• Chris Rock Stopped Performing for Students Because Everything Offends Them
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[QUOTE=sgman91;46668786]Odd that he uses the term conservative to describe it because this is a very progressive development. It doesn't really fit under any definition of conservative, classical or political.[/QUOTE] I don't think he's using the word in the same way as he would to describe a normal conservative.
As an experiment, I posted onto my school's Yik Yak feed saying: "Getting married before 25 is rushing a decision that you will have to deal with for the rest of your life." My personal belief is that you should wait until your mid-thirties to get married, but I set the limit at 25 arbitrarily. I was immediately yelled at in the comments with shit like "You are just unloved" "Just annoyed because you have no friends" "True love has no age, get over yourself." Which, for some people I guess is true, but why do people get offended by the idea of holding off on marriage until later in life? It's not like I said relationships are wrong, or that you shouldn't love someone before you are 25, I just attacked the institution of marriage. Regardless of your feelings on the issue, the fact that students immediately, and I'm talking within two minutes of posting, had started to tell me I'm a lonely, unloved, mightier-than-thou ass exemplifies the point Rock is trying to make: college students get butt hurt over the littlest shit. Even differences of opinion.
People need to fuck off with that whole offended bullshit. Grow a fucking spine and stop looking for moral high ground, you twats.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46668698]All you ever do is meaningless passive aggressive crap and then when called out you try to handwave it away and backpedal instead of making an actual argument. Thisispain did it better than you, and it bit him in the ass. Where do you think you're going to go right that he didn't? I never answered your question a while ago about why I tend to treat you like an idiot. Its a simple answer though: you tend to act like one. So do you have an actual argument for the point raised by the article, or are you here to shitpost? If you've got an argument, make it, and then this thread can have an actual debate about it.[/QUOTE] My argument would be that I've been to multiple comedy shows by art school tumblr fucks and it was just as offensive as any other comedy show but then I'd just get linked to the fallacy website
[QUOTE=J!NX;46668590]Louis CK has taken his place[/QUOTE] I feel like Bill Burr is also up there. Sometimes during his specials, you can hear the audience is dead quiet but Bill always manages to get them back.
The 'this is offensive' people are just the millennial version of the 'think of the children!!!!' soccer moms. This generation isn't any different from the next, it's just that the arseholes have to go about things in a different way. [editline]8th December 2014[/editline] I think there are some things which are legitimately tasteless and offensive ('All niggers are useless no-job coons and need to be wiped out!') but they're very rare to the point of almost being a strawman argument. Also, shit, this is my 5000th post.
" You can’t say “the black kid over there.” No, it’s “the guy with the red shoes.” You can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive. " Maybe because most of the college crowd is already at where you're trying to lead them.. so they just hear the calling out part (aka talking down to people). Edit: like maybe most of them are accepting and don't discriminate, and you're trying to have them laugh their way to some enlightenment.. but they already know, and you sound like a dinosaur.
So what you're saying is, Everybody ha-aaates chriiiis?
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46668854]My argument would be that I've been to multiple comedy shows by art school tumblr fucks and it was just as offensive as any other comedy show but then I'd just get linked to the fallacy website[/QUOTE]So then you're admitting you just came to shitpost, correct?
The black dude is right.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46668947]So then you're admitting you just came to shitpost, correct?[/QUOTE] No because my argument is just as objectively valid as anyone else's in this thread. The only difference is I'm not in the circlejerk.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46668973]No because my argument is just as objectively valid as anyone else's in this thread. The only difference is I'm not in the circlejerk.[/QUOTE] do you want a medal for being different or something lmao
To me the worst part of the campus conservatism which I have noticed is that it takes the form of 'liberal' Americans just enough that the actual social/economic conservatives can castigate them and maintain the false impression that there is any diversity in American political/social opinion, but other then being overly sensitive/falsely-confronting social inequality, the 'liberals' on campus (at least my own), don't actually seem to be very economically radical. They seem fairly complacent with the current economic inequalities, or at least are so pre-occupied with the social justice aspect that they neglect the root cause, which is economics. In a sense its as if any actual left or social liberal perspective just up and died, at least from my perspective.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46668973]No because my argument is just as objectively valid as anyone else's in this thread. The only difference is I'm not in the circlejerk.[/QUOTE]You haven't established any validity for your argument, you're refusing to make it. And you are in a circlejerk, its an ivory tower circlejerk with the few of you left who haven't been permabanned. Over a false sense of moral superiority, your ability to blindly stumble in to an issue and pretend you're right, and that everyone else can't possibly be right because they're not you, and they're in fact bad people because they're not you and not agreeing with you.
I don't blame him, as a student, I hate students.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46668973]No because my argument is just as objectively valid as anyone else's in this thread. [b]The only difference is I'm not in the circlejerk[/b].[/QUOTE] I don't get it, is that supposed to mean something? Do people not realize that the anti-circlejerk is still its own circlejerk?
Offended people are the most offensive people of all.
He's right. In fact people go so far out of their way to look progressive and not racist that they're actually going in reverse and being offensive in the process If you were to say 10% of this minority is doing 75% of the crime in this city, and then hold up the facts and numbers that back up your claim, you're still a racist and wrong and it's appalling that you just said that, and those saying its racist will go the opposite direction and start blaming the majority for it instead, because they don't DARE want to step on the toes of a minority, no matter what it takes People are becoming so soft and such rollovers that in 20 years from now, if a foreign country came over with their military and said We want to annex the United States, the people would go Well I don't want to say No and hurt their feelings, so let me set you up a place to sleep
[QUOTE=sgman91;46668786]Odd that he uses the term conservative to describe it because this is a very progressive development. It doesn't really fit under any definition of conservative, classical or political.[/QUOTE] There's nothing progressive about it. Progressiveness was founded by rich white old money people who wanted everyone to have an equal shot at realizing happiness and fulfillment in [b]theory[/b]; in practice they were as racist and ideologically slanted as everyone else around them. TR was a casual racist despite having Booker T. Washington eat with him one night; the supposed incorruptible bullmoose bowed and said publically he regretted inviting him, and at the end of his term he discharged a black army unit with dishonor, a unit he knew was falsely accused of a crime they did not commit, a unit that contained a man who [b]shared his rations with him every night during the San Juan campaign[/b] because dumbass teddy refused to take cover and had his pack horse with all his food on it shot out from under him, and he never bothered to go back for it, and in thanks he had this man publicly disgraced and thrown out of his lifelong profession. He was also a rampant Imperialist and thought the dumb brown people needed help from the rich white people to secure meaningful national existence, as evidence by his trickeration to get the panama canal built. FDR wasn't much better, and all the institutionalized sexism and racism under his watch continued rather openly despite his teatime handwaving objections to it. Progressive. The only progressive in that bunch was Eleanor. [quote] I do not think that word means what you think it means [/quote]
[QUOTE=KnightSolaire;46668597]My brother has a mental disabilty and I still call people retarded, words really have no power if you don't let them have it[/QUOTE] How are we supposed to communicate deeply if words have no power? Edit: you're using words to say words have no power
Well of course college students are going to be offended; they're college students. Hell, if I was a comedian and I knew I was offending overly sensitive college students, I'd keep performing standup routines at colleges. Those kids need to grow a pair and stop being whiny bitches.
[QUOTE=Blackwheel;46669312]How are we supposed to communicate deeply if words have no power? Edit: you're using words to say words have no power[/QUOTE] [quote] words really have no power if you don't let them have it[/quote] It's not that hard to understand man. "Sticks and stones" shit basically.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;46669350]It's not that hard to understand man. "Sticks and stones" shit basically.[/QUOTE] ya but, then we gotta have our guard up all the time, that's bullshit, words can hurt very fucking bad if you put them in a certain order at the wrong time. I'm all for ignoring haters, but ya I don't know. You can't just have the good words be powerful and the bad ones not, right? maybe. I'm confused now.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;46669350]It's not that hard to understand man. "Sticks and stones" shit basically.[/QUOTE] I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Words [I]can[/I] hurt. Some people take it way too far, yes, but being shouted at is going to shock you. Being told something awful is going to upset you. Words don't mean anything on their own, no, but their connotations can be very real indeed, and that includes slurs.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;46668578]I can't say I'm surprised George carlin said that.[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly, Mel Brooks did, too.
I bought my black friends a whip on the first day of black history month and they chased each other around yelling "get over here nigger". Was THE funniest shit i've ever witnessed.
University can be just one big hug box sometimes.
[QUOTE=Mabus;46669474]University can be just one big hug box sometimes.[/QUOTE] Full of rusty nails. I really despise both the pseudo-intellectual hypermarxists and the "Ayn Rand fan club" of edgy libertarians. These people take one or two classes on political or economic theory or social criticism and decide that they understand the world, taking to the internet to buttress their views with echo chambers and ignorance. When a big cause comes up to get angry about, they jump to it as fast as humanly possible if only to give themselves greater credibility within their echo chambers. They only fade out when they realize that their extremist ideals lack even more practical use than the obscenely expensive education they're ignoring.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46668698] So do you have an actual argument for the point raised by the article, or are you here to shitpost? If you've got an argument, make it, and then this thread can have an actual debate about it.[/QUOTE] What point was raised? What do you want to have an "actual debate" about? I'm reasonably sure Chris Rock isn't lying. Maybe he did do a few university tours that didn't go well because his audience wasn't perceptive to his brand of comedy. I will say I largely disagree with this being a generational issue though. The brand of humor Rock uses is extremely popular amongst young adults these days.
It's interesting how on Facepunch being offended by something is a cardinal sin worthy of lynching, and if you are offended you are always in the wrong no matter what it is and should get over it. [editline]8th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=KnightSolaire;46668597]My brother has a mental disabilty and I still call people retarded, words really have no power if you don't let them have it[/QUOTE] Good for you. Do you realize that there are people in the world who have legitimate reasons to be offended by the usage of that word? If someone clearly has a valid reason to be upset by it the polite thing to do would be not to call people retarded.
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