General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Larikang;50260349]Start X at Login is the only way to go IMHO. I find login managers obscenely complex considering that all they provide is something nice to look at for the three seconds it takes to log in. I honestly don't understand the point of them. In my experience Arch has three significant hurdles: the first is getting your first install working, the second is figuring out all the shit you actually did wrong during your first install, the final is figuring out how you actually want your computer to work now that you know Arch. I've been running Arch on my laptop for three years with [B]no bootloader[/B], no login manager, no desktop environment. It is wonderful.[/QUOTE] Being able to use straight efistub is fun

What are the advantages of not using a bootloader? Is there actually one or do you just do it for the fun of it?

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50260615]What are the advantages of not using a bootloader? Is there actually one or do you just do it for the fun of it?[/QUOTE] It's one less step between power button and work-ready and that's really important for some people, for some reason it's a reasonable option for when you don't intend on changing your kernel commandline much, but there aren't any tangible advantages to it on a regular desktop system [editline]4th May 2016[/editline] it's fucking great for embedded systems though

[QUOTE=Larikang;50260349]Start X at Login is the only way to go IMHO. I find login managers obscenely complex considering that all they provide is something nice to look at for the three seconds it takes to log in. I honestly don't understand the point of them. In my experience Arch has three significant hurdles: the first is getting your first install working, the second is figuring out all the shit you actually did wrong during your first install, the final is figuring out how you actually want your computer to work now that you know Arch. I've been running Arch on my laptop for three years with no bootloader, no login manager, no desktop environment. It is wonderful.[/QUOTE] If you've got multiple users it might be worth it because terminals are SCARY AS FUCK, never overestimate other users, a nice "click a name, enter password!" is more friendly. Also if you plan on ricing it, I've seen some amazing lightDMs done with webkit. [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50260615]What are the advantages of not using a bootloader? Is there actually one or do you just do it for the fun of it?[/QUOTE] Sometimes you just flat out don't need one. My laptop is pure linux, so I don't have to tweak dual booting or anything, and I've only ever had to play with kernel boot options when I was giving gentoo a spin

I'm using a login manager on my Linux laptop so I don't constantly get the question "ARE YOU A HACKER!!" from tech illiterate people who sees my locked computers' screen. Then they just think it's running pre-riced/pre-bloated Windows instead.

AFAIK you can use xscreensaver as a screen lock without a login manager.

[QUOTE=Larikang;50262517]AFAIK you can use xscreensaver as a screen lock without a login manager.[/QUOTE] Ah, thanks, I was considering grabbing a login manager anyway because I lock my screen frequently.

[QUOTE=Larikang;50262517]AFAIK you can use xscreensaver as a screen lock without a login manager.[/QUOTE] Actually used to do this on Xubuntu 12.04, even used it to auto-lock the very same splitsecond my user had automatically logged in. Which meant all my autostarting programs were running and I just had to log in. [I]BUUUT[/I] they cocked up xscreensaver somehow for 14.04, which might explain why it wasn't installed by default.

[QUOTE=Larikang;50262517]AFAIK you can use xscreensaver as a screen lock without a login manager.[/QUOTE] I think XFCE's screen locker can also work independently of a login manager only advantage I can think of over xscreensaver is xfce's locker uses a toolkit instead of straight X, so it doesn't look like ass

xlock doesn't require an LM. I use it on my laptop with i3wm.

I use a handcrafted i3lock script that [URL="https://github.com/meskarune/i3lock-fancy"]does something like this[/URL] xautolock in the background for starting the script after 10 minutes inactivity, and a ~/.xbindkeysrc config for locking it immediately through xautolock (with the XF86ScreenSaver key (Fn+F2 on my Thinkpad T420 laptop)) (not my screenshot) [t]https://raw.githubusercontent.com/meskarune/i3lock-fancy/master/screenshot.png[/t]

i3wm binding to lock it instantly when I want (Super+L), systemd service that systemd-logind uses to lock when inactivity timeout triggers.

[QUOTE=Larikang;50262517]AFAIK you can use xscreensaver as a screen lock without a login manager.[/QUOTE] Slock too, is quite nice and lighter than xscreensaver. But it is fun setting xscreensaver to be a kernel panic or BSOD

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50263777]Slock too, is quite nice and lighter than xscreensaver. [B]But it is fun setting xscreensaver to be a kernel panic or BSOD[/B][/QUOTE] GLmatrix, instant hacker cred among computer illiterates.

[QUOTE=Van-man;50263794]GLmatrix, instant hacker cred among computer illiterates.[/QUOTE] Try [url=http://hackertyper.net/]Hacker Typer[/url].

Hey, what is the best file sharing protocol I can use for my linux boxes? I need them to be mountable just like sshfs, but much faster over the internet. I tried using tricks with sshfs, using HPN and arcfour cipher but got nowhere. I tried setting webdav with SSL but I have trouble writing files to mounted filesystem, I even tried vsftpd with SSL and mounted it using curlftpfs and it got stuck and my machine froze. Not sure what kind of technology I'm after, but I want it Fast and a bit more secure than clear text. I would really appreciate suggestions!

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;50265226]Hey, what is the best file sharing protocol I can use for my linux boxes? I need them to be mountable just like sshfs, but much faster over the internet. I tried using tricks with sshfs, using HPN and arcfour cipher but got nowhere. I tried setting webdav with SSL but I have trouble writing files to mounted filesystem, I even tried vsftpd with SSL and mounted it using curlftpfs and it got stuck and my machine froze. Not sure what kind of technology I'm after, but I want it Fast and a bit more secure than clear text. I would really appreciate suggestions![/QUOTE] What's wrong with sshfs? You can even add it to your fstab.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;50265426]What's wrong with sshfs? You can even add it to your fstab.[/QUOTE] Slow, even when tweaking it to maximum I only get about 4MB/s. (yeah that's not enough for me lol)

Now, there's too major things I need doing. Getting audio working, and figuring out how to get WiFi to connect automatically on boot. [editline]5th May 2016[/editline] Well, that's audio knocked off the list.

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;50265532]Slow, even when tweaking it to maximum I only get about 4MB/s. (yeah that's not enough for me lol)[/QUOTE] Try nfs if your kernel supports it.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;50266426]Try nfs if your kernel supports it.[/QUOTE] NFS may be a bad idea if it should be open across the internet. I think FTP would be the best choice for a protocol that is fast, and atleast has some degree of security. With what distro did you use curlftpfs with? And did you get any error in your kernel log when it froze?

It's archlinux, Bash freezes after I successfully mount curlftpfs. Not sure why, root is unable to unmount these directories, whenever I open another tab and try to ls that folder bash freezes again.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50274526]Aight so on my Manjaro laptop I wanna install google-web designer. AUR package exists. Great. Dependences sound good. Except this libudev. [kiwi@ChieTecra ~]$ sudo pacman -S gconf gtk2 libudev warning: gconf-3.2.6-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: gtk2-2.24.30-1 is up to date -- reinstalling resolving dependencies... looking for conflicting packages... :: eudev and libsystemd are in conflict (libudev.so). Remove libsystemd? [y/N] n error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: eudev and libsystemd are in conflict If I was to confirm it with .Y pacman will STILL fail(which is great cause it will prevent breaking the system as everything is tied to systemd). I want to get around this but I want to install libudev in a way where I can have it there but not break anything else. I want it to install but I want it in it's own environment where it won't interfere with the system. TL;DR How the fuck do I get around libudev?[/QUOTE] Is it even a official google package?

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50274553]upstream url is the legit url for the web designer builds into the i386.deb package that would be offered by google as legit as i could tell you[/QUOTE] It's either old as hell (from the Debian Wheezy era or based on *buntu 14.04) [B]OR [/B]whoever's responsible for the AUR got a thing against the increasing forced dependency on SystemD.

I love these updates where it frees up disk space [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9c7QpdD.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Lyoko2;50269831]It's archlinux, Bash freezes after I successfully mount curlftpfs. Not sure why, root is unable to unmount these directories, whenever I open another tab and try to ls that folder bash freezes again.[/QUOTE] Sounds like it fails to connect proper, have you tried connecting and transferring files with a normal FTP client? Also, have you tried switching modes (active / passive)?

Man graphics drivers suck. Installing FreeBSD, and there's no amd drivers for my card. But nvidia has great FreeBSD support, but it's totally proprietary (though, they have neat freebsd specific features too.) Oh well, I'm going to finish compiling my DE and see how well vesa works. If not, gentoo for me. Shame because FreeBSD is so comfy

So I installed void linux today and I have to say: I like it a lot more than arch [editline]8th May 2016[/editline] There's a lot less fucking around but I don't even feel like I lost any of the control and customization

[QUOTE=LennyPenny;50277533]So I installed void linux today and I have to say: I like it a lot more than arch [editline]8th May 2016[/editline] There's a lot less fucking around but I don't even feel like I lost any of the control and customization[/QUOTE] Yeah, I've been loving void too. I might drop arch completely in favour of it. What do you mean by a lot less fucking around though?

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50256782]I think I might just man up and install Arch.[/QUOTE] It literally takes like 10 mins max.