India tests Long-Range missile. Nobody really cares.
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[quote]India has successfully launched a long-range intercontinental ballistic missile able to carry a nuclear warhead, officials say.
The locally-developed Agni-V missile was originally scheduled to launch on Wednesday in the eastern state of Orissa.
Officials had delayed the launch because of heavy lightning in the area.
The missile has a range of more than 5,000km (3,100 miles), within range of targets in China.
Analysts say the Agni (meaning "fire" in Hindi and Sanskrit) missile family is to be the cornerstone of India's missile-based nuclear deterrent.
The missiles are among the country's most sophisticated weapons.
In 2010, India successfully test-fired Agni-II, an intermediate-range ballistic missile with a range of more than 2,000km (1,250 miles).
The Agni-V missile was launched from Orissa's Wheeler Island at 0805 local time on Thursday.
"It was a perfect launch. It met all the test parameters and hit its pre-determined target," SP Das, director of the test range, told the BBC.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh congratulated the scientists for the "successful launch" of the missile.
"Today's launch represents another milestone in our quest for our security, preparedness and to explore the frontiers of science," he said.
'Deterrent'
The missile took about 20 minutes to hit its target somewhere near Indonesia in the Indian Ocean.
Defence analyst Rahul Bedi says a successful test flight of the Agni-V missile, which is capable of delivering a single 1.5-ton warhead deep inside nuclear rival China's territory, would strengthen India's nuclear deterrence once it comes into service by 2014-15.
It is 17.5m tall, solid-fuelled, has three stages and a launch weight of 50 tons. It has cost more than 2.5bn rupees ($480m; £307m) to develop.
Only China, Russia, France, the US and UK have such long-range missiles. Israel is thought to possess them.
"Agni-V is to meet our present-day threat perceptions, which are determined by our defence forces and other agencies," DRDO Ravi Gupta spokesman told AFP news agency ahead of the launch.
"This is a deterrent to avoid wars and it is not country-specific," he said.[/quote]
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I like how no other countries really cared that this happened. If this was North Korea they would of been screaming for preemptive war.
Then again, It IS India.
Eh, it's India. They're pretty much cool with everyone that matters.
[quote]I like how no other countries really cared that this happened. If this was North Korea they would of been screaming for preemptive war.[/quote]
Somehow I think that the Indian and North Korean international policies and general attitude towards the rest of the world with respects to military action are perhaps... slightly... different? Just a thought.
India is too disorganized for anyone to really see it as a threat to anything.
Well, besides Pakistan.
Well India has very few that can even be considered "enemies" so everyone are fine with them.
Meanwhile North Korea is this crazy paranoid old man on his old cottage watching the yard with a shotgun from his window.
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[B]I like how no other countries really cared that this happened. If this was North Korea they would of been screaming for preemptive war.[/B][/QUOTE]
yeah thats kinda because we're in a very different relationship with india..
India is a bro
So long as they don't threaten to wage eternal sacred war against South India, I think we're safe.
From the perspective of everyone that's not "part of the club" however, this only justifies their own projects. Last time I checked Iran didn't have a nuke and no checks on directly related projects turned something up, but when your neighbors are burning and Israel is around the corner and status quo for a lot of nations is to get a nuke so nobody dares to fuck with you, I can see where he's coming from when saying it's unfair. Doesn't help that he can support his argument with the fact that the US have been the only one so far to actually use nukes in real warfare, plus there's uranium ammunition everywhere in the Middle East and it's fucking up entire generations. Issued by NATO I think, but don't nail me on that statement.
Pretty sure Pakistan cares. India and Pakistan don't really get along.
[QUOTE]It is 17.5m tall, solid-fuelled, has three stages and a launch weight of 50 tons. It has cost more than 2.5bn rupees ($480m; £307m) to develop.
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And North Korea spent at least a billion dollars to develop their's.
India:
"Hey cool rocket India"
Any country linked to militarism and terrorism:
"JESUS CHRIST WE MUST TAKE ACTION"
I just hate how India still has crippling poverty yet pulls stuff like this, they should spend their money on something nice for once instead
[QUOTE=Limed00d;35632095]India:
"Hey cool rocket India"
Any country linked to militarism and terrorism:
"JESUS CHRIST WE MUST TAKE ACTION"[/QUOTE]
We can trust India with an ICBM. We can't trust those militaristic dictatorships with them. That's why this is the case.
India is really odd to read about. They have friendly or cordial relations with every country in the world besides Pakistan, help dozens of tiny states out with problems and are invested in tonnes of social programs throughout the world. Yet somehow they're developing this attack-ready military and at the same time have vast social problems. Such a mixed bag.
Great double standard.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;35631476]Pretty sure Pakistan cares. India and Pakistan don't really get along.[/QUOTE]
An understatement if I ever did hear it haha, China would be fairly cool about it too, the Kashmir province is a very touchy subject between the three.
[QUOTE=Conscript;35633378]Great double standard.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TestECull;35632462]We can trust India with an ICBM. We can't trust those militaristic dictatorships with them. That's why this is the case.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Charybdis;35632195]I just hate how India still has crippling poverty yet pulls stuff like this, they should spend their money on something nice for once instead[/QUOTE]
It's not easy to be one of the highest developing countries. By doing this, it shows they're not a country who solely wants to help the poor. Yes there are tough times, but there's not much anyone can do.
Look at the African situation, by solely helping the poor there has caused mass piracy and conflict. It's all very unstable. That's what could happen.
Not totally related, but interesting:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971]Their latest war[/url]
And it doesn't seem like they're going toe to toe again anytime soon.
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Look at the African situation, by solely helping the poor there has caused mass piracy and conflict. It's all very unstable. That's what could happen.[/QUOTE]
Wow are you dumb. "Helping the poor" isn't exactly whats causing hunger and war in Africa. Places don't just become "unstable" by themselves and the roots of unrest today are usually somewhere in the past. Already forgotten by everyone so they can take a condescending "Well these places have always been fucked up like that there isn't anything we can do" attitude.
I still don't quite buy into deterrence theory though...
Raaaah, dammit Peace Walker
[QUOTE=Falchion;35634118]Wow are you dumb. "Helping the poor" isn't exactly whats causing hunger and war in Africa. Places don't just become "unstable" by themselves and the roots of unrest today are usually somewhere in the past. Already forgotten by everyone so they can take a condescending "Well these places have always been fucked up like that there isn't anything we can do" attitude.[/QUOTE]
Well it's corruption that caused issues. Kenya used to be an up and coming country a decade back or so, now it has gone downhill like nobody's business.
im still waiting for someone to post a photoshopped image of a load of people sitting on the rocket as it takes off
but when its north korea everyone freaks out, figures
[QUOTE=Ermac20;35634633]but when its north korea everyone freaks out, figures[/QUOTE]
Is India run by a buttfuck crazy dictator who leads a starved country of brainwashed people?
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;35631476]Pretty sure Pakistan cares. India and Pakistan don't really get along.[/QUOTE]This new missile isn't really an additional threat to Pakistan; they're already in range of India's other missiles.
[QUOTE=Paravin;35634678]Is India run by a buttfuck crazy dictator who leads a starved country of brainwashed people?[/QUOTE]
no i guess not you got me there
guys a friendly nation tested a missile and no one cared but when a rogue state bent on destroying america did it everyone was mad, i don't understand!
[QUOTE=Paravin;35634678]Is India run by a buttfuck crazy dictator who leads a starved country of brainwashed people?[/QUOTE]
Actually, that's not really something NK is unique with. There's plenty of dictators and other strongmen in the Third World and Central Asia who are quite oppressive but maintain reasonably warm relations with the United States (and they don't pursue isolationist measures either, I suppose) that don't get the same kind of scrutiny the NK regime gets.
No, this is really quite an excellent example of how a nation is treated differently depending on how it fits into US (and others') foreign policy. I don't think this is really so much a matter of who is a haven of freedom and prosperity the US makes it out to be so much as it is who is playing ball with the US's regional interests. Even with India's relationship with Iran for oil and other trade deals, the US sees it as a regional partner against the Chinese and others.
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