[QUOTE=Odellus;18613624]Exactly. It's just a marketing gimmick. The whole TV is. There's no point in getting any more than 60Hz in a television.[/QUOTE]
I've seen adverts where they show 2 people playing tennis, and on a 60Hz TV they show the ball as being all blurred etc, but on the 600Hz tv, it's crisp as fuck.
What a bunch of liars.
[QUOTE=Appox;18619340]I've seen adverts where they show 2 people playing tennis, and on a 60Hz TV they show the ball as being all blurred etc, but on the 600Hz tv, it's crisp as fuck.
What a bunch of liars.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen a 600hz TV, but I have seen a 240hz Sony Bravia vs a nice 60hz Samsung side by side and there was a noticeable difference in motion clarity.
Above 120Hz I don't see any difference, it looks like blurs because my eyes can't keep up with the motion blur applied to the video, and the natural motion blur of my eyes.
:psypop:
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Agree, the human eye can't even see past like 30 FPS anyway.
[QUOTE=Ugly;18619590]^
Agree, the human eye can't even see past like 30 FPS anyway.[/QUOTE]
no.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;18619626]no.[/QUOTE]
Yes!
[editline]04:49PM[/editline]
"Though animated media works on distinct frames sampled at discrete points in time, there is evidence that the maximum FPS the human eye can see is around 60 to 70 FPS."
Maximum FPS - I know for a fact I don't see above 50 FPS.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate#How_many_frames_per_second_can_the_human_eye_see.3F[/url]
from wikipedia.
go to best buy like ajacks said and compare 60Hz vs 120Hz
[QUOTE=Ugly;18619644]Yes!
[editline]04:49PM[/editline]
"Though animated media works on distinct frames sampled at discrete points in time, there is evidence that the maximum FPS the human eye can see is around 60 to 70 FPS."
Maximum FPS - I know for a fact I don't see above 50 FPS.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate#How_many_frames_per_second_can_the_human_eye_see.3F[/url][/QUOTE]
Of course you don't see much over 60fps, that is because most likely the LCD your basing you opinion on is only a 59hz or 60hz display which means it cannot display anything over 59 or 60fps respectively.
[QUOTE=Odellus;18613624]Exactly. It's just a marketing gimmick. The whole TV is. There's no point in getting any more than 60Hz in a television.[/QUOTE]
I thought there was no point getting beyond 30Hz because of image retention?
-clip- I didn't read
[QUOTE=Unreliable;18619689]from wikipedia.
go to best buy like ajacks said and compare 60Hz vs 120Hz[/QUOTE]
I did this. I prefered the 60Hz TV. But that is probably because it was showing regular TV which is still all the same framerate and the TV just seemed to add some motion blur to make it seem fluid. It looked horrible.
[QUOTE=Tu154M;18619986]I did this. I prefered the 60Hz TV. But that is probably because it was showing regular TV which is still all the same framerate and the TV just seemed to add some motion blur to make it seem fluid. It looked horrible.[/QUOTE]
The reason 120hz TV's look more fluid it [b]removes motion blur[/b], which often can ruin the cinematic feeling of a movie, but improves things like sports and animation.
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;18616871]You wouldn't see a difference from 60Hz and 600 Hz[/QUOTE]
Have you ever played a game in 600FPS on a monitor that supports it? :p
[QUOTE=Ajacks;18620019]The reason 120hz TV's look more fluid it [b]removes motion blur[/b], which often can ruin the cinematic feeling of a movie, but improves things like sports and animation.[/QUOTE]
That is if the actual material comes in >= 120Hz. However, in my case it didn't.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;18618854]
I don't always like the 120hz viewing experience since it removes the cinematic motion blur and can make a film look amateur and unfinished. When viewing sports though it's fantastic, as well as animated films. [/QUOTE]
I noticed this during Black Friday. You couldn't have said it any better. I was explaining to my dad that certain tvs just look rubbish because of this despite their image quality. Nevertheless we bought a led tv from samsung. Looks neat, I think it's a good investment.
However, in my case it didn't.
Automerge broken :argh:
[QUOTE=pebkac;18617773]there wouldn't be much difference in watching content filmed @ 30 fps vs something that was filmed @ 600fps.[/QUOTE]
If i ever buy a Monitor @ 600Hz, i'll personally test that out.
[editline]06:14PM[/editline]
If my PC can play video clips @ 600FPS of course.
Comprasion of two TV's, one 60 hz, second 600. 60 is blurred and low-res like hell, but 600 is sharp, smooth, sweet and hi res.
Whats funny?
I watched this advert on my old TV :downs:
LG does this crap with 600hz plasma's, it's a marketing gimmick, however the 200hz Samsung are very nice and you'll notice the difference.
[QUOTE=Nexosz;18620138]Comprasion of two TV's, one 60 hz, second 600. 60 is blurred and low-res like hell, but 600 is sharp, smooth, sweet and hi res.
Whats funny?
I watched this advert on my old TV :downs:[/QUOTE]
But, Hz has nothing to do with resolution.
Why isn't there rules against lying on TV?
[editline]06:21PM[/editline]
I'll just upload a video clip in 600Hz for you crazy guys to test out if you ever buy a 600Hz TV.
Well it just makes sense that they have to exaggerate the effects of TV image quality when running advertisements since many of the people they are pitching to are watching the commercials on an old tube TVs.
[QUOTE=Appox;18619340]I've seen adverts where they show 2 people playing tennis, and on a 60Hz TV they show the ball as being all blurred etc, but on the 600Hz tv, it's crisp as fuck.
What a bunch of liars.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me that that wasn't a commercial on your [i]60Hz[/i] TV?
okey, so now i'm uploading the first (probably) video clip to be at 600FPS on FileSmelt!
[editline]06:45PM[/editline]
opening it in Media player wont help, since there is a some kind of fps limit i think.
Ok, so i wanted to find out what's the point of 120hz, so i googled it. Here's what i found:
[url]http://gizmodo.com/231872/120hz-hdtvs-the-secret-to-making-movies-look-as-smooth-as-butter[/url]
Basically it can display both 30fps and 24 fps video without having to mess with the frames. Why the hell don't they just make a TV that can change its refresh rates (between 24, 25 and 30)as needed?
Still don't know what's the point of 600hz displays.
Download [b][url=http://filesmelt.com/downloader/600fps.avi]this[/url][/b] videoclip if you're a maniac with a screen @ 600Hz! :D
(Open in something else than media player.)
[QUOTE=paul simon;18620868]Download [b][url=http://filesmelt.com/downloader/600fps.avi]this[/url][/b] videoclip if you're a maniac with a screen @ 600Hz! :D
(Open in something else than media player.)[/QUOTE]
The problem here is, even if you have a 600hz tv, no video connector supports framerates that high, so a lot of frames are going to be dropped anyway. I think all those extra frames are generated on the TV from a lower framerate input.
WHY cant someone just research the natural rate of information relay between the retina and the brain per second and just set it as that so as to remove all migraines and shit.
As far as i know from my rudimentary biology knowledge there's a constant stream of information rather than at a set frequency.
1: Differrent colours are being processed at differrent framerates in your eyes (Tough eyes don't work with framerates but this is one way of explaining it)
2:The more light hits your eyes the more 'frames'.
3:You can see the difference bitween a 100hz tv and a 200hz tv, tough 600hz seems useless.
4:The lvl at wich a game appears smooth differs per person and per game.
Rts is smooth at about 20 Fps.
While a shooter needs 35+ Fps. (I prefer higher)
-People have been known to see differences bitween 150 and 200fps.
-Also note that MHZ is not the same as FPS.
-Your TV Plays at 30fps all the time.
-MHZ had a whole different meaning on CRT tv's then on LCD.
I can notice the the difference between a 60hz LCD + A 120hz CRT.
The CRT actually looks more fluid and smoother.
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