Detroit PD has 24 minute response time; vigilantism becoming popular, people see 911 as useless, hea
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Let's make like Paul Kersey and fill up a morgue or two, lads!
Just going to say that if the PD spent more money on officers then all the worthless shit they got in their car, Detroit would be a better place.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;34592463]Doesn't work. So long as you can prove you [I]legitimately felt[/I] threatened he has no case.
Then you've shown intent to kill by using a firearm.[/QUOTE]
I think it's adorable how you think a jury or PD in a city where there was roughly a murder a day in 2011, and in the first half of 2011 alone there were 521 shootings, is going to even doubt for a second that a homeowner had a good reason to shoot an intruder in a dark home in the middle of the night.
But arguing it is dumb, because a law is a law, and this America, so no one cares about British self-defense laws and what you think is right. If you'd like to allow a burglar in your house to bring harm to you because you don't want to be "excessive," and think you'll be able to politely reason with a possibly armed intruder, go ahead, the world could probably use less people willing to be victims, the rest of us are going to continue to protect ourselves without any regard for someone who would intend to do harm to us.
[QUOTE=Last or First;34593369]A soft pillow?
A [I]soft pillow!?[/I]
Do you not realize that sometimes the stems of feathers poke out of those? My god, getting hit with those is almost as bad as getting confetti thrown at you!
Owl, did you throw your wallet? Did you accidentally hit him with it? If so, [I]shame on you[/I].[/QUOTE]
Oh god I'm nervous now! What if he pulled something, when he yanked the serrated blade out of my gut?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;34592638]I'm interested in hearing how you'd intent to defend yourself after / while you're being shot, please tell me how that works.[/QUOTE]
You're supposed to sleep in your kevlar, dude, everybody knows that. Then when you wake up to go to the door and somebody puts a slug in your tits you can give them a good scolding.
[QUOTE=BigOwl;34593818]Oh god I'm nervous now! What if he pulled something, when he yanked the serrated blade out of my gut?[/QUOTE]
If he pulled anything then you sir are going to prison
we can't have crazy violent people with no respect for human life in our society!
I keep seeing this posted all over the internet yet I've never heard anything about it on the news here or anything. People here have always armed themselves that's not new, a lot of this isn't new at all
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34594010]You're supposed to sleep in your kevlar, dude, everybody knows that.[/QUOTE]
My blanket is made out of kevlar
That's my state! And city <3
[QUOTE=Mechwarrior;34594511]That's my state! And city <3[/QUOTE]
Whats your arsenal?
reminds me of back to the future 2
Michigan is hell.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34594010]You're supposed to sleep in your kevlar, dude, everybody knows that. Then when you wake up to go to the door and somebody puts a slug in your tits you can give them a good scolding.[/QUOTE]
Whoa whoa whoa now, that was probably just an accidental discharge, I know people that inspect their guns at doorsteps and accidentally discharge their weapon when the door opens all the time. So I think a scolding is going way over the line. You should sincerely apologize for frightening the man, and then invite him in for coffee and hot poutine.
Oh wait this is the UK not Canada, alright so you wouldn't apologize, not sincerely anyway, but you'd still invite him inside lest you offend his murdering sensibilities.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;34592463]Doesn't work. So long as you can prove you [I]legitimately felt[/I] threatened he has no case.
Then you've shown intent to kill by using a firearm.[/QUOTE]
why do i have the feeling you've been sheltered your entire life and you actually have never had to deal with a stressful situation outside of school?
[QUOTE=wraithcat;34587794]Out of curiosity, why exactly is the detroit PD so underfunded? It's obvious the police itself isn't directly at fault here. They usually can't do much more than what they're already doing since they seem to be lacking so many people.
But why isn't the town or state goverment assigning more police funds there.
Also was robocop in detroit or am I mistaken right now?[/QUOTE]
Decades of government corruption
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[QUOTE=BigOwl;34593184]Guys, help I'm being mugged! Address to me the most ethical thing to do in this situation! 5 seconds go![/QUOTE]
Offer him less than his initial demand.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34595196]Michigan is hell.[/QUOTE]
I always thought hell would be warmer.
Detroit, victim of outsourced auto industry, buying one of the last mechanical primarily American manufactured goods (inside America) in order to defend themselves as a result.
I don't actually have a point here, I just find it...funny? Sad? Ironic? I'm actually not sure.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;34596828]I always thought hell would be warmer.[/QUOTE]
I'd say it froze over but this winter we haven't had shit for snow
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;34596828]I always thought hell would be warmer.[/QUOTE]
There actually is a Hell, Michigan.
Besides that, I don't consider Michigan hell, only our urban centers. Saginaw, Flint, Detroit, etc. The rural areas and suburban areas are quite nice, if you don't mind white trash and psuedo-hillbillies, especially far up north in the UP.
[QUOTE=IlikeHL2;34596869]I'd say it froze over but this winter we haven't had shit for snow[/QUOTE]
We have 179% snowpack for the time of year here. So, global warming, where art thou?
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[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;34591826]No. I follow the British self-defence laws, and using deadly force regardless of circumstance is a criminal offence.
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And in fact, in regards to the "intruder with a gun" scenario cited, that happened. R v. Lindsay. Three masked intruders armed with guns, one died as a result of multiple sword slashes from the defendant. Defendant got several years.[/QUOTE]
Hey, hey, there are many of us, and we have the means and intent to kill you if you get in our way or even if we just feel like it, but if you defend your self, you're going to prison. Yeah, your laws suck ass.
And yet my city, Miami, still ranks as the #1 most miserable city, in front of Detroit.
Christ, the private security firms sound like something from Snow Crash, where the police are separate corporations hired to protect areas under contract.
[QUOTE=Jimpy;34597236]And yet my city, Miami, still ranks as the #1 most miserable city, in front of Detroit.[/QUOTE]
Even after they sent Steve Caruso?
Must be really miserable down there if even his wacky antics couldn't perk the place up.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];34597024']There actually is a Hell, Michigan.
Besides that, I don't consider Michigan hell, only our urban centers. Saginaw, Flint, Detroit, etc. The rural areas and suburban areas are quite nice, if you don't mind white trash and psuedo-hillbillies, especially far up north in the UP.[/QUOTE]
We also have a Paradise, Michigan up in the U.P.
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And I swear to god, it looks like they zapped the town straight out of the 70's and stuck it in modern time. Driving through there, there was a shitton of classic cars and a motel that had a sign saying "Now! Color Television!"
[QUOTE=Zareox7;34597388]We also have a Paradise, Michigan up in the U.P.
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And I swear to god, it looks like they zapped the town straight out of the 70's and stuck it in modern time. Driving through there, there was a shitton of classic cars and a motel that had a sign saying "Now! Color Television!"[/QUOTE]
You guys have television? Shit, we must light the signal fires, if the bears find out about this technology, we could be screwed!
[QUOTE=XxPsychoxX;34593636]I think it's adorable how you think a jury or PD in a city where there was roughly a murder a day in 2011, and in the first half of 2011 alone there were 521 shootings, is going to even doubt for a second that a homeowner had a good reason to shoot an intruder in a dark home in the middle of the night.
But arguing it is dumb, because a law is a law, and this America, so no one cares about British self-defense laws and what you think is right. If you'd like to allow a burglar in your house to bring harm to you because you don't want to be "excessive," and think you'll be able to politely reason with a possibly armed intruder, go ahead, the world could probably use less people willing to be victims, the rest of us are going to continue to protect ourselves without any regard for someone who would intend to do harm to us.[/QUOTE]
The answer to all of this is simple:
If someone has the intent to injure or kill me, what I need to do is simple. If that motherfucker lays a finger on me, tries to stab me, shoot me, or enter my home, I am going to cut him or her down where they stand.
Nobody has the right to threaten my life, and if it comes down to them or me, I'm going to do whatever it takes to protect myself and those around me, even if that means I have to take the life of another. When you live in the sort of situation the people of Detroit or any heavily criminalized area live in, you have to be able to make that commitment.
It might seem horrifying to those of you that live with a cop on every corner, but for those of us living in dangerous areas, it's necessary.
The budding Green industries should set up shop in Detroit, cheap land, cheap labor, plenty of abandoned warehouses to set up shop in. Or they could fill it with datacenters. Datacenters everywhere, since people need space for massive server farms. Either way they need a new plan.
Let's build an inverted dome around the whole world to keep Detroit out. It will look a lot like a dome around Detroit.
[QUOTE=Metalcastr;34597616]The budding Green industries should set up shop in Detroit, cheap land, cheap labor, plenty of abandoned warehouses to set up shop in. Or they could fill it with datacenters. Datacenters everywhere, since people need space for massive server farms. Either way they need a new plan.[/QUOTE]
That's an excellent idea! I've been working on some of my own business plans for quite some time, and the property values of industrial warehousing make me drool.
oh god oh god, the bears have intercepted a shipment of T.V's headed for California they're going to organize propaganda, we're SO fucked, we gotta take down their broadcasting towers, seriously someone send reinforcements with the next caravan, also start including more guards on each caravan, I think the bears are starting to organize better ambushes. If we lose this trail, no one will be able to get to the gold rush!
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