, which also comes with a well-integrated KDE desktop and the YaST which makes a lot of jobs easy. Main downsides are that it comes with quite a bit of bloat (tho, kubuntu does too), and problems won't be as easily googleable, but the IRC is quite helpful if needed.

[QUOTE=sam6420;50219977]I was surprised Debian had included DE's. Such a neat-o feature.[/QUOTE]
The debian installer is pretty great. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGTs1NSB1s"]Linus Torvalds ought to try it![/URL]

Oh, also, I noticed a little mistake in the OP. It says that fedora is the open source version of RHEL, but it's really just the gratis/free of charge version of it. RHEL is open-source.

[SocMinarch]

I always thought that Fedora was like RHEL Public Beta

[DrTaxi]

[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;50220769]I always thought that Fedora was like RHEL Public Beta[/QUOTE]

That's more like it.

The closest thing to a totally free RHEL would be CentOS, which is mostly RHEL with the trademarks ripped out. They might have some additional patches, I'm not sure, but they're 100% compatible with binaries/packages for RHEL.

[Levelog]

CentOS is basically free RHEL with no enterprise support. Fedora is the testing distro, and is more workstation geared.

[editline]28th April 2016[/editline]

Also Fedora OP

[Sgt. Napalm]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50220422]There's also openSUSE, which also comes with a well-integrated KDE desktop and the YaST which makes a lot of jobs easy. Main downsides are that it comes with quite a bit of bloat (tho, kubuntu does too), and problems won't be as easily googleable, but the IRC is quite helpful if needed.

The debian installer is pretty great. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGTs1NSB1s"]Linus Torvalds ought to try it![/URL]

Oh, also, I noticed a little mistake in the OP. It says that fedora is the open source version of RHEL, but it's really just the gratis/free of charge version of it. RHEL is open-source.[/QUOTE]

I like apt though, so I'm trying to stay in the Debian family.

[editline]28th April 2016[/editline]

I wound up installing Kubuntu.

[TheBirdman]

augh
Does anybody know of a linux tool that can execute a command or script when a certain VU level is reached? Or maybe just a program or script that can do what Im trying to accomplish, being:
1: listen for any sound coming in through the mic jack
2: record to temp file
3: after the sound stops, playback the temp file, then delete it, and restart the script
Think electronic parrot.

I found someone who got pretty much the exact thing working, but its on a N900 and relies on a VU meter app to trigger it. [url]http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-91467.html[/url]