Security guards watch as girl is beaten at bus stop
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I understand where people come in and say they should have done something, but I can also understand if they didn't do anything because they knew that they might be held responsible for something that happened.
As if they pulled the other girl off and she got injured, it would be their fault and cost their department money to have to go to court and defend it.
It is a tough decision either way.
Plus I know if it was me and I was just in the general public like you guys would be I wouldn't do anything.
I wouldn't step in and tell them to stop for being in fear of what might happen to me.
So people saying the PUBLIC should have done something need to think if they would. And if you say you would do something, you are lying to yourself and to all of us.
[QUOTE=Octo pie;20161695]Source: The sun...
any other sources? That are actually reliable.[/QUOTE]
The Story is in every major news outlet. One single search on Google of thread title would show this.
[QUOTE=Squad;20163071]I understand where people come in and say they should have done something, but I can also understand if they didn't do anything because they knew that they might be held responsible for something that happened.
As if they pulled the other girl off and she got injured, it would be their fault and cost their department money to have to go to court and defend it.
It is a tough decision either way.
Plus I know if it was me and I was just in the general public like you guys would be I wouldn't do anything.
I wouldn't step in and tell them to stop for being in fear of what might happen to me.
So people saying the PUBLIC should have done something need to think if they would. And if you say you would do something, you are lying to yourself and to all of us.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law"]There are protective laws in place specifically to address the issue of legal liability on the part of the bystander discouraging them from helping[/URL], so no, that is NOT an issue.
Anyone who says they would have helped is a "liar"? Speak for yourself, you useless coward.
There's a certain human part of you that's supposed to go "fuck that" then you go help the person in trouble.
Sure I would've called the Police but I would've gone and helped, it's the right thing to do.
Thats just disgusting, how can these people not have the compassion to at least try and help her.
[QUOTE=Squad;20163071]I understand where people come in and say they should have done something, but I can also understand if they didn't do anything because they knew that they might be held responsible for something that happened.
As if they pulled the other girl off and she got injured, it would be their fault and cost their department money to have to go to court and defend it.
It is a tough decision either way.
Plus I know if it was me and I was just in the general public like you guys would be I wouldn't do anything.
I wouldn't step in and tell them to stop for being in fear of what might happen to me.
So people saying the PUBLIC should have done something need to think if they would. And if you say you would do something, you are lying to yourself and to all of us.[/QUOTE]
I would do something because I'm not a pussy, and here in America, we have Good Samaritan act to help us. No penalty for helping people in need. This is noting but a bystander effect that has people hope someone other themselves help the girl. But if you actually stepped in and tried to defend her, this would make the perpetrator look weak and have others join in, making them think "Hey! He helped her, maybe I can too!"
Mob Effect > Bystander Effect.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20168965][B]I would do something because I'm not a pussy[/B], and here in America, we have Good Samaritan act to help us. No penalty for helping people in need. This is noting but a bystander effect that has people hope someone other themselves help the girl. But if you actually stepped in and tried to defend her, this would make the perpetrator look weak and have others join in, making them think "Hey! He helped her, maybe I can too!"
Mob Effect > Bystander Effect.[/QUOTE]
Ditto.
The amount of anger that built up while watching the video... Fuck.
USA are turning into a third world country.
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It's like in argentina or something.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;20159504]Like I said before, no you wouldn't. You're doing the typical "internet tough guy" routine, and we both know that if the opportunity to do as you claimed arose, you still would stay on the sidelines.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I would. Maybe not so harsh as I said, but I would atleast hold her towards the ground or something, until the police or someone can take care of her. I'm not the one of those who just watches as everyone else in that video.
[QUOTE=TippZ;20172175]Actually, I would. Maybe not so harsh as I said, but I would atleast hold her towards the ground or something, until the police or someone can take care of her. I'm not the one of those who just watches as everyone else in that video.[/QUOTE]
maybe, but you never know until you are faced with a situation like this. 99% of the time, people watch because the bystander effect grips them and tells them it's not their business. are you part of that 1% who does something?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20168965]I would do something because I'm not a pussy, and here in America, we have Good Samaritan act to help us. No penalty for helping people in need. This is noting but a bystander effect that has people hope someone other themselves help the girl. But if you actually stepped in and tried to defend her, this would make the perpetrator look weak and have others join in, making them think "Hey! He helped her, maybe I can too!"
Mob Effect > Bystander Effect.[/QUOTE]
[b]MASS EFFECT[/b] > Mob Effect > Bystander Effect.
They're just standing around being all :/
Don't blame the guards for following what they're supposed to do. blame the people who write the stupid rules.
wtf.. thats fucked up
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;20161314]Seattle fucking blows.[/QUOTE]
nah. the bus tunnel is right outside pioneer square that's kind of the homeless tourist spot. once you go a few blocks north you don't get stuff like this.
those fuckers should have helped her!:ssj:
I wouldn't want to be sued by some chick for intervening. Most likely, the guards get paid about minimum wage, and protecting a few people isn't worth the legal litigation they would get for violating the contract.
Anyone who rated the OP funny is a turd.
That's not me flaming, that's just a statement of fact.
If you think this is funny, you are a turd.
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[QUOTE=kizza55;20160936]When I read the thread I assumed the guards would be a little way away from the incident. I didn't expect it to be happening literally at their feet. Even if they weren't allowed to do anything as guards couldn't they have helped her as a human being?[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought. I thought, "Oh, I guess they were across the street and weren't allowed to leave their post or something".
This is just terrible.
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Fuck the people who made it necessary for guards to have to do this shit.
2 of them should have atleast pulled them apart while the third called the cops.
like, fuck.
[u][b]For any of you saying that the guards were unable to do anything because they would be legally reprimanded, please read up on the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law]Good Samaritan law.[/url][/b][/u]
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;20215467][u][b]For any of you saying that the guards were unable to do anything because they would be legally reprimanded, please read up on the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law]Good Samaritan law.[/url][/b][/u][/QUOTE]
Maybe you should read it again too.
Such laws generally do not apply to medical professionals' or career emergency responders' on-the-job conduct, but some extend protection to professional rescuers when they are acting in a volunteer capacity.
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;20215467][u][b]For any of you saying that the guards were unable to do anything because they would be legally reprimanded, please read up on the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law]Good Samaritan law.[/url][/b][/u][/QUOTE]
You could use the same excuse for ANY other person that was there.
Those guards are pretty well trained
In all fairness...
Every fucker there stood and watched her get the shit beated out of her. It's not fair to lay blame purely on the "guards"
...what the hell?
That just pisses me the fuck off.
Not doing anything is the same thing as doing it yourself..
Shows you how dumb law enforcement is in America.
[QUOTE=articpenguin;20220571]Shows you how dumb law enforcement is in America.[/QUOTE]
Security guards aren't law enforcement, they're rule enforcement.
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;20215467][u][b]For any of you saying that the guards were unable to do anything because they would be legally reprimanded, please read up on the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law]Good Samaritan law.[/url][/b][/u][/QUOTE]
[B][U]For any of you saying that the guards were able to help due to the Good Samaritan Law, please read up on the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law]Good Samaritan law[/url].[/U][/B]
[QUOTE]The details of good Samaritan laws/acts in various jurisdictions vary, including who is protected from liability and in what circumstances.[4] [B]Not all jurisdictions provide protection to laypersons, in those cases only protecting trained personnel, such as doctors or nurses[/B].[/QUOTE]
It was safer legally for the guards to stand by and follow company policy. That way, the company would have to take the heat, and they wouldn't lose their jobs.
If an adult jumps in a fight between two teen girls, that's an adult asking for a lawsuit.
"How dare that man put his hands on my daughter!", "He grabbed her breasts!", and so on. If you are one of those security guards, they don't pay you enough to put up with that shit.
Most people say that they would intervene but statics prove otherwise. Staticly people would stand by and believe another would intervene. Like for instanst rape victims learn to yell fire instead of rape.It is a fatal fall of a Western society like the U.S while it not found in Eastern societies like Egypt and Russia.
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