• OpenOffice a threat to Microsoft?
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[QUOTE=Panda X;21176681]I use Google dumbass.[/QUOTE] That's what I get for not reading the whole thread before posting.
[QUOTE=Zedo Mann;21176873]That's what I get for not reading the whole thread before posting.[/QUOTE] Then I'm sorry for calling you a dumbass.
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;21176177]It's widely recognised that Vista was too heavy on computers. Even MS themselves admitted it. I like Vista but it defo had its flaws.[/QUOTE] it was too heavy on systems built for XP grandma's email machine didn't have enough power, rage on internet, get sheeple to follow you and we end up with this
[QUOTE=reapaninja;21177067]it was too heavy on systems built for XP grandma's email machine didn't have enough power, rage on internet, get sheeple to follow you and we end up with this[/QUOTE] it was just a shit OS. my computer runs Windows 7 amazingly even though it's built for XP. Vista was loaded with bugs and was truly bloated. 7 was Vista done right. The problem was that it wasn't too heavy on systems built for XP, it's that there was no reason for it to be so heavy on the systems.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21177509]it was just a shit OS. my computer runs Windows 7 amazingly even though it's built for XP. Vista was loaded with bugs and was truly bloated. 7 was Vista done right. The problem was that it wasn't too heavy on systems built for XP, it's that there was no reason for it to be so heavy on the systems.[/QUOTE] Vista uses the same amount of resources. Takes up the same amount of disk space.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21177586]Vista uses the same amount of resources. Takes up the same amount of disk space.[/QUOTE] Some guy already showed proof against that. and it's the truth. Vista uses more memory for NO reason.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21177925]Some guy already showed proof against that. and it's the truth. Vista uses more memory for NO reason.[/QUOTE] I just showed proof that contradicts Some guy. And who is this "some guy" anyway.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21177983]I just showed proof that contradicts Some guy.[/QUOTE] Scratch that, you were the one who posted that proof.
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Yeah, sorry about that. But your screenshot even shows some of the processes being uselessly big, plus applications ran bigger as far as I know. [editline]10:11PM[/editline] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+crap[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+failed[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+terrible[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+worse+than+7[/url] Take your pick. The Internet is filled with articles that go on explaining why it's crap. I can't provide you any first hand proof because I got rid of my Vista stuff for 7.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21178041]Yeah, sorry about that. But your screenshot even shows some of the processes being uselessly big, plus applications ran bigger as far as I know. [editline]10:11PM[/editline] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+crap[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+failed[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+terrible[/url] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=why+vista+is+worse+than+7[/url] Take your pick. The Internet is filled with articles that go on explaining why it's crap. I can't provide you any first hand proof because I got rid of my Vista stuff for 7.[/QUOTE] the internet is also filled with idiots and people riding off other's opinions to be fit in and be coul guise on der interwebs oh and by the way, superfetch look it up
[quote]SuperFetch monitors which applications you use the most and preloads these into your system memory so they'll be ready when you need them. Windows Vista also runs background programs, like disk defragmenting and Windows Defender, at low priority so that they can do their job but your work always comes first.[/quote] My god! Let's load up everything into memory! That's smart! Let's also run disk defragmenting for NO reason. And how about those people who have important background programs that they want to run at a higher priority? I certainly hope you can turn off this terrible "feature" otherwise it just makes vista even worse. And I'm sure this horrible "feature" is as wise of an investment as buying an SSD... because you know... those slightly faster load times help a lot when your drive dies early.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21178335]My god! [b]what are you doing?![/b] Let's load up everything into memory! That's smart! [b]You still have what, more than half of you memory free? So that only makes your programs load faster. I don't see why this is a bad thing.[/b] Let's also run disk defragmenting for NO reason. [b]It's probably running to defrag your hard drive. But who knows what that's for.[/b] And how about those people who have important background programs that they want to run at a higher priority? [b]Then those programs will have a higher priority[/b] I certainly hope you can turn off this terrible "feature" otherwise it just makes vista even worse. [b]You can. Ironically it makes Vista "even worse".[/b] And I'm sure this horrible "feature" is as wise of an investment as buying an SSD... because you know... those slightly faster load times help a lot when your drive dies early. :ohdear:[/QUOTE] Silly Aaron, logic is for everyone to share. Need I explain how 7 has the same exact thing? Oh shit, 7 instantly sucks now. Need I explain how both Vista and 7's superfetch both unload stuff in memory when a resource intensive program needs it. I don't, say Photoshop? Let's play a game called "Show how Superfetch effectively loads and unloads memory" An example demonstration is this video: [url]http://www.screencast.com/users/ThePanda/folders/Jing/media/dc30dbfb-4854-46aa-b632-c91a133bb682[/url] In this video you'll see what my RAM is like before I ran some program (which I use only to show people how SuperFetch works. It'll use any byte of free ram it can. Which is great for this demonstration.) [B]The Run Down:[/B] Hardware Reserved: Devices requiring a certain amount of memory for hardware. This is where the whole 32-bit limitation is talked about. [B]In Use:[/B] Memory that's in use by other programs. [B]Modified:[/B] Modified memory. (Pagefile) [B]Standby:[/B] SuperFetch. [B]Free:[/B] Memory that's not being used by SuperFetch or any program/service. [U][I]Before Launch:[/I][/U] 33% of RAM being used. Does not include SuperFetch. [U][I]After Launch:[/I][/U] 99% of RAM being used. SuperFetch dies. [U][I]After Process Terminated:[/I][/U] 10% being used. SuperFetch reenables. [B][U][I]Notes:[/I][/U][/B] Windows' memory management along with SuperFetch was able to bring a system that was idle at 1389MB of RAM to 429MB of RAM. Available = Standby (SuperFetch) + Free Cached = Modified (PageFile) + Standby (SuperFetch) Total = Installed - Hardware Reserved Installed = Installed ---------------------------------------------------- I never seen anyone call Prefetch bad, but when they make it [I]better[/I] everyone cries. What the honest.
-snip- Sorry. it forced me to post for some stupid reason.
Does OneNote 2010 support equations like the ones you create with Word?
[QUOTE=Panda X;21033603]I like Bing. It only works good in the US though. It's better than Google at a lot of things. (Google fanboys disagree because somehow if it says Google, it's instantly a god product. Kind of like Apple's fanbase.)[/QUOTE] -Google has proven itself time and time again. -The only reason we associate with Microsoft is due to its monopoly and the 360. -Few Apple fans dwell on FP, Apple fans are the Joes who want everything to work without dabbling into the problem for themselves.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]And how about those people who have important background programs that they want to run at a higher priority? Then those programs will have a higher priority[/quote] According to M$, all background processes are given less priority. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]Silly Aaron, logic is for everyone to share.[/quote] You're hilarious... Seriously. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]Need I explain how 7 has the same exact thing? Oh shit, 7 instantly sucks now.[/quote] I said it adds to the suckage, not that it's the soul reason behind the suckage. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]Need I explain how both Vista and 7's superfetch both unload stuff in memory when a resource intensive program needs it. I don't, say Photoshop?[/quote] Now who's got the crap computer... Photoshop isn't resource intensive. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]Let's play a game called "Show how Superfetch effectively loads and unloads memory" An example demonstration is this video: [url]http://www.screencast.com/users/ThePanda/folders/Jing/media/dc30dbfb-4854-46aa-b632-c91a133bb682[/url] In this video you'll see what my RAM is like before I ran some program (which I use only to show people how SuperFetch works. It'll use any byte of free ram it can. Which is great for this demonstration.)[/quote] Thank you for providing something meaningful, I honestly hadn't ever heard any mention of superfetch before even though it still seems pretty crappy to me. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587][B]The Run Down:[/B] Hardware Reserved: Devices requiring a certain amount of memory for hardware. This is where the whole 32-bit limitation is talked about. [B]In Use:[/B] Memory that's in use by other programs. [B]Modified:[/B] Modified memory. (Pagefile) [B]Standby:[/B] SuperFetch. [B]Free:[/B] Memory that's not being used by SuperFetch or any program/service. [U][I]Before Launch:[/I][/U] 33% of RAM being used. Does not include SuperFetch. [U][I]After Launch:[/I][/U] 99% of RAM being used. SuperFetch dies. [U][I]After Process Terminated:[/I][/U] 10% being used. SuperFetch reenables. [B][U][I]Notes:[/I][/U][/B] Windows' memory management along with SuperFetch was able to bring a system that was idle at 1389MB of RAM to 429MB of RAM. Available = Standby (SuperFetch) + Free Cached = Modified (PageFile) + Standby (SuperFetch) Total = Installed - Hardware Reserved Installed = Installed [/quote] Pretty much same as the one right above. Just want to add that it's an interesting process, you should send this to Microsoft. There description made it seem like if you use superfetch, your computer will be horrible because it starts loading all of the programs you use frequently into your RAM. [QUOTE=Panda X;21178587]I never seen anyone call Prefetch bad, but when they make it [I]better[/I] everyone cries. What the honest.[/QUOTE] huh? And I final note about some of the stuff you added to the quoting of my text. You know defragmenting makes almost NO difference in speed and is an utter waste of your time, right?
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21178880]huh?[/QUOTE] Also Ps is very resource intensive. PreFetch is like SuperFetch yet not [i]as[/i] effective. It's on the Windows eXPerience Operating System. [editline]10:49PM[/editline] My edit broke the logical progression in my post. It starts with also D:
what does "What the honest" mean? And I have no plans on trying superfetch, it seems pointless since I have no complaints about loading time as is.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21179001]what does "What the honest" mean? And I have no plans on trying superfetch, it seems pointless since I have no complaints about loading time as is.[/QUOTE] I say "what the honest" instead of "what the fuck". Also SuperFetch is enabled by default in both Vista and 7. See you didn't even notice did you.
[QUOTE=Panda X;21179012]I say "what the honest" instead of "what the fuck". Also SuperFetch is enabled by default in both Vista and 7. See you didn't even notice did you.[/QUOTE] It certainly isn't running on my Machine. My RAM usage is low.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21179048]It certainly isn't running on my Machine. My RAM usage is low.[/QUOTE] Run services.msc. What is Superfetch's status?
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[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21179137]blank.[/QUOTE] Why would you disable it?
Was off to begin with, I just turned it on. I see no difference in anything.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21179179]Was off to begin with, I just turned it on. I see no difference in anything.[/QUOTE] It's never off to begin with.
Must've turned it off some time ago, I don't see how it matters though. I still see no difference.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;21179216]Must've turned it off some time ago, I don't see how it matters though. I still see no difference.[/QUOTE] "Maintains and improves system performance [b]over time[/b]." It doesn't know what you do or how you do something yet.
K, I'll get back to you then. I don't expect to see any major differences though.
Something about OpenOffice?
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