Homophobic, Islamophobic historian kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral, France
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[QUOTE=Starpluck;40732097]No one's condemning someone for their "orientation" Garry didn't say "bestiality," he said "[B]people who have[/B] sex with animals" that's an act, not an orientation. [B]So you can fuck off with your annoying semantic bullshit.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sheesh arent you being a little too harsh there? I mean that was unnecessary.
uh not really
Pedophilia is a fetish like any other, and a fetish is an attraction, but not an act. So why do you insist on using the wrong terminology?
don't bullshit me with plain wrong semantics because that's a cover up for being stupid
Garry derailed this thread so badly.
xenophobic homophobes should kill themselves more often
[QUOTE=Str4fe;40732260]Sheesh arent you being a little too harsh there? I mean that was unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
In every thread condemning the act of bestiality and pedophilia, there's a smartass who makes it their mission to make it seem as if the disorder itself was solely being criticized, not the act. And then he explains the difference between the two as if we can't distinguish ourselves.
It's clear the act is what is being referred to, stop being a smartass.
I found it quite sad that as he killed himself, he is described as homophopic, islamophobic historian as if his homophobia and islamophobia are the biggest things he will be remembered of.
I dont think he deserves that.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40731441]No being gay is about attraction. If you're bisexual you're sexually attracted to both men and women, even if you choose a man over a woman every time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;40731467]That's not how being bi works. You can be a bi man who is in a sexual relationship with a woman but he will still also be sexually attracted to men.
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I was speaking from a societal perspective, he would be gay, despite in his own mental workings he is bi.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;40732097][b]So you can fuck off with your annoying semantic bullshit.[/b][/QUOTE]
how kind and friendly of you
aren't moderators supposed to be setting examples
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i'm not being a troll or anything but wasn't that kind of mean?
[QUOTE=Aspen;40732454]how kind and friendly of you
aren't moderators supposed to be setting examples
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i'm not being a troll or anything but wasn't that kind of mean?[/QUOTE]
rip your feelings
2001-2013
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;40732580]rip your feelings
2001-2013[/QUOTE]
i wasn't the one on the receiving end of that just fyi
my feelings are unchanged
[QUOTE=Aspen;40732589]i wasn't the one on the receiving end of that just fyi
my feelings are unchanged[/QUOTE]
you remain an astonishingly bad poster
i hope garry just refrains from having birthdays from now on
do i know you?
Garry what why do people even need to tell you this
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40732291]Garry derailed this thread so badly.[/QUOTE]
He's just stress testing the forums
[QUOTE=Starpluck;40732097]No one's condemning someone for their "orientation" Garry didn't say "bestiality," he said "[B]people who have[/B] sex with animals" that's an act, not an orientation. So you can fuck off with your annoying semantic bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Granted he did say people who have sex with animals, your post said pedophilia and bestiality are straight up abuse.
I'm not trying to be clever and arguing semantics, its just that the point raised is that people are quick to crucify pedophiles and beastophiles simply because of their orientation even if they have not acted upon it, and an extra point highlighted by the first few posts is that those two words come with very strong implications. 'Homosexual' describes the attraction to other men, whereas 'pedophile' is wrongly assumed to mean 'child fucker' and beastophile/beastiality is 'animal fucker'.
Anyway he was replying to the question 'How can anyone hate a person just because of their orientation', and the point is there isn't much difference between the hatred of same-sex attraction and the hatred of someone being attracted to children or animals, as crudely worded as it is. I just find it ironic/hypocritical that many people today will gladly wish death on someone just for being attracted to children, yet celebrate homosexuality. Not that I am accusing you or anyone else of that.
By killing himself... he's indirectly increased the ratio of support for gay marriage.
[QUOTE=Cushie;40733133] I just find it ironic/hypocritical that many people today will gladly wish death on someone just for being attracted to children, yet celebrate homosexuality. Not that I am accusing you or anyone else of that.[/QUOTE]
Because there has been a LGBT 'movement', not a pedophillic movement.
"death on someone just for being attracted to children" well it's not something to be taken lightly either, and it's far more rare
people also wish death or harm on LGBT people too, though
A man killing himself in protest of other people's rights, no objections there.
imagine if this was the beginning of a reversal in the usual suicide thing, rather than gay teens suiciding it's now homophobic old cunts. that'd be cool. but as is yeah just one crazy old angry bastard so filled with hate he couldn't even live with himself anymore let alone the world
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;40731564]i dont even know of any gender specific schools that deal with young children :v:
and yeah I wouldn't necessarily call it a conscious choice, I'm just saying that unless we found some kind of link in DNA that sets off like "oh man this dudes totally straight/gay/bi", I can't see how it'd be something you're born with
that young malleable age would make sense as a root for something like that, though it wouldn't be a matter of "man im gonna be gay"[/QUOTE]
it's a combination of genetic, psychological, hormonal, and physiological factors.
the thing people can't agree on is the ratio of the roles of these things and the degree to which they play into each other for determining sexuality.
It's sad to think that if he didn't dedicate his life to hate he would perhaps have never taken such a drastic measure.
[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;40733886]A man killing himself in protest of other people's rights, no objections there.[/QUOTE]
Actually if he's protesting against islam, he's up-holding peoples rights.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40735542]so freedom of religion isn't a right then?[/QUOTE]
Islam is one of the most restrictive religions out there.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;40735352]Actually if he's protesting against islam, he's up-holding peoples rights.[/QUOTE]
so freedom of religion isn't a right then?
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;40731564]i dont even know of any gender specific schools that deal with young children :v:
and yeah I wouldn't necessarily call it a conscious choice, I'm just saying that unless we found some kind of link in DNA that sets off like "oh man this dudes totally straight/gay/bi", I can't see how it'd be something you're born with
that young malleable age would make sense as a root for something like that, though it wouldn't be a matter of "man im gonna be gay"[/QUOTE]
well ok
you're born with being straight normally
but gay people are born with being gay
there's nothing hard about this
sexual and gender identity are societal, fluid, and abstract, which is why the argument over whether or not they are a choice is pointless. in order for you to be born with a concrete sexuality, you would have to be born with a concrete gender, which you aren't. if you think otherwise, how do you explain the existence of bisexuals, genderfluids, etc.? the way I see it, as a queer, sexual and gender identities only serve as an approximation
[QUOTE=Starpluck;40731413]Homophobes hate people who have consensual gay sex. There's nothing consensual about pedophilia or bestiality, it's just straight up abuse.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but homophobes don't see that
Suicide is the worst of sins in the Christian religion, especially the Catholic faith . I can't see how he reasoned this out in his mind.
A terrible loss for terrible reasons.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40735542]so freedom of religion isn't a right then?[/QUOTE]
you have the right to worship whatever god you want. i also have the right to say that your god is stupid and your holy book would see freedom taken from everyone if it was implemented.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40737037]Suicide is the worst of sins in the Christian religion, especially the Catholic faith . I can't see how he reasoned this out in his mind.
A terrible loss for terrible reasons.[/QUOTE]
Actually for the catholics, suicide generally isn't considered a sin anymore.
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