• The Oakland Strike Is Getting Huge And Has Already Slowed Down The Nation's Fifth Biggest Port
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[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;33097303]Yes, they are using tear gas. Multiple news channels are reporting broken shop windows, tear gas, rubber bullets and a marine was even harmed by a tear gas canister fracturing his skull which fuelled the protesters more. The news just reported the port of Oakland is closed down. I think that they have lost their "respect" because the majority of protesters now seem to be a bunch of idiots now. There is a HUGE increase of crime and graffiti in the past few days. I loved Occupy Oakland and all the Occupy Protests but up until this week because things were peaceful and things were being negotiated with the Mayor. But after the police tried to remove them from the park thats when all crap broke loose. [b]That is exactly what is being reported to be by 5+ news channels. So if I'm wrong than that means 5+ news channels are being bought out by the 1%.[/b][/QUOTE] I hate to nitpick but uh.. Yeah? Most local news channels are small branches funded and operated by the huge channels, most notably Fox, which are owned by news conglomerates that basically own all of the news channels. So yes, technically all of those channels are property of the 1%. You don't have to buy out the businesses that you create. Also seriously? You list teargas and rubber bullets as reasons the protesters are being bad. You understand that the police are using these weapons to subdue a peaceful protest, but are instead just fueling it? Or are you just thinking up negative things that come to mind when you think of Occupy Oakland and trying your best to string them together into sounding like a sentence that proves Occupy Oakland is bad?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;33097374]yeah THOSE HAPPENED DURING OCCUPY OAKLAND[/QUOTE] derpde derpty derp. I associated the two. wow, that totally flew over my head. I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33092689]"Communist hippies and soldier- ... Err... Police brutally attack peaceful- ... Uhh... Oh goddamn it."[/QUOTE] "Treasonous soldier taken out at violent Satanist protest against American values! Did he go AWOL? More at 11!"
I'm impressed. Almost wanting to get involved just so I can tell my kids that I was actually part of something. But then again, Mass Effect 2 does need to be beat again. Guess I'll stick with switching to a credit union.
So Oakland government, how did that whole trying to remove the occupiers by force work out for you?
Guess the whole cracking down on the protesters so they don't affect business has kinda backfired huh
[QUOTE=GunFox;33098049]So Oakland government, how did that whole trying to remove the occupiers by force work out for you?[/QUOTE] didn't work
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33094821]This makes me think of something. Why don't we have a law that makes it illegal to fire people for striking / protesting? Obviously there would need to be exceptions so it's not abused, and those exceptions would need to be strict so they're not abused, and etc. But protesting shouldn't risk your livelihood.[/QUOTE] It kinda baffles my mind this isn't a law already
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;33100583]It kinda baffles my mind this isn't a law already[/QUOTE] In Arizona, we have something called the "right to work" law, which basically states that an employer (local of state, not national) can fire you at any time they want for no reason at all.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;33100615]In Arizona, we have something called the "right to work" law, which basically states that an employer (local of state, not national) can fire you at any time they want for no reason at all.[/QUOTE] Oh wow, what a disgrace of a law. That's just retarded beyond belief, why aren't people protesting?
In case people don't fully realize the extent of the Oakland strike: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MIpjI.jpg[/img] there are no cars in this picture
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33101576]In case people don't fully realize the extent of the Oakland strike: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MIpjI.jpg[/img] there are no cars in this picture[/QUOTE]Liar, there are two, maybe even three in the top right on that little street, and one or two near the middle left there. So [I]obviously[/I] they aren't [I]that[/I] extensive.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33101576]In case people don't fully realize the extent of the Oakland strike: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MIpjI.jpg[/img] there are no cars in this picture[/QUOTE] this picture better be in a goddamn history book 20 years from now
I personally think that the occupy protests are long past the point where nothing will happen as a result.
Apparently the police just attacked Occupy Oakland again, does anyone have any information? From what I've read the protesters took over an empty building as a headquarters or something and the cops stepped in [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-oakland-tear-gas-arrests.html[/url] [release]Demonstrators managed to gain entry to an empty building that had housed the Traveler's Aid Society, a nonprofit organization that assists the homeless but had suffered funding cuts. Leaflets indicated that protesters had targeted the building for "reuse." They branded it a new "community center" in Twitter feeds. Video from a local ABC affiliate's helicopter showed jubilant crowds flowing in and out of the building, where a banner marked "Occupy Everything" hung. Others built a barricade nearby, presumably to discourage police. [/release]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33102278]Apparently the police just attacked Occupy Oakland again, does anyone have any information? From what I've read the protesters took over an empty building as a headquarters or something and the cops stepped in [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-oakland-tear-gas-arrests.html[/url] [release]Demonstrators managed to gain entry to an empty building that had housed the Traveler's Aid Society, a nonprofit organization that assists the homeless but had suffered funding cuts. Leaflets indicated that protesters had targeted the building for "reuse." They branded it a new "community center" in Twitter feeds. Video from a local ABC affiliate's helicopter showed jubilant crowds flowing in and out of the building, where a banner marked "Occupy Everything" hung. Others built a barricade nearby, presumably to discourage police. [/release][/QUOTE] From what I read, they actually started attacking about five hours ago.
^ first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you.
[QUOTE=Conscript;33102550]^ first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you.[/QUOTE]Which is a pretty accurate description of the chain of events. People pretended that OWS was just a short little bit of nothing that would go away after a couple days. But when it didn't they tried to make them look silly, which is where all the talk off "They don't really know what they want! Guffaw!" and getting supposed pictures of protestors shitting on police cars started to come from. Now its hit the point where its too big to go down easily, so they're resorting to fighting, in a limited form at this point.
I'm laughing in my head how a little over a few weeks ago I made a civil war joke and was called dumb, now it looks dead serious if things keep devolving here.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33101576]In case people don't fully realize the extent of the Oakland strike: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MIpjI.jpg[/img] there are no cars in this picture[/QUOTE] Holy shit I'm a supporter of all these Occupy protests and even I had no idea they were managing to literally fill a fucking freeway This is absolutely awesome holy fuck
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;33103621]I'm laughing in my head how a little over a few weeks ago I made a civil war joke and was called dumb, now it looks dead serious if things keep devolving here.[/QUOTE]I see it as incredibly unlikely. The nation is just too stable over all for that to happen, and people enjoy their current way of life too much to want to get involved in it. No one wants any kind of violence, they want a quick and peaceful resolution. And if it were to somehow escalate to some form of real violence, I'd imagine it'd be brief at best before things returned to normal. But, it does create an interesting What-If scenario. You know, what if by some chance there was to be actual, open, armed revolution? What would the frontline look like, how would it impact life on both side of the front, who would join? Its the absolutely worst case scenario, but it makes you wonder at least. I mean, for the other American Facepunch members? Would you really join a revolution; fighting and killing other Americans who are simply defending their homeland from a perceived threat? I mean, going against honest soldiers who enlisted because they believed they'd be doing the right thing for everyone, and who now have to kill the people they swore to protect all because of a difference of ideals? Or, as a soldier, could you really kill other Americans who are just trying to fight for freedom and a better world for everyone? People that you may have known at one time, who may have been your friends or even family and loved ones? It something I hope never has to come to pass, but it is something to ponder. I can't say what I'd do or if I really have it in me to do that, and I hope I never have to find out. I mean, if it happened and I joined the revolutionaries, then I might end up fighting and killing some of my closest friends and even family, people in the Air Force and Marines and Army. And if I joined the military, I might end up fighting and killing other friends and loved ones who support the revolution.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33103783]I see it as incredibly unlikely. The nation is just too stable over all for that to happen, and people enjoy their current way of life too much to want to get involved in it. No one wants any kind of violence, they want a quick and peaceful resolution. And if it were to somehow escalate to some form of real violence, I'd imagine it'd be brief at best before things returned to normal. But, it does create an interesting What-If scenario. You know, what if by some chance there was to be actual, open, armed revolution? What would the frontline look like, how would it impact life on both side of the front, who would join? Its the absolutely worst case scenario, but it makes you wonder at least. I mean, for the other American Facepunch members? Would you really join a revolution; fighting and killing other Americans who are simply defending their homeland from a perceived threat? I mean, going against honest soldiers who enlisted because they believed they'd be doing the right thing for everyone, and who now have to kill the people they swore to protect all because of a difference of ideals? Or, as a soldier, could you really kill other Americans who are just trying to fight for freedom and a better world for everyone? People that you may have known at one time, who may have been your friends or even family and loved ones? It something I hope never has to come to pass, but it is something to ponder. I can't say what I'd do or if I really have it in me to do that, and I hope I never have to find out. I mean, if it happened and I joined the revolutionaries, then I might end up fighting and killing some of my closest friends and even family, people in the Air Force and Marines and Army. And if I joined the military, I might end up fighting and killing other friends and loved ones who support the revolution.[/QUOTE] The media would instantly convince everyone that these are domestic terrorists (Just like the [b]founding fathers[/b]), people wouldn't join because everyone enjoys their mediocre but somewhat comfortable existence, and in the end an armed revolution is utterly impossible in modern day America. The military today is infinitely larger than the military we had back in the civil war/revolutionary war, the problems would be resolved 15 minutes after the first shot was fired.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33103783]wall-o-text[/QUOTE]You bring up a interesting point because there are a lot of variables at play. Apart from the ones you and Kopimi mentioned there are things like [url=http://www.edutube.org/interactive/guns-100-residents]gun ownership[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_movement_(United_States)]modern day militias[/url] to take into account along with things like local/state politics like when [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html]Texas threatened that it would secede.[/url] These along with many other variables paint a bad picture of what could happen. But one thing is for sure, it would be a dark time in american history and could destory any creditably OWS has.
[QUOTE=Political Gamer;33104060]You bring up a interesting point because there are a lot of variables at play. Apart from the ones you and Kopimi mentioned there are things like [url=http://www.edutube.org/interactive/guns-100-residents]gun ownership[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_movement_(United_States)]modern day militias[/url] to take into account along with things like local/state politics like when [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html]Texas threatened that it would secede.[/url] These along with many other variables paint a bad picture of what could happen. But one thing is for sure, it would be a dark time in american history and could destory any creditably OWS has.[/QUOTE] All of you bring up good points for your cases, but I still stand by what I say just because of how the police are acting. If the Police keep abusing and assaulting protesters trying to voice a message peacefully, they'll find another way. Violent or not. And if the military was to be deployed on protesters, I think they'd be more likely to support the protesters just because of the number of servicemen already in the protests, and the fact that they're their own American counterparts. So all I say is if the Police keep acting as they do, they'll get a rude awakening.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33091321]If you're rich enough you could order one from a different location[/QUOTE] That requires work. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;33101576]In case people don't fully realize the extent of the Oakland strike: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MIpjI.jpg[/img] there are no cars in this picture[/QUOTE] Truly awesome.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33103783]I mean, for the other American Facepunch members? Would you really join a revolution; fighting and killing other Americans who are simply defending their homeland from a perceived threat? I mean, going against honest soldiers who enlisted because they believed they'd be doing the right thing for everyone, and who now have to kill the people they swore to protect all because of a difference of ideals?[/QUOTE] I know too many cops and soldiers as friends to say I'd be willing to go toe-to-toe with any of them. Rather have them on my side, and I happen to know they're not brainless monsters who stomp random people for fun. Not that you're implying it, but I think some people need to be reminded that they're human and only a select few are the kind of psychopaths you see in the news that get hard seeing kids bleed. I think you'd be more likely to see a mass blue flu or army personnel drop before an armed revolution. The uniforms are just people, too, and they've got their own reasons to be pissed about various things. I forgot who said it inside the actual OWS protest, but the police and army are basically one lost job away from being part of the 99%.
The police are the 99 %. Most of them at least. Just think guys. If something happens on Veterans day and gets coverage like what happened to Scott, more people will open their eyes and be in support of the movement.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;33103707]Holy shit I'm a supporter of all these Occupy protests and even I had no idea they were managing to literally fill a fucking freeway This is absolutely awesome holy fuck[/QUOTE] It's actually just a bridge that leads to the port, not a main freeway, but yeah that's a lot of people
Can someone please explain this to me? All I hear or read is, "Occupy with us!" I respond, "What the fuck for?!" Seriously, what the hell is the goal of any of this?
[QUOTE=Phsykotik;33110856]Can someone please explain this to me? All I hear or read is, "Occupy with us!" I respond, "What the fuck for?!" Seriously, what the hell is the goal of any of this?[/QUOTE] Have you been living under a rock for the last month or so?
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