• Russian Krokodil has appeared in the USA
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;42320790]Eats away at your skin is a bit of an understatement -what the fuck is this shit aaaaaaa-[/QUOTE] Oh for fucks sake, tag that shit.
theres a vice documentary on this btw if anyones interested [video=youtube;JsUH8llvTZo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUH8llvTZo[/video]
This isn't really surprising, the drug's made from common household chemicals and opiates, thus cheap to make and incredibly dirty
man sprockethead just like tell a teacher or something dude we cant help you
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;42319779]i dont understand out of all drugs that are available, they choose this isn't normal heroin enough? whats so special about krokodil that they prefer have their skin eaten away rather than doing the regular stuff?[/QUOTE] Why do you think people smoke crack cocaine instead of pure cocaine? It's cheaper and they're addicts so they don't care. [QUOTE=Sprockethead;42319771]If you have so little will to live as to subject yourself to this drug, i say society should let you.[/QUOTE] I think that you're not a smart person and I don't like you.
[QUOTE=areolop;42319947][url]http://i.imgur.com/QugBhVn.jpg[/url] NSFW[/QUOTE] I don't get how people can continue living in a condition like that. Wouldn't they get infections and die?
and opiate addiction is a really powerful thing. i've never developed a habit but i've fucked around with oxycodone and what have you before and that shit produced honestly the greatest feeling i've ever experienced. its like a warm fuzzy blanket of euphoria fresh out of the smile dryer that just makes everything completely okay for a few hours. it grabs you so quick and its hard to get away.
Anyone stupid enough to use this deserves to have their dick and face necrotize while they're still alive
Average life expectancy is two years, after all.
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;42321082]Anyone stupid enough to use this deserves to have their dick and face necrotize while they're still alive[/QUOTE] Did you somehow skip over the last two and a half pages of posts?
[QUOTE=valkery;42321131]Did you somehow skip over the last two and a half pages of posts?[/QUOTE] I should feel sympathetic for these people because others would like for me to. Fuck right off [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Megafan))[/highlight]
you can really tell who the sheltered suburban kids are in this thread
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;42321178]I should feel sympathetic for these people because others would like for me to. Fuck right off[/QUOTE] These are people that need help. Denying them with your harsh attitude does squat. Your 'silent cowboy' attitude is something that you need to ditch.
The drug war has lead to drugs being expensive which is leading to these dangerous alternatives. Drugs would only be a problem like tobacco addiction if they were legal.
huh? I think these photos are fabricated cause I know for a fact that is a women who survived an acid attack not meth. [img]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/268305/slide_268305_1852007_free.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;42321253]I can't imagine the hell that users are in once they've become addicted to a substance, and I understand that it completely consumes them after a short time. But of all of the drugs they could be using, why choose this one? If you're an addict and you're looking for something stronger why choose one with such detrimental effects (it eats away at your flesh and causes it to rot and fall off the bone FFS)? All of them are harmful to the body but aren't there plenty of stronger drugs out there that don't cause necrosis? These are actual questions i'm asking by the way; i'm not just mouthing off.[/QUOTE] Like I said, the drug is easy to make and much cheaper than less harmful ones, and if a druggie starts using it, this pretty much means they don't care about consequences, they just want their fix [editline]jesus christ how horrifying[/editline] I doubt anyone in their right mind would start with krokodil, they usually change to it from heroin as soon as they don't have enough money to get a "pure" dose
[QUOTE=areolop;42319947][url]http://i.imgur.com/QugBhVn.jpg[/url] NSFW[/QUOTE] do they not feel it?
The people who don't understand addiction in this thread aren't dumb, but incredibly uninformed (and possibly very sheltered). Addiction isn't something you want; it's something you hate, but can't do without. It's FAR from krokodil, but I've struggled with smoking for years. I haven't had a cigarette since February 2012, but the thought of lighting a smoke is still incredibly prevalent. That's the thing with addiction: you don't just quit. Quitting initially is just the first part; the desire for that substance -- whatever is may be -- [I]never[/I] goes away. I can guarantee that virtually any ex-smoker agrees. Sprockethead and TheChantzGuy: addiction isn't a "decision," nor is it anything [I]anyone[/I] wants. The people who do these drugs are in a far worse place than you could imagine. I've been on edge and dying for a smoke for almost 2 years, and that's just from nicotine, that shit you can buy [I]anywhere[/I]. I can only imagine how these users feel.
[QUOTE=Hoboiam;42320232]Literally nothing else to do here besides black tar heroin or die slowly in the desert[/QUOTE] I know a guy who lived in Arizona who confirms this. He just got out of prison. He got a job welding.
[QUOTE=laurencedgreat;42319911]Opioid withdrawal is absolute hell. If you're addicted, you'll do anything to get your next fix, regardless of consequences.[/QUOTE] Codeine is some nasty shit, especially if you're allergic to it. My dad is allergic to opiates, and I found out the hard way that I'm allergic to them also. I was prescribed codeine for a leg injury. I took one dose at the hospital and among it dropping my blood pressure to being dangerously low, I was hallucinating over a day. And I couldn't drive for three additional days because the second the car I was in went over 45 mph, everything looked like it was whizzing past at 150+ mph. They gave me a whole bottle of those pills, I threw them out, fuck that shit.
i'm almost certain the media tried a huge scare ordeal with this same drug quite a few years back, am i thinking of another drug from russia?
The reactions used to make this vile concoction are extremely low-tech and use household chemicals, it's somewhat equivalent to the creation of "shake-n-bake" methamphetamine. The active ingredient in the final soup of a substance is desomorphine, not codeine - this is just a precursor that happens to be non-prescription in Russia in certain quantities. But hey, it's not too hard to get here either. Basically, the red-brown sludgy solution that these users inject has trace amounts of desomorphine as well as a ton of byproducts from the messy synthesis that eat at your flesh. The desomorphine itself is NOT what is so deadly about this "drug" - it's the rest of the crap that comes with it because of the homebake synthesis of it. The media is sensationalizing this just like they do with stories of any "new" drug.
[QUOTE=leet;42321899]The reactions used to make this vile concoction are extremely low-tech and use household chemicals, it's somewhat equivalent to the creation of "shake-n-bake" methamphetamine. The active ingredient in the final soup of a substance is desomorphine, not codeine - this is just a precursor that happens to be non-prescription in Russia in certain quantities. But hey, it's not too hard to get here either. Basically, the red-brown sludgy solution that these users inject has trace amounts of desomorphine as well as a ton of byproducts from the messy synthesis that eat at your flesh. The desomorphine itself is NOT what is so deadly about this "drug" - it's the rest of the crap that comes with it because of the homebake synthesis of it. The media is sensationalizing this just like they do with stories of any "new" drug.[/QUOTE] The issue with Krokodil is that it's easily made by just about anyone, and when a dealer offers you a hit of something "new" for far cheaper than the smack you've already been doing, you don't say no. People don't know what they're getting into when doing this, and the Vice documentary shows how severe the damage can be after hardly a month's use. As much as I hate to agree with scare tactics, in this case, it's hard to argue against using them beyond the curiosity it'd cause. Lets all just hope it doesn't get picked up by the US's teens as some new "cool" drug.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42320451]The drug itself is just a normal opiate called [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine]Desomorphine[/url]. The way it's synthesized is what's so dangerous.[/QUOTE] Ah, so I'm assuming while there are ways to get desomorphine without the impure toxins, when you make it over the counter using the cheap ingredients for krokodil you get those toxins and impurities in you with no real way to remove the impurities without more sophisticated equipment or sources
[QUOTE=Crash155;42321336]do they not feel it?[/QUOTE] No nerves, no feeling. You can't feel dead nerve cells.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;42321750]Codeine is some nasty shit, especially if you're allergic to it. My dad is allergic to opiates, and I found out the hard way that I'm allergic to them also. I was prescribed codeine for a leg injury. I took one dose at the hospital and among it dropping my blood pressure to being dangerously low, I was hallucinating over a day. And I couldn't drive for three additional days because the second the car I was in went over 45 mph, everything looked like it was whizzing past at 150+ mph. They gave me a whole bottle of those pills, I threw them out, fuck that shit.[/QUOTE] How can a drug with a half life of three hours make you hallucinate for a day
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42322149]No nerves, no feeling. You can't feel dead nerve cells.[/QUOTE] No, but you can smell it.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42320681]seems like 99% of most drugs if used right and made right are safe. Meth is a better adderal. Crack is a better coffee. LSD/Weed/Esctasy can improve your life when unwinding. But then you see people abuse it, and it's really just a badly made horror movie / train wreck in slow motion. but obviously using the dirty version is just bad decision and no self control all over it addiction to shit like this is seriously just the most horrific terrible thing to ever conceive of. though like I said, to know full well the consequence is pretty blind of thought, but scary that people are willing to do this crap[/QUOTE] Not really The real reason why drugs are dangerous is because of addiction If drugs weren't addicting, even psychologically, then they'd never be abused The problem is most "hard" drugs are physically addicting - if you put them in your body, then soon after you body depends on it being in your body. The more extreme the drug, the harder it is to just "quit" because you'll transform into a completely different person to the verge of insanity trying to get this drug back in you. Imagine being painfully hungry but nothing you eat except this drug can satiate that appetite. "Softer" drugs like weed are not physically addicting so they are pretty hard to "abuse", especially since long term effects of weed aren't nearly as deadly as long term effects of meth. The worst thing about weed is that you can get psychologically addicted to it (like one would get psychologically addicted to using the internet), which is gonna be sore on your wallet and you'll feel bleh when you don't have it around among other things. Even if meth wasn't addicting, its still much worse for you than something like weed. But it also would be much safer to "try once" since doing something like meth once or twice isn't good for you but it won't kill you. Of course you can't simply do it once or twice, because once you do it the first time you're body begins that dependency.
[QUOTE=Crash155;42321336]do they not feel it?[/QUOTE] They're addicted to pain killers come on man
It's actually been here for quite a bit longer. Hit Florida a little over a year ago. I had to write up a report on it for my command when I was working for the SACO (basically the drug tester of the unit), shits crazy nasty.
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