• CIPWTTKT&GC V0x0F (v15): Scoot and Deeps Drama Diaries
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[QUOTE=TehWhale;31612873]look at me, i scream windows user because if it doesn't have instructions to install an application i can't do it!!!!!!!![/QUOTE] It does seem strange that a corporation so bound on not letting it's customers do anything themselfs makes this the way to install a program.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31612873]look at me, i scream windows user because if it doesn't have instructions to install an application i can't do it!!!!!!!![/QUOTE] I open an exe in windows, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .deb in Debian, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .apk in Android, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .dmg in OSX, it just fucking sits there.
There is a massive amount of OSes, and, AFAIK, apple is the only one that has you drag something into a folder to install it. It's dumb and it is unconventional. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TehWhale;31612873]look at me, i scream windows user because if it doesn't have instructions to install an application i can't do it!!!!!!!![/QUOTE] not using mac != Windows user, I have never heard of any other OS doing that.
[QUOTE=chrishind10;31612966]I open an exe in windows, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .deb in Debian, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .apk in Android, oh fucking wow, it installs. I open a .dmg in OSX, it just fucking sits there.[/QUOTE] Except .dmg isn't an "installer" file. It's a "disk image" file. Better analogy: I open a .zip in Windows, it doesn't automatically install. I open a .tgz in Linux, it doesn't automatically install. I open a .dmg in OS X, it doesn't automatically install. PS: When you double-click a .dmg, the default action is to mount it, just like an .iso.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31612873]look at me, i scream windows user because if it doesn't have instructions to install an application i can't do it!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]you scream moron tbh there's a reason there's no click and drag in windows and linux installers.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31613082]you scream moron tbh there's a reason there's no click and drag in windows and linux installers.[/QUOTE]oh no a disc image doesn't do everything for me!! wahhh!!
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31613112]oh no a disc image doesn't do everything for me!! wahhh!![/QUOTE] Oh it's a disc image, nevermind then.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;31612978]There is a massive amount of OSes, and, AFAIK, apple is the only one that has you drag something into a folder to install it. It's dumb and it is unconventional. [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] not using mac != Windows user, I have never heard of any other OS doing that.[/QUOTE]I've used every major release of windows, almost every mainstream linux distro (and a few less mainstream ones), beos, haiku, minix, plan9, and a dozen other operating systems and OS X is the only one where I've ever had to click and drag anything to install a program [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TehWhale;31613112]oh no a disc image doesn't do everything for me!! wahhh!![/QUOTE]the installer is packed inside the disk image, again I shouldn't have to click and drag anything
[QUOTE=gman003-main;31613028]Except .dmg isn't an "installer" file. It's a "disk image" file. Better analogy: I open a .zip in Windows, it doesn't automatically install. I open a .tgz in Linux, it doesn't automatically install. I open a .dmg in OS X, it doesn't automatically install. PS: When you double-click a .dmg, the default action is to mount it, just like an .iso.[/QUOTE] Okay, that still makes no real sense. Why are Mac OS apps distributed in a format used for storing files rather than a (conventional) installer? There's a reason for this, but you've probably never heard it. [IMG]http://02d9656.netsoljsp.com/SarcMark/images/graphics/rk.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31613183]I've used every major release of windows, almost every mainstream linux distro (and a few less mainstream ones), beos, haiku, minix, plan9, and a dozen other operating systems and OS X is the only one where I've ever had to click and drag anything to install a program [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] the installer is packed inside the disk image, again I shouldn't have to click and drag anything[/QUOTE]no it's not, there's no "installer" for anything in OS X, you get a dmg or an archive and you drag it to your application folder
Oh if i had the money...And the time...and know how....and 24 SSD's...And purple hair [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31613327]no it's not, there's no "installer" for anything in OS X, you get a dmg or an archive and you drag it to your application folder[/QUOTE] Treating a program like any jpeg you have laying around really doesn't sound like a good idea.
If I were to make an application for OS X here's how I would make the DMG file (whatever the fuck it's purpose is). You have a UI with two things on it. The program icon and a button that says "Click here to copy into Applications". Guess what that button does? Uses file copy calls built into OS X to copy that program into Applications. Don't want it in Applications? Drag the program icon somewhere else, just like every other application.
If I were to make an application for OS X, here's how I would do it. You open the program. It tells you to stop being a fucking retard and then it tells you to either install Windows 7, Linux distro of the user's choosing, FreeBSD or Hurd. After installation, the user may install the program as usual.
[QUOTE=nikomo;31614207]If I were to make an application for OS X, here's how I would do it. You open the program. It tells you to stop being a fucking retard and then it tells you to either install Windows 7, Linux distro of the user's choosing, FreeBSD or Hurd. After installation, the user may install the program as usual.[/QUOTE]why would anyone install hurd on a system they plan on doing anything on?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31614294]why would anyone install hurd on a system they plan on doing anything on?[/QUOTE] because their name is richard stallman
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31614294]why would anyone install hurd on a system they plan on doing anything on?[/QUOTE] I remember it was you a while back who defended the fuck out of Minix. Changed your mind, I see.
sco had a legit case linux is infringing on their copyright Wait, who flipped the stupid-switch on for a second
[QUOTE=wingless;31614339]I remember it was you a while back who defended the fuck out of Minix. Changed your mind, I see.[/QUOTE]hurd is not minix. hurd is not related to minix. hurt shares no code with minix. hurd isn't ready for desktops. Minix has been ready for desktops for 20 years and the only reason Linux caught on instead of Minix is that Minix originally wasn't free
[QUOTE=nikomo;31614333]because their name is richard stallman[/QUOTE] Even Stallman considers HURD a failure, unfit for usage.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31614419]hurd is not minix. hurd is not related to minix. hurt shares no code with minix. hurd isn't ready for desktops. Minix has been ready for desktops for 20 years and the only reason Linux caught on instead of Minix is that Minix originally wasn't free[/QUOTE] Minix is a useful as hurd right now, is what I'm getting at. I'm sure if it had more support it would be much more usable. But right now there is just no one using it, no packages, no fancy distros, changes, applications.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31614294]why would anyone install hurd on a system they plan on doing anything on?[/QUOTE] hurd will do more than osx will ever do
[QUOTE=gman003-main;31614442]Even Stallman considers HURD a failure, unfit for usage.[/QUOTE] That's what he lets the public know so he can keep Hurd to himself.
[QUOTE=wlzshroom;31614479]hurd does more than osx will ever do[/QUOTE] Well HURD, like Linux, is just a kernel. OSX however is a full Operating System, has corporate support and all that jazz. But if you do want to check out HURD, grab Arch Hurd, or Debian Hurd.
Hurd durp?
[QUOTE=wingless;31614530]Well HURD, like Linux, is just a kernel. OSX however is a full Operating System, has corporate support and all that jazz. But if you do want to check out HURD, grab Arch Hurd, or Debian Hurd.[/QUOTE]if you have one of the 3 hardware configurations that are supported by Hurd come on at least Minix has USB support [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] really Minix is only about 8 years behind Linux in terms of software support (quantity, not versions), and all it takes to get past that is a few people willing to compile things
reapaninja banned me from chat for saying this: 4:49 PM - ~~~shroom~~~ [high][smokeweede]: i wanna make a life sized woman sculpture made completely out of marshmallows [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] why
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;31613551]Oh if i had the money...And the time...and know how....and 24 SSD's...And purple hair [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&feature=player_detailpage[/media][/QUOTE] It's all fun and games until about one week when one of the SSD's fail and the whole array becomes useless.
[QUOTE=wlzshroom;31614702] why[/QUOTE] Someones fetish
[QUOTE=wlzshroom;31614702]reapaninja banned me from chat for saying this: 4:49 PM - ~~~shroom~~~ [high][smokeweede]: i wanna make a life sized woman sculpture made completely out of marshmallows [editline]8th August 2011[/editline] why[/QUOTE] Marshmallow pony buttholes.
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