General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=XeroG;50291466]I don't even think I dare to try and install another nVidia driver for Linux. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I've broken it every time on every distro I've tried it on. Are the default drivers any good for Fedora 23?[/QUOTE] Nouveau usually works okay for the desktop, just expect the performance to be relatively shit for games and such

[QUOTE=XeroG;50291466]I don't even think I dare to try and install another nVidia driver for Linux. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I've broken it every time on every distro I've tried it on. Are the default drivers any good for Fedora 23?[/QUOTE] Odd, never had an issue with proprietary drivers for fedora.

So on opensuse, with the same drivers I couldn't really get rid of screentearing with KDE. However, I installed gentoo with plasma and it's gone? Whatever, I'm happy. Maybe /g/ is onto something, gentoo might literally be the solution to any problem. also protip if you ever do gentoo and are brave enough to do your own kernel (it's not too hard), use systemrescuecd instead of the normal gentoo iso. It's really handy, especially the option that lets you boot your installation using the rescuecd's kernel easily. Saved me when I had broken modules hanging my system when I was booting

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50294275]So on opensuse, with the same drivers I couldn't really get rid of screentearing with KDE. However, I installed gentoo with plasma and it's gone? Whatever, I'm happy. Maybe /g/ is onto something, gentoo might literally be the solution to any problem. also protip if you ever do gentoo and are brave enough to do your own kernel (it's not too hard), use systemrescuecd instead of the normal gentoo iso. It's really handy, especially the option that lets you boot your installation using the rescuecd's kernel easily. Saved me when I had broken modules hanging my system when I was booting[/QUOTE] For some reason I could only install either gentoo and funtoo using systemrescuecd. Which is annoying since SSH needs configuring to work with that live environment, and that screen isn't installed by default.

[QUOTE=Van-man;50294415]For some reason I could only install either gentoo and funtoo using systemrescuecd. Which is annoying since SSH needs configuring to work with that live environment, and that screen isn't installed by default.[/QUOTE] You just need to change the password, enable root login (if not already enabled) and start SSH? I don't think anything else is really needed. Wasn't when I installed Funtoo yesterday anyway.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50294628]You just need to change the password, enable root login (if not already enabled) and start SSH? I don't think anything else is really needed. Wasn't when I installed Funtoo yesterday anyway.[/QUOTE] Guess I just am incredibly pampered by the fact all other live ISO's I've used had a boot option to enable just that (along with pre-defined root PW) [I]AND [/I]screen installed by default.

[QUOTE=Van-man;50294644]Guess I just am incredibly pampered by the fact all other live ISO's I've used had a boot option to enable just that (along with pre-defined root PW) [I]AND [/I]screen installed by default.[/QUOTE] That might just be it. Funtoo doesn't hold your hand, and sysresqcd is no different, being based on Gentoo and assuming the user knows exactly what they're doing.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50294696]That might just be it. Funtoo doesn't hold your hand, and sysresqcd is no different, being based on Gentoo and assuming the user knows exactly what they're doing.[/QUOTE] I know what I'm doing, it's just two simple things that still makes it all so much easier, especially not having to emerge screen. Meanwhile the live-iso's X environment has some crud installed that I refuse to believe comes in handy.

[QUOTE=Van-man;50294736]I know what I'm doing, it's just two simple things that still makes it all so much easier, especially not having to emerge screen. Meanwhile the live-iso's X environment has some crud installed that I refuse to believe comes in handy.[/QUOTE] I mean you don't have to use the system? If you're unhappy with sysresqcd, just use whatever you feel like? If it runs on your target architechture, and can connect to the internet (optional), you won't have any problems.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50294767]I mean you don't have to use the system? If you're unhappy with sysresqcd, just use whatever you feel like? If it runs on your target architechture, and can connect to the internet (optional), you won't have any problems.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Van-man;50294415][B]For some reason I could only install either gentoo and funtoo using systemrescuecd.[/B] Which is annoying since SSH needs configuring to work with that live environment, and that screen isn't installed by default.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50294795][/QUOTE] No, you can install it using other systems too. I guarantee it. What would be the problem you've gotten when you did it using another system?

[QUOTE=XeroG;50291466]I don't even think I dare to try and install another nVidia driver for Linux. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I've broken it every time on every distro I've tried it on. Are the default drivers any good for Fedora 23?[/QUOTE] I just install it from my package manager, and if that doesn't work, I run nvidia-xconfig and drop the result in as a replacement xorg.conf 95% success rate so far

I can't figure out OpenSUSE's firewall. I need to make an exception to allow Steam so I can use in-home streaming, and I can't figure out how. (I've already confirmed it was in-fact OpenSUSE's firewall preventing me from streaming.)

The only thing that worked for me was disabling the firewall, I never could get around that one

Eh, I can get away with disabling the firewall on my personal network.

Can also replace it with a fabulous one like pf or ufw, I can't stand using gui firewalls after these

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50303229]Can also replace it with a fabulous one like pf or ufw, I can't stand using gui firewalls after these[/QUOTE] Try firehol and you won't want to use anything else.

I tried setting up a Ubuntu 16.04 VM on my Windows desktop so I could have a comfortable development environment, but I had weird OpenGL acceleration issues (screen blanking weirdly etc.) with it. Installed Ubuntu MATE, works mostly fine. So it's just Unity being a massive piece of shit. Chromium (as in the web browser) manages to murder OpenGL acceleration weirdly, but Firefox works, so eh.

Speaking of Ubuntu 16.04, take a look at this take a fucking look at this [t]http://i.imgur.com/V9dJ5Kd.png[/t] do you see what I see it took systemd [B]! 6 [I]fucking[/I] minutes ![/B] to start in kernel and I wondered why it took so long to boot this live iso, with the harddisk spinning like crazy and no fucking output except the evergoing bootsplash

The kernel was probably decompressing something big into memory, before loading userspace.

gave Void a shot in a VM, that was pretty easy to install. not sure how I feel about the package manager though, xbps-install etc is an awful lot to write every time I want to install something or search the database. also a little tedious that there's different commands for a lot of the xbps tasks, like query, install, remove and so on. why not just put it all under 'xbps' and use flags instead? xbps doesn't really "write" in a good way either if you ask me. pacman is easy and fast to type, it rolls off the keyboard, but xbps doesn't really do that. also, for being so easy to install it sure as hell didn't configure something very important, actually enabling any repositories at all. I had to manually add the official one which I don't feel like I should, that should be covered by the install if you ask me I suppose aliases can fix all of this, but still a little tedious. not really liking runit that much either so far but I suppose that's because I'm very used to systemd by now. I'm not able to figure out how to enable the gdm service.

[QUOTE=PredGD;50310489]gave Void a shot in a VM, that was pretty easy to install. not sure how I feel about the package manager though, xbps-install etc is an awful lot to write every time I want to install something or search the database. also a little tedious that there's different commands for a lot of the xbps tasks, like query, install, remove and so on. why not just put it all under 'xbps' and use flags instead? xbps doesn't really "write" in a good way either if you ask me. pacman is easy and fast to type, it rolls off the keyboard, but xbps doesn't really do that. also, for being so easy to install it sure as hell didn't configure something very important, actually enabling any repositories at all. I had to manually add the official one which I don't feel like I should, that should be covered by the install if you ask me I suppose aliases can fix all of this, but still a little tedious. not really liking runit that much either so far but I suppose that's because I'm very used to systemd by now. I'm not able to figure out how to enable the gdm service.[/QUOTE] Tab/arrow completion can make it essentially like flags. Though for awhile, I would type in xbox-whatever, xbps is a bit of a pain of a name I agree. Not sure what happened for you with the repos, they "just werked" for me. It's just a guess, but did you not setup the network in the installer and rather installed from the cd? That could be it , tho i dunno The service might exist already, if not, you have to create it. Try looking through /etc/sv/ for gdm, and then you have to create a link with "ln -s /etc/sv/thingy /var/service" this may help if you need to make it [URL]http://smarden.org/runit/faq.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50310735]Tab/arrow completion can make it essentially like flags. Though for awhile, I would type in xbox-whatever, xbps is a bit of a pain of a name I agree. Not sure what happened for you with the repos, they "just werked" for me. It's just a guess, but did you not setup the network in the installer and rather installed from the cd? That could be it , tho i dunno The service might exist already, if not, you have to create it. Try looking through /etc/sv/ for gdm, and then you have to create a link with "ln -s /etc/sv/thingy /var/service" this may help if you need to make it [URL]http://smarden.org/runit/faq.html[/URL][/QUOTE] I configured the installer to download from the repositories instead of local so not sure why no repositories were added by default in the finished install. I tried that too, "sudo ln -s /etc/sv/gdm /var/service" which doesn't seem to work for some weird reason. the symlink isn't being created so I can't enable the service. gdm is in /etc/sv at least, but I just can't get it over to /var/service for some reason. [editline]13th May 2016[/editline] the AUR has spoiled me too much. "oh, the package isn't available in the repos? 'yaou--' oh. right." building from source, too time consuming :ohno:

Got my raspberry pi 3 yesterday and set it up with raspbian jessie, so far I don't get why most people say it's still too slow to use as a desktop PC. I mean sure, it's a lot slower than my older desktop, however it boots way faster, consumes less power and it's not even hearable, unlike my desktop, which outweights the performance issues for me. Actually it's just a matter of a few seconds in my eyes, I can easily live with that. Heck, I used a HTC Wildfire until last year. Now I'm curious how long it will take until I change my mind... :v:

[QUOTE=Torekk;50313295]Got my raspberry pi 3 yesterday and set it up with raspbian jessie, so far I don't get why most people say it's still too slow to use as a desktop PC. I mean sure, it's a lot slower than my older desktop, however it boots way faster, consumes less power and it's not even hearable, unlike my desktop, which outweights the performance issues for me. Actually it's just a matter of a few seconds in my eyes, I can easily live with that. Heck, I used a HTC Wildfire until last year. Now I'm curious how long it will take until I change my mind... :v:[/QUOTE] I've heard of people daily driving one. To be fair, most people use their computers as an internet browser / document preparation box so a pi would be adequate.

So last week I installed void linux on a 15yo thinkpad for no real reason other than wanting to try something different than arch Yesterday I was at a ccc meetup in my town and turns out the top 3 contributor is a regular there. Was a pretty awesome coincidence

[QUOTE=Torekk;50313295]Got my raspberry pi 3 yesterday and set it up with raspbian jessie, so far I don't get why most people say it's still too slow to use as a desktop PC. I mean sure, it's a lot slower than my older desktop, however it boots way faster, consumes less power and it's not even hearable, unlike my desktop, which outweights the performance issues for me. Actually it's just a matter of a few seconds in my eyes, I can easily live with that. Heck, I used a HTC Wildfire until last year. Now I'm curious how long it will take until I change my mind... :v:[/QUOTE] If you can get YouTube to play videos on that, that would be enough for me to use it as a workstation. But that's easy to say, being a system administrator and developer, because not a lot is needed in terms of hardware to perform that job.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;50318048]If you can get YouTube to play videos on that, that would be enough for me to use it as a workstation. But that's easy to say, being a system administrator and developer, because not a lot is needed in terms of hardware to perform that job.[/QUOTE] YouTube actually works quite well, atleast with chromium and a plugin called rpi-youtube, which is basically youtube-dl so it just loads the video and then plays it via omxplayer: [URL]https://kusti8.github.io/RPi-chromium/[/URL] Edit: The only downside is that omxplayer doesn't work with USB soundcards, which sucks if you got your Pi hooked up to a DVI monitor. But then again it's just a matter of plugging cables and a few clicks, can live with that.

[QUOTE=Torekk;50313295]Got my raspberry pi 3 yesterday and set it up with raspbian jessie, so far I don't get why most people say it's still too slow to use as a desktop PC. I mean sure, it's a lot slower than my older desktop, however it boots way faster, consumes less power and it's not even hearable, unlike my desktop, which outweights the performance issues for me. Actually it's just a matter of a few seconds in my eyes, I can easily live with that. Heck, I used a HTC Wildfire until last year. Now I'm curious how long it will take until I change my mind... :v:[/QUOTE] The 3 isn't too bad, though I also have the original Pi with 256MB of RAM and it was brutal to do any sort of browsing on.

Yeah it was still rough with the 2. Iirc the 3 has a greatly increased GPU so that's probably why.