Swedish Pirate Party takes over Wikileaks servers.
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That is nice of them, I still don't like the Pirate Party on a political standpoint though.
I love WikiLeaks and I love what Assange wants to do; but I don't feel he should be releasing documents about military operations while the war is going on. War crimes are very serious, and deserve to be investigated to the fullest extent- but not right now at this point in time.
I like this, I like the sweedish party.
Government transparency should be promoted to its fullest extent. Nothing should be hidden from the public.
[QUOTE=leadpumper;24142132]I love WikiLeaks and I love what Assange wants to do; but I don't feel he should be releasing documents about military operations while the war is going on. War crimes are very serious, and deserve to be investigated to the fullest extent- but not right now at this point in time.[/QUOTE]
Why would you rather choose persecution over prevention? Some things cannot be undone.
[QUOTE=leadpumper;24142132]I love WikiLeaks and I love what Assange wants to do; but I don't feel he should be releasing documents about military operations while the war is going on. War crimes are very serious, and deserve to be investigated to the fullest extent- but not right now at this point in time.[/QUOTE]
Why not now?
Warcrimes are serious, war is serious. A war based on fighting ghosts, looking for a needle in a haystack, paying for a money pit?
If it's not looked into now.
People will overlook it when it comes the time.
So now, or never. ITs serious, and yes its a national security risk.
But the ones who are willing to forfeit liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty or security.
You guys know there aren't any "plans" in the documents right? It doesn't matter if he leaked it when the war is over, the leaks were records, records from 2004 -2009.
[QUOTE=starpluck;24142606]You guys know there aren't any "plans" in the documents right? It doesn't matter if he leaked it when the war is over, the leaks were records, records from 2004 -2009.[/QUOTE]
Records that could contain information on actions and possible atrocities committed, which potentially change the entire world's opinion on the war.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;24143003]which potentially change the entire world's opinion on the war.[/QUOTE]
Good, that's the point. Especially a war with no end. Does it end when we kill Bin Laden? Probably not since we're basically the only thing keeping the government afloat. Besides he's already jumped ship to Pakistan (or even farther).
I disagree with people saying they shouldn't have been released now. When should wikileaks released them then? That would defeat the purpose. Besides there is no good time to release them, this war turned sour after 2004 and is only getting worse.
[QUOTE=Herr Sven;24139426]I like the Swedish Pirate Party. They have politics that are NOT what we call "Gray Socialist".[/QUOTE]
that's since they don't actually have any politics when it comes to the more boring issues like economy and healthcare
[I]"Because he's the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight."[/I] :sweden:
fuck wikileaks
It's awesome that Brage made this!
I fucking love Sweden now.
:sweden:
Who wants to move to Sweden with me?
I kinda want to move to a country like Sweden or Norway. But learning a new language would be a bitch.
I think I'm part Norwegian or Swedish too, I know for a fact I'm part Scandinavian.
[QUOTE=Zeraxify;24140438]I'm watching that aswell. Basically that's what they want. To be honest the whole foreigners situation has gone too far. But the Swedish democrats are crazy fucks, no one should vote for them even though I agree with them on some points.[/QUOTE]
If people are voting for [B]them[/B], how bad you really think the problem is?
[QUOTE=zombojoe;24153745]Who wants to move to Sweden with me?[/QUOTE]
Sorry friend. With the way the elections are shaping up, NO UNSKILLED IMMIGRANTS. :sweden:
I always like Piratebay and I like this pirate party even more now.
I never got the big deal about the leaks I never learn any information from it I already did not know. But I guess it just made it more in the open thought most people still wont believe or even understand and see the larger picture behind the situation in Afghanistan. Or the short sighted policies that lead to outbreak of Islamic terrorism in the world
The U.S trained and armed Wahhabist Islamic movement in North Africa, Caucasus and the Middle East for proxy wars against the Soviet who supported socialist movements. They started pouring money in Wahhabist groups in Pakistan tribal region who begin forming the Mujideen fighters and attacked the Afghanistan government. The Afghanistan government called for the Soviet Union to come to their defense. Which led to Soviet Union entering the war to prevent a radical Islamic republic on its border. the late 1980s, Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, concerned about the growing strength of the Islamist movement, told President George H. W. Bush, You are creating a Frankenstein.". Basic information like that was in the leaks which already out their. PBS runs a lot of great articles and shows on this.
Go Pirate party!
(I am not defending communism in anyway I dislike it very much but I think its a cherry ice cream compared to Islamic fundamentalist terrorism)
[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html[/url]
[url]http://www.basicsproject.org/islamist_terrorism/ideology/wahhabism.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html[/url]
[url]http://www.newsweek.com/2001/09/30/the-road-to-september-11.html[/url]
[url]http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a86operationcyclone[/url]
[url]http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,498421,00.html[/url]
[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/osamabinladen/[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaiauSI-PLc[/url] ( This terrorist wannabe video cracks me up ,using american song "Stand Up" while saying death to America, Russia, India, england and etc)
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;24155153]Sorry friend. With the way the elections are shaping up, NO UNSKILLED IMMIGRANTS. :sweden:[/QUOTE]
As long as you aren't brown you'll do just fine in northern europe
Dye your hair blond for extra pay
[QUOTE=sonicrjk;24148616]It's awesome that Brage made this![/QUOTE]
Dont make me change my mind :argh:
[QUOTE=Meknes;24155692]
(I am not defending communism in anyway I dislike it very much but I think its a cherry ice cream compared to Islamic fundamentalist terrorism)
[/QUOTE]
Whoa whoa man, communism? Pass that shit you're smoking!
This makes me proud to be swedish.
I don't use wikileaks though since I do not know what to even look for there.
Oh and I really hope that "Svergiedemokraterna" does not get enough votes since they are fucking nazis.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;24158256]This makes me proud to be swedish.
I don't use wikileaks though since I do not know what to even look for there.
Oh and I really hope that "Svergiedemokraterna" does not get enough votes [B]since they are fucking nazis[/B].[/QUOTE]
Typical sign of brainwashing by media.
"We dont think that Sweden can support more immigrants right now"
"FUCKING NAZIS"
I mean sure, sverigedemokraterna have their drawbacks, but to call them nazis just because they realize that the mass-immigration has gone to shit is absurd.
OnTopic: Things like this makes me proud to be Swedish.
Just don't go voting rödgrönt or the lich king will slay you.
I'm voting Moderaterna
Anyway, this will end bad for us Swedes, and immigration has gone waaay over the line here, but I will still not tolerate SD
it feels like the pirate party is the only party in sweden that actually does anything.
all the other parties are like "oh yeah, we'll change this and that" and it will;
a) take a few years
b) never happen
c) happen, but not in the way they explained it would
[QUOTE=Cuel;24158632]
a) take a few years
b) never happen
c) happen, but not in the way they explained it would[/QUOTE]
This pretty much sums up most of politics.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;24158256]Oh and I really hope that "Svergiedemokraterna" does not get enough votes since they are fucking nazis.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, ho ho ho. Wishful thinking you communist tool. I'm gonna enjoy your tears while your multi-cultural paradise gets flushed down the drain.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24156157]As long as you aren't brown you'll do just fine in northern europe
Dye your hair blond for extra pay[/QUOTE]
Feels good homeboy.
:sweden:
:)
[b]American Government:[/b] we gutta bomb sweden nao!!!
I have to say I wasn't expecting one little pirate party to have any influence at all. I thought they were going to fade into obscurity and be perceived as an impotent group of angsty people who like to download games.
But it's like they're the superhero in a mindless action movie and the copyright giants are their nemeses.
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