• To Protect His Son suffering from Leukemia, A Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children
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[QUOTE=rewkasu;47027706]I got narcolepsy and catalepsy from the vaccine against H1N1, in the future i will never again vaccinate against a harmless flu. For the record i just recently received my insurance money from the government which was only 50 000 sek, rest of the money i will see in about 10 years and that is only 700 000 sek. Thanks Reindfelt[/QUOTE] It happens and I'm sorry for you but that doesn't mean people have to suffer because you suffered.
[QUOTE=SleepyAl;47025181]If there's no reason for your child not to be vaccinated (i.e. allergic to some part of the vaccine, immune system issues like this kid) then you're a bad parent if you don't vaccinate him/her, and it should be illegal not to vaccinate your child for bullshit reasons. Religion is not an excuse, your god(s) will let this slide.[/QUOTE] I agree that children should be vaccinated, but I'm not sure if I agree with it being law that they are forced to get vaccinated. I think the school should require it and leave it at that.
This section in particular astounds me. [quote]Krawitt has been speaking up about vaccination for a long time now. He told me about going to a parent meeting at his daughter's school just before the start of the school year, where a staff member reminded parents not to send peanut products to school, since a child or children had an allergy. "It's really important your kids don't bring peanuts, because kids can die," Krawitt recalls the group being told. The irony was not lost on him. He told me he immediately responded, "In the interest of the health and safety of our children, can we have the assurance that all the kids at our school are immunized?" He found out later from a friend that other parents who were present were "mad that you asked the question, because they don't immunize their kids."[/quote] Boo-fucking-hoo, parents.
[QUOTE=draugur;47025147]Should have already been law and child abuse to not do it.[/QUOTE] I believe "neglect" would be a better term to use than abuse.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;47028515]Really? Then fuck you anti-vaxxers. My dad JUST got lyme's disease from last summer by a damn tick. My mom tells me that there is no way to cure him of it, but I think I understand why now. Can lyme disease really kill? My dad is honestly not the fittest of people, but he's been through a lot.[/QUOTE] it is only rarely deadly, as long as he keeps up on his antibiotics for the entire cycle, he should hopefully be okay.
[QUOTE=Megadave;47025187]I don't vaccinate myself because my immune system isn't a piece of shit. Children are different, their immunes aren't quite good, so they need this shit.[/QUOTE] Are you real? Did a real person really type this out?
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;47028960]Now wait for someone to show up and claim they have a super immune system because they ate dirt as a child and never got sick.[/QUOTE] maybe that'd be true if they've been sick a huge number of times and recovered, but people that are that stupid exist here so, wouldn't surprise me
I love that J!NX's avatar is that STRAFE boy convulsing and foaming horrendously at the mouth while he's saying, "Get vaccinated!" Great juxtaposition. I would feel like the guiltiest kid if I wasn't vaccinated and went around campus.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47030412]I love that J!NX's avatar is that STRAFE boy convulsing and foaming horrendously at the mouth while he's saying, "Get vaccinated!" Great juxtaposition. I would feel like the guiltiest kid if I wasn't vaccinated and went around campus.[/QUOTE] if you don't get vaccinated, that is what will happen to you! for serious!
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;47029913]Are you real? Did a real person really type this out?[/QUOTE] I know right, every time he posts we get to plumb the depth of stupidity.
[QUOTE=Megadave;47025233]How can you guys not see the reasoning you are doing. It is exactly the same mindset that religious people have. You cling to an idea, and then you push it to the extreme. Adult's who are healthy and don't have a history of illness don't need vaccine's pumped into their body. If adult's don't want to take vaccine's, they shouldn't be thrown in a fucking jail. [editline]28th January 2015[/editline] Kids should get vaccines, their immune systems are weaker so they need the boost. But adults don't need laws to tell them to get vaccines.[/QUOTE] Dude I know you are banned and all and were probably trolling anyway but you do realize that some/most "mild" childhood diseases (measles, mumps, chickenpox etc...) are absolutely terrifying if you catch them as an adult and can lead to permanent damage such as sterility or even death right? Although come to think of it, sterility might not be the worst thing for you.
All schools should make it mandatory for your child to be vaccinated(Unless they can't for medical reasons). No vaccination? No education. And it's illegal for your child to not go to school until you're in your late teens anyway.
the school district i went to required a proof of immunization since the 90's if not earlier. [URL]http://www.aisd.net/information/New_to_AISD.aspx[/URL] i feel so lucky to have a texas education, shit's fucked up in some parts of america
Vaccinations suck, but getting the disease they protect against usually sucks about a gazillion times worse. I got a MMR dimple and a bigass BCG scar. At least i've overcome my fear of needles.
[QUOTE=Megadave;47025187]I don't vaccinate myself because my immune system isn't a piece of shit. Children are different, their immunes aren't quite good, so they need this shit.[/QUOTE] Funny, I know people who got really bad diseases that vaccines prevent, who had good immune systems too. You remind me of that person who called me an idiot and then claimed Measles isn't bad, it's like the cold. He stated anyone with a good immune system would fight it off easily and that no one needed vaccines. Catching the measles isn't bad, only that it could blind your ass, or just fucking kill you. Not to mention a lot of people who have gotten it were Immuno-compromised, or were too young to get the vaccine. If you refuse to vaccinate your kids, you are a sack of shit, nothing else. If you are an adult, claim you don't need those, and get an easily preventable virus, you risk spreading it to infants and people with bad immune systems who can't be vaccinated!
Here's a big tip for anyone scared of needles, especially the pain of getting a needle: At least half the pain is not from the pain itself, but from the anxiety of being hurt. If you watch the needle approaching your skin and begin to push in, it will hurt a [I]lot[/I] more than if you're fully distracted and relaxed. I heard about this, and then I had a chance to prove it. A few years back I had a scare about my heart; during a doctor's visit for other reasons, I reported to my doctor that I had very occasional tightness in my chest (actual reason: because I'm an out-of-shape fat fuck), and this worried him so he had me have a full physical, blood work, and an ECG stress test. I ended up having an ECG/radioisotope stress test and a full-on coronary angiogram (tube in your wrist goes up your artery into your heart so the doc can watch on x-ray while injecting opaque dye directly into your heart) before the doctors could conclusively say my heart was healthy for a man my age. My bad cholesterol was slightly [I]below[/I] normal, somehow. Between the ECGs and the physical, including an STD screen to be sure I hadn't contracted Hep C from my stepfather (who died of complications from it after getting unknowingly infected in his wilder years as a young adult, before I and my mother met him), I had blood drawn like seven times, plus an injection of Tc-99m for the radioisotope stress test in the hospital's nuclear medicine lab. If I watched the needle go in, it stung like a hornet sting (without the residual burning from hornet venom). If I chatted with the nurse about non-needle stuff and looked away and kept my arm limp, it was a minor pinch. Oh, and watching the blood get drawn into the capsule also made me seize up a bit, even though I'm not scared of needles and was being calm -- your blood outside your body is an instinct-level message that something's wrong, usually. [B]TL;DR pretend you're not getting a needle and distract yourself completely, and it goes a lot easier.[/B] Also, if you're behind on your vaccinations, get the fuck in there unless you can't afford it or medically can't have the shots at all (allergies/etc.). Your community is depending on you. Viral pathology is [I]not[/I] a freedom of speech style issue where you should be allowed to do whatever you want. People are dying of preventable diseases, and often it wasn't even their decision to not get vaccinated, but someone else's who then facilitated disease exposure to others when it [I]didn't need to happen[/I]. Polio was almost eradicated in Africa after an intensive decade-long program. Medical science was only a year or two out from being able to declare Africa Polio-free, and ten some religious leaders in Nigeria concern trolled everyone by claiming that the medicine drops were a genocide poison by the white man to sterilize muslim girls, and now Polio's on the rise again -- specifically the Nigerian strain. Thing is, you ask any really old person who grew up before these vaccines were available, and the diseases regularly killed hundreds at a time, they won't even be able to comprehend how someone could voluntarily refuse an immunization against them. I feel that this really is a case of rebelling against something because you never knew how awful things were before it. Those who do not know history are bound to repeat it--and others are usually the victims, in this case.
Some kid in NS just died because he and every other high schooler didn't get the meningitis vac for a strain we thought wasn't here. Get your fucking shots kids
This is just ridiculous. The only Religion/group (that I know of) that think vaccinations are wrong are the Amish, Hindu's and, Buddhist's. Or is it the fact that some think it cause's autism. All I'm saying is its just strange for 6.2% of the population aren't vaccinating there children...
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47031100]Here's a big tip for anyone scared of needles, especially the pain of getting a needle: At least half the pain is not from the pain itself, but from the anxiety of being hurt. If you watch the needle approaching your skin and begin to push in, it will hurt a [I]lot[/I] more than if you're fully distracted and relaxed.[/QUOTE] I'm exactly opposite, I've given blood a few times and looking at the needle go in is easier for me, no anxiety wondering when its going to happen.
Is there an age limit to Chicken Pox vaccinations? I'm 20 and have never caught it. I heard it gets worse, later.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;47032276]Is there an age limit to Chicken Pox vaccinations? I'm 20 and have never caught it. I heard it gets worse, later.[/QUOTE] I think you might get full blown Chicken Pox if you get the shot now.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;47032276]Is there an age limit to Chicken Pox vaccinations? I'm 20 and have never caught it. I heard it gets worse, later.[/QUOTE] Yeah you're probably in the age range of major problems if you get the chicken pox now, have fun.
[QUOTE=Zangeiti;47031238]This is just ridiculous. The only Religion/group (that I know of) that think vaccinations are wrong are the Amish, Hindu's and, Buddhist's. Or is it the fact that some think it cause's autism. All I'm saying is its just strange for 6.2% of the population aren't vaccinating there children...[/QUOTE] As far as i know, there's no buddhist doctrine against vaccinations. Amish, maybe. I'm pretty sure HIndus aren't against vaccinations either.
Vaccination is part of the mandatory health plan in elementary school here so I never worried about extinct diseases lol I just noticed the big ass scar on my left arm is starting to stretch into disappearance as well
[QUOTE=rewkasu;47027706]I got narcolepsy and catalepsy from the vaccine against H1N1, in the future i will never again vaccinate against a harmless flu. For the record i just recently received my insurance money from the government which was only 50 000 sek, rest of the money i will see in about 10 years and that is only 700 000 sek. Thanks Reindfelt[/QUOTE] To be fair, that particular vaccine was rushed and not fully tested which is a big difference from the ones that we've had 50 years to perfect. The chance of getting a side effect from those are so remotely small it's ridiculous.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;47032276]Is there an age limit to Chicken Pox vaccinations? I'm 20 and have never caught it. I heard it gets worse, later.[/QUOTE] Adult chicken pox can mutate into scabies which you really don't want.
At one time, I got the flu about once a year for several years in a row. I'd go a week at a time feeling like there were marbles stuffed in my trachea. I started getting the flu vaccine just for a chance to not have to deal with that bullshit anymore. Really haven't had the flu for several years. I had all my childhood vaccines, too. Didn't get the chickenpox vaccine just because it wasn't around yet when I was little (I'm old). By the time it was, I'd already had the chickenpox. Even if vaccines did cause autism, that still seems preferable to the shit that they can prevent. I know an elderly polio survivor who's been crippled almost her [I]entire life[/I].
[QUOTE=meppers;47030637]the school district i went to required a proof of immunization since the 90's if not earlier. [URL]http://www.aisd.net/information/New_to_AISD.aspx[/URL] i feel so lucky to have a texas education, shit's fucked up in some parts of america[/QUOTE] You also need to show proof of immunization when you're applying for college too in Texas. I had to get this specific vaccine that I never heard of (I forgot the name) or else the college won't accept me.
You know, it might be smarter for him just to homeschool his child rather than send to public school. Seriously, I got sick way less often after ditching the school system. (plus you can regulate your activities and exposure)
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47033289]You know, it might be smarter for him just to homeschool his child rather than send to public school. Seriously, I got sick way less often after ditching the school system. (plus you can regulate your activities and exposure)[/QUOTE] Their family might not have the means to homeschool their child.
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