• CIPWTTKT&GC V0x0F (v15): Scoot and Deeps Drama Diaries
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[img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q1[/img][img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q2[/img][img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q3[/img] yeah
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;31470353]Slippy will forever be annoying Also the Arwing looks fine to me, guess I'm just not picky[/QUOTE] Yeah never mind the Arwings look like the Nintendo 64 version actually. I guess I should break out the old N64 to refresh my memory.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;31470287] An AGP mobo? I had one of those. 7 years ago.[/QUOTE] Are you implying that motherboards with AGP slots are hard to find? [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=kaine123;31470825][img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q1[/img][img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q2[/img][img]http://up.sur-la-toile.com/i4Q3[/img] yeah[/QUOTE] I remember seeing this on MSN years ago :buddy:
[QUOTE=gman003-main;31470470]Dude, I still have a mobo that's all ISA and PCI slots. It's actually got some really cool stuff. The entire expansion card area (including the part of the case you screw the faceplates into) is on a daughterboard. Pull it out, put in whatever cards you want, slide the whole thing back in. The PSU is cool, too - it's mounted on a swiveling part of the case. Open the side panel, pull out the PCI/ISA daughterboard and flip the PSU up, and it's the roomiest case I've ever used. Too bad it's also the oldest one I have. Slot-1 Pentium II processor? No thanks. I wish they had more motherboard/case systems like that, though. Update that for modern interfaces (and update the look to something besides "business beige"), and it would be awesome.[/QUOTE] The frankencomp has ISA slots, one of which is used by the Sound blaster card :buddy:
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31469472]I know that. Shadaez flashed his BIOS like, 4 times trying to overclock it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Darkebrz;31468800]Hey kids. This is why you don't repeatedly flash your GPU BIOS trying to overclock![/QUOTE] flashing the gpu bios has nothing to do with it, that all went very smoothly, it's just the MOSFETs on my card aparently didn't include heatsinks that nvidia have on their reference design, so the easy-to-reach overclocks others have posted weren't a good idea. But I'm thinking it's my motherboard as well now, I tried a new PSU and it still wouldn't even post, now, and apparently ASRock sucks and only do RMA to retailers, so they say to RMA through them, and Newegg won't accept RMA after 30 days. yay
Can anyone tell me how the hell you download Sparkbrowser?
[QUOTE=Warship;31471737]Can anyone tell me how the hell you download Sparkbrowser?[/QUOTE] Can you tell us WHY the hell you want to download Sparkbrowser?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;31471823]Can you tell us WHY the hell you want to download Sparkbrowser?[/QUOTE] To see if that gay ass thing will run on his frankencomp. Wait. What the fuck? There is no download link ANYWHERE.
[QUOTE=nikomo;31465753]D5/7. [/QUOTE] B10/1, B10/2, B10/3, B9/19, B9/20, B9/21 is where me and my firends are at. We haven't yet figured out who takes wich spot. :d
I also want a better browser than IE5, but FF nor Chrome werk [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] Better as in actually being able to render pages properly :v:
[QUOTE=tratzzz;31471884]To see if that gay ass thing will run on his frankencomp. Wait. What the fuck? There is no download link ANYWHERE.[/QUOTE] You probably have to pay $10 for that piece of malware which keylogs your activity.
[img]http://gyazo.com/cfb132818701efd4f9a6948216745f28.png[/img] wat
[url]http://sparkbrowser.com/sparkbrowser.html[/url] "Download here!" WHERE IS HERE
[video=youtube;00gAbgBu8R4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4&hd=1[/video] Mind = Blown.
[QUOTE=Warship;31472399][url]http://sparkbrowser.com/sparkbrowser.html[/url] "Download here!" WHERE IS HERE[/QUOTE] Be thankful, your computer is safe for now.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;31472678][video=youtube;00gAbgBu8R4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4&hd=1[/video] Mind = Blown.[/QUOTE] If that thing is real, the problem I see is it would take a very, very large amount of time to construct a world with that. I imagine that some things must be generated automatically.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;31472678][video=youtube;00gAbgBu8R4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4&hd=1[/video] Mind = Blown.[/QUOTE] I want to believe.
[QUOTE=nikomo;31472938]If that thing is real, the problem I see is it would take a very, very large amount of time to construct a world with that. I imagine that some things must be generated automatically.[/QUOTE] They can make things with lots of Polygons and convert it apparently.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;31472678][video=youtube;00gAbgBu8R4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4&hd=1[/video] Mind = Blown.[/QUOTE] Hang on, is this that old "point cloud" system that got majorly hyped last year? Yeah, I called bullshit on it then and I'm calling bullshit on it now. ANY company claiming to have "unlimited" power is full of crap and lying. It's literally impossible. Now, they could potentially figure out an efficient search algorithm and a better rendering system. That will STILL never give you "unlimited" power - just more efficient. If they were advertising even just as "massive breakthrough in point-cloud rendering technology", they might be believable. If they produced actual code, or did a real-time demo, I might be more inclined to believe them. But if all they've got to show YET AGAIN is more stuff that could EASILY be pre-rendered, they're a scam. Undoubtedly. They're a scam. They're producing nice, shiny, attention-grabbing trailers and demos, but have yet to publish any sort of info on their algorithm, and they have yet to produce a real-time demonstration. They're just taking investor money, buying whores and cocaine, and shitting out another pre-rendered trailer every time the whores-and-cocaine fund gets low.
Another thing is, if it was "unlimited" it wouldn't need any processing power :v:
in other news, [url]http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/07/29/217253/Chinese-Firm-Launches-Cloud-Based-Mobile-OS[/url] "China-based company Alibaba looks to take on the might of Apple and Google with a cloud-based operating system. According to the company, its Aliyun OS will be based on the Linux kernel, and will also be compatible with Android apps. Launched alongside the K-Touch Cloud-Smart Phone W700, Alibaba is hoping that a 0% slice of developer profits will encourage adoption, and says it hopes manufacturers will take the platform to global markets."
[QUOTE=Warship;31471737]Can anyone tell me how the hell you download Sparkbrowser?[/QUOTE] Didn't some guys report him for pirated Adobe/Virtual Studio .NET? In that case he might have been forced to take the link off..
A comment from their first video. "Well, if this island is made of 21 billion "atoms", then each of these will have to be stored whith a position-data, propably float values with 4 bytes. That means for all 3 dimensions: 21billion atoms*4*3=252billion bytes -> 252GB in storage,* which is massive." Just the position of each atom in that island would require more RAM then anything in the world has. This isn't even counting the storing of color, lighting, textures, etc. I have no clue how to calculate this exactly, but this would require, what, tens of thousands more RAM then we have access to? [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] somebody who knows how should calculate this
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31473690]Just the position of each atom in that island would require more RAM then anything in the world has.[/QUOTE] If that's referencing to the 250GB figure, then wrong.
[url=http://www.techpowerup.com/149920/ASUS-Ready-with-HD-6770-DirectCu-Silent-Graphics-Card.html]"Asus ready with HD 6770 DirectCu Silent graphics card"[/url] [thumb]http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-08-01/6a.jpg[/thumb] Really? A passively cooled 6770? 3 slots? This is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=nikomo;31473779]If that's referencing to the 250GB figure, then wrong.[/QUOTE] It would require much more then 250 GB.
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31473690] somebody who knows how should calculate this[/QUOTE] Gman's ears must be burning right now.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;31473172]Hang on, is this that old "point cloud" system that got majorly hyped last year? Yeah, I called bullshit on it then and I'm calling bullshit on it now. ANY company claiming to have "unlimited" power is full of crap and lying. It's literally impossible. Now, they could potentially figure out an efficient search algorithm and a better rendering system. That will STILL never give you "unlimited" power - just more efficient. If they were advertising even just as "massive breakthrough in point-cloud rendering technology", they might be believable. If they produced actual code, or did a real-time demo, I might be more inclined to believe them. But if all they've got to show YET AGAIN is more stuff that could EASILY be pre-rendered, they're a scam. Undoubtedly. They're a scam. They're producing nice, shiny, attention-grabbing trailers and demos, but have yet to publish any sort of info on their algorithm, and they have yet to produce a real-time demonstration. They're just taking investor money, buying whores and cocaine, and shitting out another pre-rendered trailer every time the whores-and-cocaine fund gets low.[/QUOTE] This. Their technology is impressive but it's really nothing new per se. Point clouds would probably be used widely if there was a method that didn't require a shitload of computations and RAM. And even more importantly, graphics hardware isn't built for this. It requires a major breakthrough by [B]one or several major companies[/B] to make nVIDIA and AMD even consider implementing this in GPUs. They'd need a major RAM-up even if the point cloud was streamed from the HDD on-the-fly and you would need to stream it [B]all the time[/B]. Even with a SSD the bus would probably be a bottleneck. tl;dr it's cool, the tech is real, but it's unusable because it requires hilarious amounts of processing and RAM
[QUOTE=Nr Dick;31473901][url=http://www.techpowerup.com/149920/ASUS-Ready-with-HD-6770-DirectCu-Silent-Graphics-Card.html]"Asus ready with HD 6770 DirectCu Silent graphics card"[/url] [thumb]http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-08-01/6a.jpg[/thumb] Really? A passively cooled 6770? 3 slots? This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] There's a passively cooled 6850.
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31473690]A comment from their first video. "Well, if this island is made of 21 billion "atoms", then each of these will have to be stored whith a position-data, propably float values with 4 bytes. That means for all 3 dimensions: 21billion atoms*4*3=252billion bytes -> 252GB in storage,* which is massive." Just the position of each atom in that island would require more RAM then anything in the world has. This isn't even counting the storing of color, lighting, textures, etc. I have no clue how to calculate this exactly, but this would require, what, tens of thousands more RAM then we have access to? [editline]1st August 2011[/editline] somebody who knows how should calculate this[/QUOTE] 21 billion points. Storing a position for each on any reasonable scale would take 96 bits (12 bytes). That's three 32-bit integers - X, Y and Z. Storing color information (RGBA, diffuse and specular) would take another 64 bits (8 bytes) - two 32-bit integers. So that's 20 bytes per point, just for static rendering. 21 billion points at 20 bytes/point would be 391 gigabytes of memory (the numbers are a bit weird, since memory is measured using base-2 units, not base-10 units). Now, I'll assume that this is compressed somehow. Usually, you can't compress real data below 20% or so without using a lossy format (that's using LZMA compression, by the way, same thing 7Zip uses). But lossless compression like that will only bring that down to ~80GB. Which is vaguely plausible for storing on-disk, and then keeping only the needed points in RAM. But that would need some very impressive coding. Carmack might be able to pull it off, but I'd bet against any newcomers being able to do it. So lossy compression becomes more likely. JPEG normally can compress data down to 5% its normal size without significant degradation. That brings it down to a mere 19.5GB of data. Which is still only plausible for on-disk storage, barring some sudden, massive increase in RAM density and a corresponding drop in price. And you'd still need a hefty chunk of RAM for storing the on-screen points - 8GB of RAM will hold under half a billion points, about 2% of their "island". So yeah, unless they've simultaneously revolutionized both rendering and compression, they're faking. I'll try to crunch some numbers, see how many GFLOPS you'd need to render that many points, to disprove them twice over.
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