[QUOTE=Jaehead;21650318]Ok so you just proved to everyone that you are a fanboy[/QUOTE]
He's a troll, check out his ban history.
and he still isn't perma'd? I even talked to VNL about it
it's just sad at this point
[QUOTE=whatnow V2;21650458]ps, I'm not saying these CPUs are rubbish, I'm just saying if an i5 preforms better it's probably smarter to get an i5 if you are building from scratch. If you already have an AMD system.... well, I'd wait for bulldozer or whatever.[/QUOTE]
See this is a VERY reasonable post. And I can definitely agree with helping a friend building a system from scratch with an intel i5 or i7.
Well, its settled, AMD is for people who like to switch out their CPUs, save money and the time for a new build.
Intel is for richer-ass people who dont care about their previous build enough and want to keep up with intels Tick-Tock.
Are they compatible with an AM2+ socket
[QUOTE=FINLEY;21658709]Are they compatible with an AM2+ socket[/QUOTE]
with a bios update, yes
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;21658384]Well, its settled, AMD is for people who like to switch out their CPUs, save money and the time for a new build.
Intel is for richer-ass people who dont care about their previous build enough and want to keep up with intels Tick-Tock.[/QUOTE]
can't tell if you're punching Intel or not, but yeah I guess that's put right.
I don't like to switch out parts and gradually update. I go big or don't go at all, because I know I will spend more cash on a new CPU or a new graphics card if I go from 8800 to GTX 260 to GTX 470 (example).
Seems fine, like something that could lower prices. I'm still waiting to see the new architecture that they're working on.
[QUOTE=QuAtT;21647894]I'm using AMD because it's cheap and efficient and because my i5 750 recently "blew up".[/QUOTE]
AMD processors are cheap and give you bang for buck, but they aren't any sort of power efficient. AMD CPUs have had a worse performance per watt ratio than Intel CPUs since the Socket 939 era (bar the P4, comparing to the Pentium M and Core Solo and Core Duo, not Core 2.)
They also put out a ton of heat, which leads to increased environmental climate control costs (A/C). I built a Phenom II x4 945 for my friend and when it's put under any sort of load, the CPU fan ramps up to 100% and the heat coming off the heat sink fins is almost enough to burn you. I haven't seen a heat problem that bad since the Pentium D.
[QUOTE=ph0ne;21649254]Why would you want to stick with DDR2 anyway? I'd rather make the move to an 1156 or 1366 platform where I can use 2000+MHz RAM stably.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what you're talking about. First, most LGA1156 CPUs don't support more than DDR3-1333 because they don't support the memory multipliers to go beyond that. You can raise the BCLK, but that's basically overclocking and isn't technically supported. There is only one CPU (possibly two) that support the multiplier for DDR3-1600, and it's $560.
Second, you probably haven't looked at any benchmarks, but the difference between let's say DDR2-1066 and DDR3-1333's raw throughput speed is less than 5 GB/s (usually less than 1.5 GB/s, depending on timings) and the speed difference in applications with that small of a jump is negligible at best.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21666312]AMD processors are cheap and give you bang for buck, but they aren't any sort of power efficient. AMD CPUs have had a worse performance per watt ratio than Intel CPUs since the Socket 939 era (bar the P4, comparing to the Pentium M and Core Solo and Core Duo, not Core 2.)
They also put out a ton of heat, which leads to increased environmental climate control costs (A/C). I built a Phenom II x4 945 for my friend and when it's put under any sort of load, the CPU fan ramps up to 100% and the heat coming off the heat sink fins is almost enough to burn you. I haven't seen a heat problem that bad since the Pentium D.
You don't know what you're talking about. First, most LGA1156 CPUs don't support more than DDR3-1333 because they don't support the memory multipliers to go beyond that. You can raise the BCLK, but that's basically overclocking and isn't technically supported. There is only one CPU (possibly two) that support the multiplier for DDR3-1600, and it's $560.
Second, you probably haven't looked at any benchmarks, but the difference between let's say DDR2-1066 and DDR3-1333's raw throughput speed is less than 5 GB/s (usually less than 1.5 GB/s, depending on timings) and the speed difference in applications with that small of a jump is negligible at best.[/QUOTE]
So basically just go with 1333 for 1156 and 1600 for 1366.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;21667295]So basically just go with 1333 for 1156 and 1600 for 1366.[/QUOTE]
He was just spewing crap about how he can use 2000+ MHz DDR3 with an LGA1156 CPU and how much better it was than DDR2, when first it isn't possible and second my point above where there's no real performance benefit.
Updated my BIOS to support the new 6-core CPUs, but I won't be buying in the next year or two anyway. I just got this Athlon II X4 in October, and it's still blazing fast for me.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21668793]He was just spewing crap about how he can use 2000+ MHz DDR3 with an LGA1156 CPU and how much better it was than DDR2, when first it isn't possible and second my point above where there's no real performance benefit.[/QUOTE]
ph0ne....
will my freezer 7 pro v2 be better than the stock?
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;21675105']will my freezer 7 pro v2 be better than the stock?[/QUOTE]
Yes, for sure
I always thought AMD slotted nicley into the mid-range/budget market, they always seem to be really cheap but have great performance.
[QUOTE=anikilol;21675151]Yes, for sure[/QUOTE]
Even in my tiny ASUS TM250? (before you say its a shit case, I got it for free so I cant complain).
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;21675523']Even in my tiny ASUS TM250? (before you say its a shit case, I got it for free so I cant complain).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm sure
[QUOTE=anikilol;21675716]Yeah, I'm sure[/QUOTE]
ok cool (pun intended)
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