• Breaking News: Feds Sentence Co-Founder of NinjaVideo.net to 14 months in prison
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This is one of the few cases where I agree with the punishment. You see tons of people illegaly download and use copyrighted material, but it's a different thing to blatantly put new movies and shows on your site and get rich off of that.
I don't support pirates or piracy in anyway. This particular site shutting down was not by any means a bad thing in my eyes. It's just knowing that the government can and will start shutting down more legal sites like megaupload, that's what makes me mad. Personally I can live without MU, but I feel bad for the paying customers. But what happens when the next site is facepunch?
lol why need SOPA when you can just raid the offices and arrest the founders/hosters theirselves
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34317378]If this stuff is happening it's happening most likely due to negligence on the part of prison staff, which makes the staff criminally responsible.[/QUOTE] The prison administration is just trying to do it's job. It's done nothing wrong/negligent by it's underlined standards. The problem is the inmates have been deprived of so many freedoms over such a long period of time, that they improvise to compensate for those freedoms. Men will dress like women, have sex with other men, and most of the whites fall in with the skinheads to avoid being singled out by the blacks or hispanics. There's only so much the staff can do within it's power to contain the convicts' behavior before they find themselves beating the convicts or throwing half of them in solitary. The system just doesn't work well at all.
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[QUOTE=Moose;34317566]The prison administration is just trying to do it's job. It's done nothing wrong/negligent by it's underlined standards. The problem is the inmates have been deprived of so many freedoms over such a long period of time, that they improvise to compensate for those freedoms. Men will dress like women, have sex with other men, and most of the whites fall in with the skinheads to avoid being singled out by the blacks or hispanics. There's only so much the staff can do within it's power to contain the convicts' behavior before they find themselves beating the convicts or throwing half of them in solitary. The system just doesn't work well at all.[/QUOTE] The system is broken, but it isn't torture.
[QUOTE=Capitalist Dog;34315143][img]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/402483_320304101343266_100000910362104_899508_643272867_n.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Those numbers are made up, bullshit. Also, COPYING IS NOT THEFT. and most pirated media/games wouldn't even by purchased anyways, so that number is so made up it's disgusting.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34317508]lol why need SOPA when you can just raid the offices and arrest the founders/hosters theirselves[/QUOTE] Yeah, you can do that under the DMCA, which this definitely falls under. This guy broke the law, and he got arrested and jailed for breaking the law. I hardly see a problem with this. [QUOTE=Contag;34315654]Uh taxation? government? The thing that enforces things like, say, copyright law?[/quote] AAAAAHHH Taxation that pays for the government to police the streets, pave the streets, defend the nation with the military, provide utilities, provide healthcare, provide social security and welfare, and provide education? Those taxes? Those are robbery? Look if you have a specific problem with the tax code, that's fine, but you seem to be saying that [I]the very idea of taxation, even with representation, is robbery[/I]. And that's lunacy. And yeah, the government does enforce copyright laws. So? This guy provided people with the ability to see and enjoy other people's work for free, and made a killing off of it. Comparisons to physical theft or not, he's not an innocent victim of the government.
[QUOTE=Spooter;34317718] AAAAAHHH Taxation that pays for the government to police the streets, pave the streets, defend the nation with the military, provide utilities, provide healthcare, provide social security and welfare, and provide education? Those taxes? Those are robbery? Look if you have a specific problem with the tax code, that's fine, but you seem to be saying that [I]the very idea of taxation, even with representation, is robbery[/I]. And that's lunacy. And yeah, the government does enforce copyright laws. So? This guy provided people with the ability to see and enjoy other people's work for free, and made a killing off of it. Comparisons to physical theft or not, he's not an innocent victim of the government.[/QUOTE] Contag does have a point with this. Taxation is forcefully taking money from you. There is always the implied threat of force with taxes. However, taxation is a robbery that society agrees upon as being necessary in order to create a civilized society.
taxation isn't an 'opt-in' or even 'opt-out' system My point was that forced appropriation can be a good thing, so that simply claiming copyright infringement is theft is not good enough for me Arguing that it removes economic incentive for innovators works much better
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34317822]Contag does have a point with this. Taxation is forcefully taking money from you. There is always the implied threat of force with taxes. However, taxation is a robbery that society agrees upon as being necessary in order to create a civilized society.[/QUOTE] While taxation is imposed by laws making it forced, if you're being robbed it's one generous robbery. A mugger just holds a knife to your throat and takes your money. He doesn't also add that if you give him your money he'll use it to paint your house, fix your pipes, and hire bodyguards for your premises. And besides, America has taxation [I]with[/I] representation, so you even get to tell the mugger how to use your money. The way I see it (within the confines of this increasingly tortured analogy) the mugger keeps the knife around nowadays to coerce the people who wouldn't otherwise take his perfectly reasonable offer. [QUOTE=Contag;34317877]taxation isn't an 'opt-in' or even 'opt-out' system My point was that forced appropriation can be a good thing, so that simply claiming copyright infringement is theft is not good enough for me Arguing that it removes economic incentive for innovators works much better[/QUOTE] Alright, when you say it like that it makes drastically more sense.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34317822]Contag does have a point with this. Taxation is forcefully taking money from you. There is always the implied threat of force with taxes. However, taxation is a robbery that society agrees upon as being necessary in order to create a civilized society.[/QUOTE]Hardly robbery, more like payment for their services.
[quote]He doesn't also add that if you give him your money he'll use it to paint your house, fix your pipes, and hire bodyguards for your premises.[/quote] If only the US government was as efficient as this mugger! You have a roughly 50/50 chance of the mugger doing what you want, and you only have two options anyway, and you can't change what they do for the next four years
services which we dont recieve healthcare being one of them since im currently in debt for healthcare send me your money
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34317928]Hardly robbery, more like payment for their services.[/QUOTE] government - the guy who wipes your windshield at the stoplight and then demands payment :v:
[QUOTE=Contag;34317949]If only the US government was as efficient as this mugger! You have a roughly 50/50 chance of the mugger doing what you want, and you only have two options anyway, and you can't change what they do for the next four years[/QUOTE] Well it's not the best analogy, maybe the mugger is bipolar.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34317928]Hardly robbery, more like payment for their services.[/QUOTE] But it's payment for services you don't get a direct choice in. You can't decline to have the roads paved, or whatever.
I can imagine it now. You get home one day and the mugger has painted your house and fixed your pipes, the next day you get home and he's installed an open septic tank in your living room because your neighbor told him to.
and then the next day you wake up and turn on the tv and suddenly the fucking gas price is 5$ a gallon and now you cant get to work
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