General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Year of the Linux Desktop! - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=lavacano;50458339]well that doesn't look friendly is your cable OK? your ports?[/QUOTE]Ports are fine, I'm using a firewire card, I don't know good it is though. Ok so I swapped the firewire card with another one and now the Kino doesn't seem to have any issues, but OBS and Kdenlive still can't detect it. dmesg | tail comes up with the following: [code][ 12.526928] audit: type=1400 audit(1465115893.370:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session//chromium" pid=609 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 12.527522] audit: type=1400 audit(1465115893.370:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cups-browsed" pid=615 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 12.528391] audit: type=1400 audit(1465115893.374:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/ippusbxd" pid=617 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 12.528484] audit: type=1400 audit(1465115893.374:11): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=616 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 14.718589] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): enp4s0: link is not ready [ 14.910439] r8169 0000:04:00.0 enp4s0: link down [ 14.910484] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): enp4s0: link is not ready [ 91.737557] firewire_core 0000:02:00.0: phy config: new root=ffc1, gap_count=5 [ 91.747393] firewire_core 0000:02:00.0: phy config: new root=ffc1, gap_count=5 [ 92.244777] firewire_core 0000:02:00.0: created device fw1: GUID 0800460104ce4ebe, S [/code]

[QUOTE=Van-man;50445262]Might just be me, but I'm getting the impression it's gotten slightly worse.[/QUOTE]The new Ubuntu sc is frustratingly horrible. It is full of bugs. I honestly didn't like the new Ubuntu entirely; maybe it's just not compatible with my computer or something, because it kept breaking and freezing all the time, and I couldn't find the reason why. I recently moved to Linux Mint and I have never been happier. I find the Software Manager installed on Linux Mint to be pretty awesome. I mainly use apt-get, though.

Linux Mint is a weird frankenmonster[1] of a distro and has one of the worst track records for security: it still doesn't use TLS for the ISO file[2], the download section only has an md5 hash of the ISO[3], corresponding GPG signatures aren't available for ISOs[4], security updates are marked untrusted by default[5], oh yeah, and did I mention that the LM website was hacked to deliver malware ISOs[6,7]? [1] Uses Ubuntu and LM repositories [2,3,4] [url]https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=204[/url] [5] [url]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11143253[/url] [6] [url]http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994[/url] [7] their database info was: $dbname = 'lms14'; $dbuser = 'lms14'; $dbpasswd = 'upMint';

[QUOTE=HueyFreeman;50475387]Linux Mint is a weird frankenmonster[1] of a distro and has one of the worst track records for security: it still doesn't use TLS for the ISO file[2], the download section only has an md5 hash of the ISO[3], corresponding GPG signatures aren't available for ISOs[4], security updates are marked untrusted by default[5], oh yeah, and did I mention that the LM website was hacked to deliver malware ISOs[6,7]? [1] Uses Ubuntu and LM repositories [2,3,4] [url]https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=204[/url] [5] [url]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11143253[/url] [6] [url]http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994[/url] [7] their database info was: $dbname = 'lms14'; $dbuser = 'lms14'; $dbpasswd = 'upMint';[/QUOTE] They know how to fix Canonical's shit, but they can't fix their own.

That one mistake by Manjaro about forgetting to renew the certificates pales in comparison to that, holy shit.

[QUOTE=FPtje;50476510]That one mistake by Manjaro about forgetting to renew the certificates pales in comparison to that, holy shit.[/QUOTE] "one time" Two times, one just a couple of months ago. [URL="https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0474/32/1428572961568.png"]1[/URL] [URL="https://manjaro.github.io/SSL-Certificate-Expired/"]2[/URL] Pretty hilarious because letsencrypt has a renewel period of 60 days.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50476573]"one time" Two times, one just a couple of months ago. [URL="https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0474/32/1428572961568.png"]1[/URL] [URL="https://manjaro.github.io/SSL-Certificate-Expired/"]2[/URL] Pretty hilarious because letsencrypt has a renewel period of 60 days.[/QUOTE] Oh they forgot to renew the certificate of their website? I thought they had forgotten to renew the certificate(s) of their update servers, forcing you to put back the date not to look at a website, but to actually update your system. It's sloppy, but unlike Mint, there was no immediate risk of being compromised.

It's possible that your motd hasn't been updated, see this: [url]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-motd/+bug/766827[/url] I mean, that issue should be fixed by now, but worth a try...

Recently did a fresh install of W10 and made it dualboot with Kubuntu. It's nice, although scrolling kinda sucks (smooth scrolling seems to be a feature request for the past 10 years...) and for fucks sake the audio players are all terrible. Tried Clementine (doesn't see other partitions to add music), Amarok (something I can't remember that put me off), Audacious (can't sort by clicking on the column, for real??) and Banshee (eh tried it multiple times it never stuck). Nothing seems to come close to Musicbee :( For the rest it's great, it's really fast. [Editline]June 8th[/Editline] There's a lot more out there apparently, gonna keep looking. Lollypop looks neat.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50476573]"one time" Two times, one just a couple of months ago. [URL="https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0474/32/1428572961568.png"]1[/URL] [URL="https://manjaro.github.io/SSL-Certificate-Expired/"]2[/URL] Pretty hilarious because letsencrypt has a renewel period of 60 days.[/QUOTE] 90 days, but the renewal can be automated in a bunch of ways that take less than 1 minute to set up, even if you don't really know a whole lot about what you're doing.

I have a @weekly cronjob that refreshes my certs.

[QUOTE=nikomo;50477661]I have a @weekly cronjob that refreshes my certs.[/QUOTE] I just use virtualmin, and let it handle the shit. It does a good job at it too.

[QUOTE=Number-41;50477166]Recently did a fresh install of W10 and made it dualboot with Kubuntu. It's nice, although scrolling kinda sucks (smooth scrolling seems to be a feature request for the past 10 years...) and for fucks sake the audio players are all terrible. Tried Clementine (doesn't see other partitions to add music), Amarok (something I can't remember that put me off), Audacious (can't sort by clicking on the column, for real??) and Banshee (eh tried it multiple times it never stuck). Nothing seems to come close to Musicbee :( For the rest it's great, it's really fast. [Editline]June 8th[/Editline] There's a lot more out there apparently, gonna keep looking. Lollypop looks neat.[/QUOTE] Try deadbeef. Also foobar in wine.

I love how when you look up error messages from raspbian on Google and then you find posts on the raspberrypi.org forums which basically go like "just ignore those warnings", gives you a good feeling when you don't know that much about linux.

[QUOTE=Torekk;50478309]I love how when you look up error messages from raspbian on Google and then you find posts on the raspberrypi.org forums which basically go like "just ignore those warnings", gives you a good feeling when you don't know that much about linux.[/QUOTE] You can always ask in here, chances are someone knows what's up.

anyone here with yabar experience? I've finally got a bar setup using yabar (modified someone elses script to fit my setup) and it seems to work fine. however, if I open Steam or Spotify (possibly other programs, but these are the only ones I've found), the bar will instantly crash. [code]fish: 'yabar' terminated by signal SIGSEGV (Address boundary error)[/code] this was caused by me launching Spotify. anyone got any clue what this is about?

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50488185]is there a linux tool that can watch a folder and on a command (needs to wait for items to appear and can't just randomly act on them), depending on the type of file, either unrar it to a destination or copy it to a destination? [editline]9th June 2016[/editline] but in the process of unrarring/moving them it has to keep some of the same folder path say for example it's /baz/bar/test.rar, when it unrars it, it needs to be /foo/bar/test.file ditto for copying /baz/deadbeef/test.file needs to be /foo/deadbeef/test/file[/QUOTE] quoting because also linux i'm [I]willing[/I] to write a shell script for this, i'd just prefer not to

I could possibly think of a way but it would be really badly written and would require Mono

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50488226]quoting because also linux i'm [I]willing[/I] to write a shell script for this, i'd just prefer not to[/QUOTE] This is [I]exactly[/I] the sort of thing you're expected to write a shell script for. file(1) can guess the type of a certain file you give it, or alternatively you can just always try unrarring it and copy only if that's not possible.

So I found this snippet of code on a site which is about slimming down raspbian, [URL="https://blog.samat.org/2015/02/05/slimming-an-existing-raspbian-install/"]this one to be specific.[/URL] And then there's this: [code]dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs dpkg --purge[/code] I mean I understand what dpkg --list does, also I know that grep "^rc" basically means that it only shows packages which were removed, but not purged, but I still don't quite get what cut does. And I know that the last time I've run a command like that, I ended up with a wrong lxde configuration and basically reflashed the raspbian image. So far I only purged packages that I sure know I installed on my own. Edit: Nevermind, using "man cut" solved the mystery. Guess it does the same for xargs. Edit 2: It did. And this time I didn't end up with a broken lxde config. Also while I'm at it, I just noticed before I did this, screenfetch showed me under shell something like ~7000, now it's at 994. What does that mean?

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50489740]This is [I]exactly[/I] the sort of thing you're expected to write a shell script for. file(1) can guess the type of a certain file you give it, or alternatively you can just always try unrarring it and copy only if that's not possible.[/QUOTE] ended up writing a shell script for it actually does exactly what i wanted [editline]10th June 2016[/editline] it was a lot of grep and variable expansion but it works beautifully so whatever

[QUOTE=Number-41;50477166]Tried Clementine (doesn't see other partitions to add music)[/QUOTE] The shit? Worked fine for me. Where were you looking? I think the option to change library folder is buried in some obscure part of the settings, but it's certainly there. Failing that, get wine (preferably wine-staging) and throw MusicBee in that if all else fails, or foobar2000 if even that fails. I bet it would work.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50491549]ended up writing a shell script for it actually does exactly what i wanted [editline]10th June 2016[/editline] it was a lot of grep and variable expansion but it works beautifully so whatever[/QUOTE] If you don't know about it already, inotify-watch. That's all. Read about it, give it a shot, and see if it's something you like.

I didn't even get that email, lame.

It just occurred to me, I miss that feeling of wonder I had when I first discovered there were other operating systems I could run besides Windows. Playing around on a fresh Linux installation was just so cool when you didn't know what anything did yet.

[QUOTE=elevate;50501730]It just occurred to me, I miss that feeling of wonder I had when I first discovered there were other operating systems I could run besides Windows. Playing around on a fresh Linux installation was just so cool when you didn't know what anything did yet.[/QUOTE] It's all so enchanting until you come to the realization that each distro is basically 99% the same, with just defaults, package manager, repos, and sometimes init scheme are noticeably different barring certain extremists like nixOS and perhaps gentoo. Though that's also a good thing, that you can sit down at any Linux after learning one and know what you're doing pretty well. No need for this shit [IMG]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tar.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50503036][IMG]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tar.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] tar -xzvf that-archlinux-package.tar.xz I don't have any other use for tar Anyway, is there any functional OS that's doesn't try to be *nix yet isn't templeOS or windows on i386?

[QUOTE=ichiman94;50504157] Anyway, is there any functional OS that's doesn't try to be *nix yet isn't templeOS or windows on i386?[/QUOTE] Haiku?

[QUOTE=ichiman94;50504157]tar -xzvf that-archlinux-package.tar.xz I don't have any other use for tar Anyway, is there any functional OS that's doesn't try to be *nix yet isn't templeOS or windows on i386?[/QUOTE] IIRC, the comic is more talking about tar was a pain in the ass with old UNIXes where it'd be different on each of them. Though ofc I haven't used any of those old vendor UNIXes so that explanation may have been BS. When talking about functional OSes I can't quite think of anything that isn't at least similar to Unix. Even Windows is pretty close. Haiku and OpenVMS are probably the closest thing to a non-unix that you can install and use. Though, they still aren't terribly far off. Perhaps also MorphOS can be thrown in there. When talking about experimental operating systems it gets interesting though, with things like Microsoft's singularity and phantomOS. You can technically download and run singularity but you can't really do much.

Anyone know the best linux distro best for running simulations? I'm doing physics research with a professor over the summer, and the entire department uses linux, and after using it in the labs for a while its pretty nice. For me, gnuplot and the terminal being built right into the OS seems great. Whats the best distro for running simulations/science/programming?