• "Barbies are racist" -Behrang Miri
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[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33311407]Oh gee, young kids preferring a blonde girl over a black girl ! MUST BE RACISSSSSSSSSMMMMMMM [/QUOTE] lol what's your point, that racism doesn't exist when it comes to skin colour?
[QUOTE=thisispain;33311476]lol what's your point, that racism doesn't exist when it comes to skin colour?[/QUOTE] More like every occurrence of one preferring something over another isn't a proof of some strong hatred against the thing that said one doesn't like. It's not because they prefer the doll that has been existing for 50 years that all of a sudden it's racism against the newer one. You need to get that idea out of your head because it's WRONG, people aren't racist by liking something over another one, for god's sake.
[QUOTE=Jawalt;33293710]Valid complaint. Black barbies are outnumbered like 200:1.[/QUOTE] because black barbies don't fucking sell.
Way to fight over nothing. Ah, the problems of the first world.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;33312759]Way to fight over nothing. Ah, the problems of the first world.[/QUOTE] Coming from a guy in Italy?
Figured I'd see where most people stand on the issue of racial attraction and started a facebook poll (need statistics to prove my point... or, if it turns out I'm wrong, become more informed). So far 9 people say they ARE more attracted to their own race, whereas 2 people say they're not. It's a public poll so feel free to vote yourself and contribute to the statistics (and, please, in the name of scientific curiosity, don't lie about your position to further an agenda: think about the question legitimately and answer as honestly as possible). [url]http://www.facebook.com/questions/2430303691047/[/url]
[QUOTE=sltungle;33313329]Figured I'd see where most people stand on the issue of racial attraction and started a facebook poll (need statistics to prove my point... or, if it turns out I'm wrong, become more informed). So far 9 people say they ARE more attracted to their own race, whereas 2 people say they're not. It's a public poll so feel free to vote yourself and contribute to the statistics (and, please, in the name of scientific curiosity, don't lie about your position to further an agenda: think about the question legitimately and answer as honestly as possible). [url]http://www.facebook.com/questions/2430303691047/[/url][/QUOTE] You're adding nothing.
[QUOTE=sltungle;33313329]Figured I'd see where most people stand on the issue of racial attraction and started a facebook poll (need statistics to prove my point... or, if it turns out I'm wrong, become more informed). So far 9 people say they ARE more attracted to their own race, whereas 2 people say they're not. It's a public poll so feel free to vote yourself and contribute to the statistics (and, please, in the name of scientific curiosity, don't lie about your position to further an agenda: think about the question legitimately and answer as honestly as possible). [url]http://www.facebook.com/questions/2430303691047/[/url][/QUOTE] That poll will prove nothing for your argument, my argument is that we're culturally indoctrinated to feel that way about beauty, if you're polling people who would have been at the receiving end of this cultural indoctrination and they all say 'my own race' you're just going to prove my point. also all of the people on the poll are white
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;33313690]That poll will prove nothing for your argument, my argument is that we're culturally indoctrinated to feel that way about beauty, if you're polling people who would have been at the receiving end of this cultural indoctrination and they all say 'my own race' you're just going to prove my point. also all of the people on the poll are white[/QUOTE] And I disagree with your argument. It's as if nowadays everyone thinks that any problem is OUR conscious fault as humans - that everything bad in the world must be caused by us intentionally. Why is it not possible that it's an innate instinct that we have no control over? Is the idea of something being beyond your control that scary? My mum told me a story once. We were at the shops one day when I was very young. We were waiting in line at the check outs with all of our stuff on the conveyer belt and in front of us there was a black man - it was the FIRST time in my entire life I had ever seen someone who wasn't white. Do you know what I asked my mum? "Mummy, what's wrong with that man's skin?" The man realised that obviously I was a kid and didn't know any better, and he just laughed and told my mum (who was freaking out slightly) that it was alright and I didn't know any better. Do you think that's cultural indoctrination? I'd never seen a black man before, so my instant reaction was simply to assume something was wrong. It wasn't like I'd been told to do that... it was just my natural reaction. That story mum told me is one of the reasons that I believe racial attraction is some ancient instinct, or maybe even some form of 'genetic memory'. The poll doesn't itself prove any points at all, but once I have some numbers confirming whether or not my suspicions are right in the first place (people are generally more attracted to their own race) then I could go about trying to delve into why that's the case. I'm trying to get some empirical data here first so that I have some basis to my hypothesis. Also, it's not my fault that everyone who has replied so far is white (that goes for the people who voted 'no' too, by the way) - I did ask the dark skinned and Asian people I know on facebook to vote too, but none have so far.
[QUOTE=sltungle;33313998]And I disagree with your argument. It's as if nowadays everyone thinks that any problem is OUR conscious fault as humans - that everything bad in the world must be caused by us intentionally. Why is it not possible that it's an innate instinct that we have no control over? Is the idea of something being beyond your control that scary? My mum told me a story once. We were at the shops one day when I was very young. We were waiting in line at the check outs with all of our stuff on the conveyer belt and in front of us there was a black man - it was the FIRST time in my entire life I had ever seen someone who wasn't white. Do you know what I asked my mum? "Mummy, what's wrong with that man's skin?" The man realised that obviously I was a kid and didn't know any better, and he just laughed and told my mum (who was freaking out slightly) that it was alright and I didn't know any better. Do you think that's cultural indoctrination? I'd never seen a black man before, so my instant reaction was simply to assume something was wrong. It wasn't like I'd been told to do that... it was just my natural reaction. That story mum told me is one of the reasons that I believe racial attraction is some ancient instinct, or maybe even some form of 'genetic memory'. The poll doesn't itself prove any points at all, but once I have some numbers confirming whether or not my suspicions are right in the first place (people are generally more attracted to their own race) then I could go about trying to delve into why that's the case. I'm trying to get some empirical data here first so that I have some basis to my hypothesis. Also, it's not my fault that everyone who has replied so far is white (that goes for the people who voted 'no' too, by the way) - I did ask the dark skinned and Asian people I know on facebook to vote too, but none have so far.[/QUOTE] The first time I ever saw a black person I didn't do anything because I come from a racially diverse area in London and I knew it was nothing out of the ordinary, which would imply that it's more environmental than anything.
if it's an innate instinct then all of us should have it yet two people in your poll said they aren't more attracted to their own race. so your theory of innateness doesn't work unless it defies logic. i'm more likely to trust dudes with shiny anthropology degrees who say that humans benefit as a species from reproduction with multiple gene pools. but sure ignore this comment and continue insisting that your flawed concept holds any water. fyi a poll isn't empirical data.
Self preservation is a pretty damn strong instinct (if not the strongest), and yet sometimes people will gladly let themselves die to protect people they care about. People (hell, all animals) are made to instinctively want to breed, yet not everyone does. It's not like instincts are 100%. Sometimes they're ignored, but most of the time people obey them.
I'm a white-trash doll, Typecasting sales polls! No immigration, We're consumerist Caucasian!
Political Correct sweden has done it again. :eng101:
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;33314071]The first time I ever saw a black person I didn't do anything because I come from a racially diverse area in London and I knew it was nothing out of the ordinary, which would imply that it's more environmental than anything.[/QUOTE] The first time I saw an aboriginal I said "hide the petrol" to my friends because I was a terrible racist child [editline]18th November 2011[/editline] [quote]. That story mum told me is one of the reasons that I believe racial attraction is some ancient instinct, or [B]maybe even some form of 'genetic memory'.[/B][/quote] haha oh wow Instinct is such a terrible concept beyond things like self-preservation, and maybe eating (we certainly don't shit instinctively in the west otherwise we might be doing it properly) This is most evident in the animalistic humans that have been deprived of social contract from birth
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