• Russian Krokodil has appeared in the USA
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[QUOTE=KorJax;42322176]Not really The real reason why drugs are dangerous is because of addiction If drugs weren't addicting, even psychologically, then they'd never be abused The problem is most "hard" drugs are physically addicting - if you put them in your body, then soon after you body depends on it being in your body. The more extreme the drug, the harder it is to just "quit" because you'll transform into a completely different person to the verge of insanity trying to get this drug back in you. Imagine being painfully hungry but nothing you eat except this drug can satiate that appetite. "Softer" drugs like weed are not physically addicting so they are pretty hard to "abuse", especially since long term effects of weed aren't nearly as deadly as long term effects of meth. The worst thing about weed is that you can get psychologically addicted to it (like one would get psychologically addicted to using the internet), which is gonna be sore on your wallet and you'll feel bleh when you don't have it around among other things. Even if meth wasn't addicting, its still much worse for you than something like weed. But it also would be much safer to "try once" since doing something like meth once or twice isn't good for you but it won't kill you. Of course you can't simply do it once or twice, because once you do it the first time you're body begins that dependency.[/QUOTE] while I agree with most of this, did you seriously just say you get addicted to things like meth on the first try
[QUOTE=Egevened;42322308]while I agree with most of this, did you seriously just say you get addicted to things like meth on the first try[/QUOTE] I honestly don't know lol I just used meth as an example because it was what the quoted person mentioned and its easy to spell
[QUOTE=Egevened;42322308]while I agree with most of this, did you seriously just say you get addicted to things like meth on the first try[/QUOTE] He's saying that it creates an instant physical dependency, not a psychological one. It has been shown in some drugs to do just that, i.e. Nicotine.
[QUOTE=KorJax;42322176]Not really The real reason why drugs are dangerous is because of addiction If drugs weren't addicting, even psychologically, then they'd never be abused The problem is most "hard" drugs are physically addicting - if you put them in your body, then soon after you body depends on it being in your body. The more extreme the drug, the harder it is to just "quit" because you'll transform into a completely different person to the verge of insanity trying to get this drug back in you. Imagine being painfully hungry but nothing you eat except this drug can satiate that appetite. "Softer" drugs like weed are not physically addicting so they are pretty hard to "abuse", especially since long term effects of weed aren't nearly as deadly as long term effects of meth. The worst thing about weed is that you can get psychologically addicted to it (like one would get psychologically addicted to using the internet), which is gonna be sore on your wallet and you'll feel bleh when you don't have it around among other things. Even if meth wasn't addicting, its still much worse for you than something like weed. But it also would be much safer to "try once" since doing something like meth once or twice isn't good for you but it won't kill you. Of course you can't simply do it once or twice, because once you do it the first time you're body begins that dependency.[/QUOTE] meth doesn't create a dependency dude. this is coming from a meth addict. don't ever try to compare meth addiction to opiate, benzo, or alcohol dependence because it is absolutely insulting to the people who suffer those withdrawals. meth addiction is psychological in nature, and is actually quite a bit less painful to withdraw from than cigarettes. i'v been sober for almost 7 days and i have suffered from increased appetite, fatigue, depression, and an insane desire to blow clouds. i'v seen people having withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, and opiates. it's fucking terrifying and enough to make me limit their use to twice a week max.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42322394][words][/QUOTE] I'm sorry, man. Keep strong, keep sober. Don't give up. You're on the path there and all you need to do is keep following the road ahead.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42322394]meth doesn't create a dependency dude. this is coming from a meth addict. don't ever try to compare meth addiction to opiate, benzo, or alcohol dependence because it is absolutely insulting to the people who suffer those withdrawals. meth addiction is psychological in nature, and is actually quite a bit less painful to withdraw from than cigarettes. i'v been sober for almost 7 days and i have suffered from increased appetite, fatigue, depression, and an insane desire to blow clouds. i'v seen people having withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, and opiates. it's fucking terrifying and enough to make me limit their use to twice a week max.[/QUOTE] cigarettes are like, the worst thing to try and get away from, really. I can't (personally) name anything worse with addictions.
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;42322416]I'm sorry, man. Keep strong, keep sober. Don't give up. You're on the path there and all you need to do is keep following the road ahead.[/QUOTE] i just want to feel normal again. sometimes i wonder if that will ever be possible considering how slow and weak you feel when compared to the strength and vigor of tweaking. but shit i don't got anything to lose from trying, and i can't continue spending $20-40 a day just on a little baggy of shards. [QUOTE=J!NX;42322419]cigarettes are like, the worst thing to try and get away from, really. I can't (personally) name anything worse with addictions.[/QUOTE] with the hindsight of knowing how the two addictions function, i would almost want to suggest smoking meth over cigarettes. the only thing that makes meth worse is the illegality and the fact that you are pretty much guaranteed to wind up hanging around some very sketchy people while you are high.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42322512]i just want to feel normal again. sometimes i wonder if that will ever be possible considering how slow and weak you feel when compared to the strength and vigor of tweaking. but shit i don't got anything to lose from trying, and i can't continue spending $20 a day just on a little baggy of shards. with the hindsight of knowing how the two addictions function, i would almost want to suggest smoking meth over cigarettes. the only thing that makes meth worse is the illegality and the fact that you are pretty much guaranteed to wind up hanging around some very sketchy people while you are high.[/QUOTE] not only that, but meth can really fuck up your reputation big time, no doubt, depending on who finds out. (if they aren't cool about it) but I think I'd rather smoke meth than cigarettes. They can just be a MASSIVE drain on health, intelligence and mostly money,
[QUOTE=areolop;42319947][url]http://i.imgur.com/QugBhVn.jpg[/url] NSFW[/QUOTE] godamnit why did I click... I just got scarred for life. seriously, don't click it I know you are sitting there contemplating clicking the link because you read this, but seriously; DON'T!
My cousin moved up from Meth to Heroin, she died from complications of Endocarditis.
[QUOTE=Judas;42319782]you have never had a single problem in your entire life, have you?[/QUOTE] looks like i have some problems, welp better resort to drugs
[QUOTE=Cuel;42322930]looks like i have some problems, welp better resort to drugs[/QUOTE] you have never had a single problem in your entire life, have you?
plenty. but i don't solve them by taking drugs
I've heard of this before and I thought that it was fake, and I honestly didn't think that anyone would want to have their skin and muscles rot like that no matter how addicted they were but I guess I was wrong.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;42323053]I've heard of this before and I thought that it was fake, and I honestly didn't think that anyone would want to have their skin and muscles rot like that no matter how addicted they were but I guess I was wrong.[/QUOTE] The mechanics of severe addiction to some drugs are truly terrifying.
[QUOTE=bravehat;42319888]Normal heroin also doesn't cause muscle necrosis.[/QUOTE] when correctly made, neither does krokodil. The stuff has the same problem as meth, there's too many chemical impurities in a typical batch to be worth taking [editline]27th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;42322394]...this is coming from a meth addict....[/QUOTE] this explains a lot
[QUOTE=Judas;42319782]you have never had a single problem in your entire life, have you?[/QUOTE] Half of my family is dead for my 17 y. o. I still do not believe in stupid shit as drugs as a coping mechanism. Alcohol is most I can take, the rest is meditating on problems and being alone. You do not remedy problems with another problems.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;42323176]Half of my family is dead for my 17 y. o. I still do not believe in stupid shit as drugs as a coping mechanism. Alcohol is most I can take, the rest is meditating on problems and being alone. You do not remedy problems with another problems.[/QUOTE] Alcohol ruins more lives than heroin or meth does
[QUOTE=Terminutter;42323070]The mechanics of severe addiction to some drugs are truly terrifying.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this proves that addiction can pretty much cause a person to ignore self preservation and survival instinct to get the next fix. They [I]know[/I] it will kill them, but dying is a more preferable option to living without.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42323332]Alcohol ruins more lives than heroin or meth does[/QUOTE] zeke I like you but car crashes probably kill more people than alcohol your point is?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42323344]Yeah, this proves that addiction can pretty much cause a person to ignore self preservation and survival instinct to get the next fix. They [I]know[/I] it will kill them, but dying is a more preferable option to living without.[/QUOTE] proves that [I]​some [/I]people are liable to this and that they don't care about their own body. doesn't prove that everyone is like this. [editline]27th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;42323332]Alcohol ruins more lives than heroin or meth does[/QUOTE] alcohol also indirectly creates more loves than heroin or meth do.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;42320622]I wonder what goes through someones head when they decide to do this. "This is gonna eat my flesh away but ill get high, this sounds like a really good idea" I know addictions can be awful but how can someone do this just to get high.[/QUOTE] opiod withdrawl is one of the few that can kill you.
Ironically the drug burns away your money just like your organs.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42322394]meth doesn't create a dependency dude. this is coming from a meth addict. don't ever try to compare meth addiction to opiate, benzo, or alcohol dependence because it is absolutely insulting to the people who suffer those withdrawals. meth addiction is psychological in nature, and is actually quite a bit less painful to withdraw from than cigarettes. i'v been sober for almost 7 days and i have suffered from increased appetite, fatigue, depression, and an insane desire to blow clouds. i'v seen people having withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, and opiates. it's fucking terrifying and enough to make me limit their use to twice a week max.[/QUOTE] Not alot of people know but plain old alcohol withdrawl is one of the physically deadliest.
I find needles that are supposed to go in weins even for medical reasons completely disgusting
[QUOTE=Whiterfire;42324487]opiod withdrawl is one of the few that can kill you.[/QUOTE] Oh really? Seriously? What orifice did you pull that out of?
[QUOTE=Egevened;42324015]zeke I like you but car crashes probably kill more people than alcohol your point is?[/QUOTE] Attack the greater threat of alcoholism instead of scapegoating drugs that less than 1% of people use.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;42323176]Half of my family is dead for my 17 y. o. I still do not believe in stupid shit as drugs as a coping mechanism. Alcohol is most I can take, the rest is meditating on problems and being alone. You do not remedy problems with another problems.[/QUOTE] drugs are an easy coping mechanism. it's difficult to feel sad during the euphoria some chemicals bring about. while drug use and abuse are not proper ways to deal with emotional issues, it's damn easy to see why people would turn to them.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;42324848]I find needles that are supposed to go in weins even for medical reasons completely disgusting[/QUOTE] Well it's not all that disgusting in hospital or laboratory conditions. After all, wounds actually heal up, but not with a fiend's unhealthy lifestyle that usually accompanies hardcore drug use. And as far as I know, Krokodil sounds like pure toxic anyway, even if used with caution and in sterile setting etc. I find it really hard to believe they knew what they're doing when they cooked it.
[quote]"In Russia, drugs consume you."[/quote] [laugh track, whistling]
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