• CIPWTTKT&GC V0x0F (v15): Scoot and Deeps Drama Diaries
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[QUOTE=wlzshroom;30968447]it's because awfulvision, i used it then it annoyed the shit out of me when i was reading nethack logs when some lucky placement got turned into a smily face so i uninstalled it [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] :ninja:[/QUOTE] Just disable it and enable it sometimes. I wish I could enable it only on FP or just remove :D, :) and such smilies. They fuckin annoy me in FB,
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30968217][url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/07/iphone-4-slr-mount-lets-you-shoot-5-megapixel-photos-with-your/#disqus_thread[/url] The one that buys this needs to be kicked in the groin. Total waste.[/QUOTE] Eh, the accessory is only $190, so it's not [i]that[/i] big of a waste if you already own the lens. Although why you wouldn't just use your high-end camera I don't know.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1088699-Some-questions-on-this-Core-i5-2500k-build?p=30968793&viewfull=1#post30968793[/url] Toasted.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30968217][url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/07/iphone-4-slr-mount-lets-you-shoot-5-megapixel-photos-with-your/#disqus_thread[/url] The one that buys this needs to be kicked in the groin. Total waste.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/38Ij7.png[/img]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30968217][url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/07/iphone-4-slr-mount-lets-you-shoot-5-megapixel-photos-with-your/#disqus_thread[/url] The one that buys this needs to be kicked in the groin. Total waste.[/QUOTE] I don't see the point of having professional photography accessories for mediocre phone cameras, especially something that lets you mount lens' that cost more than the damn phone itself.
Ultra hipster photography
[QUOTE=Brt5470;30968872][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1088699-Some-questions-on-this-Core-i5-2500k-build?p=30968793&viewfull=1#post30968793[/url] Toasted.[/QUOTE] In my opinion, you're not totally right. OP asks for extreme performance, but in my opinion you should never throw a thousand after two GPUs (you are certainly in your right to do so, though), as the next generation will outperform them for less money, power and heat.
[QUOTE=Warship;30969260]Ultra hipster photography[/QUOTE] Most hipsters I've seen just use one of those iPhone "retro camera" apps they paid 99c for.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969276]In my opinion, you're not totally right. OP asks for extreme performance, but in my opinion you should never throw a thousand after two GPUs (you are certainly in your right to do so, though), as the next generation will outperform them for less money, power and heat.[/QUOTE] My point is that he was throwing his opinion in the mix to say I was wrong when I have cards similar to what Smoot was looking to buy. The next generation is always out performing for less money, power and heat. How is this situation different? Besides, fermi was delayed to Q1. If he wants to wait, fine. But that has nothing to do with what he thinks is enough for him, versus myself giving him specific advice on which of the high end cards to consider. I told him he could get two 2.5gb 570's but he insists on 'maximum performance'. At that point, I don't argue with what he wants.
[QUOTE=agentgamma;30969410]Most hipsters I've seen just use one of those iPhone "retro camera" apps they paid 99c for.[/QUOTE] I'm not a hipster. :colbert: I use Hipstamatic all the time.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;30969432]My point is that he was throwing his opinion in the mix to say I was wrong when I have cards similar to what Smoot was looking to buy. The next generation is always out performing for less money, power and heat. How is this situation different? Besides, fermi was delayed to Q1. If he wants to wait, fine. But that has nothing to do with what he thinks is enough for him, versus myself giving him specific advice on which of the high end cards to consider. I told him he could get two 2.5gb 570's but he insists on 'maximum performance'. At that point, I don't argue with what he wants.[/QUOTE] My point is that if he buys the most expensive card available to him, he's using alot of money on something that will be outdated very fast. And if he's going for SLI GTX 580, why not get a GTX 590 instead: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130630&cm_re=GTX_590-_-14-130-630-_-Product[/url] It's 250$ cheaper. Do you have a fetish for VRAM or something? Just get the cheapest with good quality: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587[/url] What resolution is the OP running? Have you asked that?
[QUOTE=nikomo;30963988]You're not funny.[/QUOTE] I wasn't trying to be? It's true. The only way to degold when it was autogold was to permaban. How is this trying to be funny. Also, this user has almost 3 years, 1000 posts and 8 hours later still no gold [url]http://www.facepunch.com/members/184651-aurum481[/url] unless garry was serious about changing it to 3000 3 years, changed it, and then degolded Buttsex
He did change it to 3 years and 3000 posts, fucking christ
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969570]Do you have a fetish for VRAM or something? Just get the cheapest with good quality: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587[/url] What resolution is the OP running? Have you asked that?[/QUOTE] Even at 1080p, I see vram at nearly 2000mb in metro 2033 and crysis. Granted, the drives might not be flushing the cache out, but I'm at a rather meh resolution and I'm already breaking the vram limit on normal 580's. The moment he moves to multiple monitors or a 30", his performance is dead, unless he drops textures and AA.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969570]My point is that if he buys the most expensive card available to him, he's using alot of money on something that will be outdated very fast. And if he's going for SLI GTX 580, why not get a GTX 590 instead: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130630&cm_re=GTX_590-_-14-130-630-_-Product[/url] It's 250$ cheaper. Do you have a fetish for VRAM or something? Just get the cheapest with good quality: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587[/url] What resolution is the OP running? Have you asked that?[/QUOTE] 590 Performance < 580 SLI Performance. He was going for max performance.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;30969630]Even at 1080p, I see vram at nearly 2000mb in metro 2033 and crysis. Granted, the drives might not be flushing the cache out, but I'm at a rather meh resolution and I'm already breaking the vram limit on normal 580's. The moment he moves to multiple monitors or a 30", his performance is dead, unless he drops textures and AA.[/QUOTE] Won't SLI utilize the VRAM on both cards? Then you've got 3GB of VRAM. Also, there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference between 1.5 and 3GB VRAM on 2560x1600: [url]http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/43643-msi-gtx-580-lightning-xtreme-edition-xe-3gb-review-15.html[/url] It's not 16x AA, but why would you even do that. You're also too fast for my ninja edit. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Goz3rr;30969683]590 Performance < 580 SLI Performance. He was going for max performance.[/QUOTE] Still, 250$ for some extra frames. He could get a one slot watercooled GTX 590 for 850$.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969725]Won't SLI utilize the VRAM on both cards? Then you've got 3GB of VRAM. Also, there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference between 1.5 and 3GB VRAM on 2560x1600: [url]http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/43643-msi-gtx-580-lightning-xtreme-edition-xe-3gb-review-15.html[/url] It's not 16x AA, but why would you even do that. You're also too fast for my ninja edit. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Still, 250$ for some extra frames. He could get a one slot watercooled GTX 590 for 850$.[/QUOTE] And then spend 500$ more on CPU block, reservoir, pump and radiator.
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;30969771]And then spend 500$ more on CPU block, reservoir, pump and radiator.[/QUOTE] But he was going for maximum performance?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969810]But he was going for maximum performance?[/QUOTE] Watercooling doesn't improve performance really. He wasn't going for maximum money spent or maximun overclockablity.
So, 3 years, 3k posts. And I was so close . .
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969725]Won't SLI utilize the VRAM on both cards? Then you've got 3GB of VRAM. Also, there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference between 1.5 and 3GB VRAM on 2560x1600: [url]http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/43643-msi-gtx-580-lightning-xtreme-edition-xe-3gb-review-15.html[/url] It's not 16x AA, but why would you even do that. You're also too fast for my ninja edit. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Still, 250$ for some extra frames. He could get a one slot watercooled GTX 590 for 850$.[/QUOTE] SLI is almost always using AFR(Alternate Frame rendering), which means basically each card is rendering normally and the drivers act like a zipper flipping between both cards. In this case each card has identical information in its frame buffer. Just like Raid1. Also, I no longer like hardware canucks. Firstly, bad company 2 for me uses only like 700mb of ram with 32xAA at 1080p. I hit 1984mb of vram usage in metro a couple days ago at 1080p, DX11, Very High with 4xMSAA. They are only using a single card, which isn't powerful enough to run the effects that needs 3gb of ram. Two cards are needed to really push the effects that uses 3gb. If he's only using one 580 then yea, 1.5gb is fine, since a single card can't push the resolution, AA, etc that would need enough ram. The ram comes into play when you want the BEST performance and want to run the highest of details. You have the peformance from your multiple cards, but not the vram for it. That's where 3gb comes into play. Bottom Line. SLI = Vram Limited. Single Card = GPU Limited. If you want the performance, you'll want Multiple GPU's. If you want to see those Multiple GPU's harnessed and pushed, you'll want to raise your AA, Resolutions, textures, etc. If you want to keep the frames you're getting, you need the extra video memory. And when video memory is topped out, You don't linearly go down, you go from 60fps to 2fps because it's caching to the harddrive, SSD, or system memory constantly. Edit: That's USUALLY the case. Some games use more or less Vram like BC2 versus Metro 2033.
How can this guy have joined twice: [img]http://gyazo.com/a602911ac0732d4a1fd6d0d677bb29e0.png[/img] ???
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;30969822]Watercooling doesn't improve performance really. He wasn't going for maximum money spent or maximun overclockablity.[/QUOTE] Overclocking increases performance.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;30969877][/QUOTE] You typed your reply inside the quote [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;30969880]Overclocking increases performance.[/QUOTE] You can get to 5GHz on sandybridge easily with a Hyper 212+. Let alone a Noctua NH-D14.
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;30969879]How can this guy have joined twice: [IMG]http://gyazo.com/a602911ac0732d4a1fd6d0d677bb29e0.png[/IMG] ???[/QUOTE] When you verify your email address, it "rejoins" you.
I never got "rejoined." Or is it a recent thing?
AAH I forgot my Yahoo password
[QUOTE=Brt5470;30969877]SLI is almost always using AFR(Alternate Frame rendering), which means basically each card is rendering normally and the drivers act like a zipper flipping between both cards. In this case each card has identical information in its frame buffer. Just like Raid1. Also, I no longer like hardware canucks. Firstly, bad company 2 for me uses only like 700mb of ram with 32xAA at 1080p. I hit 1984mb of vram usage in metro a couple days ago at 1080p, DX11, Very High with 4xMSAA. They are only using a single card, which isn't powerful enough to run the effects that needs 3gb of ram. Two cards are needed to really push the effects that uses 3gb. If he's only using one 580 then yea, 1.5gb is fine, since a single card can't push the resolution, AA, etc that would need enough ram. The ram comes into play when you want the BEST performance and want to run the highest of details. You have the peformance from your multiple cards, but not the vram for it. That's where 3gb comes into play. Bottom Line. SLI = Vram Limited. Single Card = GPU Limited. If you want the performance, you'll want Multiple GPU's. If you want to see those Multiple GPU's harnessed and pushed, you'll want to raise your AA, Resolutions, textures, etc. If you want to keep the frames you're getting, you need the extra video memory. And when video memory is topped out, You don't linearly go down, you go from 60fps to 2fps because it's caching to the harddrive, SSD, or system memory constantly.[/QUOTE] Cool, didn't know that, though I should probably have known. Anyway, what resolution [i]is[/i] the OP rocking, then? And if it's only Metro 2033 that uses that much VRAM, what's the point? That's alot of money you're throwing at a single game, when you can just turn something a bit down until the point when the new cards are released and you can fuck the game over completely.
No idea :v:
Oh and to all of you with Paypal accounts, you might want to get all your money out and make sure they don't have access to your bank/credit/debit cards, they closed my account and stole $200 from me.
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