Neo-Nazi rally in LA met with violent counter-protests
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[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21437954]And Gypsies, and homosexuals, and the disabled, and the intellectuals, and pretty much everyone who isn't an Aryan.[/QUOTE]
You're confusing Nazi's with Neo-Nazi's.
[QUOTE=Stany01;21438131]You're confusing Nazi's with Neo-Nazi's.[/QUOTE]
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Nope not really
[QUOTE=Rubs10;21438006]Ok, I won't exactly get anyting done by debating on the internet. So I figure the smartest thing to do is to just stop.
Who seriously got anywhere in an internet debate?
Hehe.[/QUOTE]
True, logic right here ^
[QUOTE=Detective P;21438194]True, logic right here ^[/QUOTE]
Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21438231]Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.[/QUOTE]
And here I was thinking you were a good poster
[QUOTE=TH89;21438261]And here I was thinking you were a good poster[/QUOTE]
I was kidding, but I think it's a good thing to keep in mind before you make things on the internet into SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS.
[QUOTE=CriticalThought;21418399]I don't agree with Nazis but that guy sounds pretty intense[/QUOTE]
National Socialism would be great if you remove the part about cohesion through racial superiority and Darwinism
[QUOTE=TH89;21438261]And here I was thinking you were a good poster[/QUOTE]
One overused analogy makes him a bad poster?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21438413]One overused analogy makes him a bad poster?[/QUOTE]
Probably not, but either way it's not a good thing to have on your record.
[QUOTE=Idi Amin;21438379]National Socialism would be great if you remove the part about cohesion through racial superiority and Darwinism[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21423135]People like that ruin our country. I'm glad others counter-protested.[/QUOTE]
you live in a fascist country (USA) so I guess you're right?
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21418291][URL]http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-white-supremacist18-2010apr18,0,4043821.story[/URL]
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A rally of about 40 white supremacists Saturday on the lawn of Los Angeles City Hall drew hundreds of counter-protesters, sparked brawls in which two people were severely beaten and ended with crowds of demonstrators hurling rocks and bottles at police and departing supremacists.
The rally, conducted by the National Socialist Movement, prompted the Los Angeles Police Department to go on tactical alert as counter-protesters from throughout the region flooded into downtown L.A. They included a wide assortment of African American, Jewish, Latino, immigrants-rights and anarchist groups.
While some counter-protesters said they had heard about the event through social media such as Twitter and had come to urge peace in the face of the group's hateful message, others had clearly come for a fight. At least five of them were arrested by the end of the demonstration for throwing eggs and rocks.
Before members of the white supremacist group had arrived, a bare-chested middle-aged man with Nazi insignias tattooed on his chest and back walked into a crowd of hundreds of counter-protesters gathered near 1st and Spring streets.
Surrounded, the man mockingly bobbed his head to the rhythm of demonstrators chanting "Nazi scum." About a dozen protesters suddenly began pelting the man with punches and kicks. He fell and was struck on the back with the wooden handle of a protester's sign, which snapped in two. Police eventually reached the man and pulled him from the melee, as blood poured from the back of his neck.
Another man was rushed by a mob on Spring Street. He was punched in the face and kicked for about 20 seconds before police made it to the scene. After that beating was broken up, the man began running south on Spring Street, only to be chased down by a protester and slugged in the face. He collapsed and his face slammed to the curb as protesters began hitting him again.
The bloodied man was then escorted away by police. Both victims were treated and released, police said.
His sign, unclear in its intended meaning, read "Christianity=Paganism=Heathen$" with an arrow pointing at a swastika.
"Gosh, I think he just didn't have a clear message. I don't even think he was a Nazi," said one man, looking at the broken pieces of the sign left behind.
The neo-Nazi group had obtained a permit for its demonstration earlier in the week, and police prepared the rally area by taping off a section of City Hall's shaded south lawn. About 12:30 p.m., members began delivering anti-immigrant tirades and shouts of "Sieg Heil" that echoed down the street.
"We are tired of you clogging up our streets," shouted one white supremacist.
Another group member repeatedly denounced illegal immigrants, saying, "If the city supports illegal aliens and criminals, that is treason."
A counter-protester shouted back with a bullhorn.
"You're being protected by black and Latino cops, you cowards!" she said.
The rally ended around 2:30 p.m. with counter-protesters rushing toward the criminal courts building parking lot where the white supremacists had parked their cars. Dozens of them hurled rocks and glass bottles at the neo-Nazis and their police escorts.
One vehicle failed to start. As a group of white supremacists attempted to jump-start the car, others raised swastika-emblazoned shields over their heads to protect themselves from projectiles. After the white supremacists left, police allowed the crowds to dissipate.
Cmdr. David Doan said the LAPD's goal was to protect free speech and avoid using force. "There was a tremendous amount of restraint shown by our officers," he said. "We allowed both sides to exercise their 1st Amendment rights."
Doan said it was a frustrating situation for LAPD officers. "We took some rocks and bottles when they arrived, and we took some again when the car had some trouble starting."
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Racists in LA instantly make me think of American History X; anyone else?[/QUOTE]
Them crazy racists!
Personally, I believe that the words that killed millions should never be spoke again, even if it is your freedom of speach. In my opinion that is.
[QUOTE=scurr;21452096]Personally, I believe that the words that killed millions should never be spoke again, even if it is your freedom of speach. In my opinion that is.[/QUOTE]
At what point do you ban everything?
ITT: Pepole are calling a person a nazi while defending nazis. :downs:
[QUOTE=dvc;21459078]ITT: Pepole are calling a person a nazi while defending nazis. :downs:[/QUOTE]
No, ITT dvc shows up to the party late and misspells "people".
Nobody is defending nazis. We are defending a group's right to assemble. Take away the right of the neo-nazis to assemble, and soon follows other groups that people may find objectionable. Most people might not mind at first, but then they realize that nobody has any rights anymore.
[QUOTE=DiscoPony;21459318]Nobody is defending nazis[/QUOTE]
I'm defending nazis actually
they are cool
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;21452874]At what point do you ban everything?[/QUOTE]
You didn't realise I said "In my opinion", did you?
It is however a suppressive and illogical opinion.
Also he was simply criticizing your view.
I chuckled looking at them neo-nazis
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AHOHOHO
[QUOTE=scurr;21452096]Personally, I believe that the words that killed millions should never be spoke again, even if it is your freedom of speach. In my opinion that is.[/QUOTE]
For some reason your avatar looks like an SS officer with a gas mask on too me.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;21426247]Because it's their damned right to.
The Neo-Nazi's were having a peaceful rally[/QUOTE]
Had to stop there. this is not a peaceful rally. They are trying to incite hatred of minorities, it is by default, and incredibly negative motive.
If you're promoting equality, you're out there to try and make life better for some minority individuals, if you're at a Nazi rally, you're promoting the outright hatred of everybody but whites.
It is a get together to incite violence, that my friend, is not a peaceful rally.
Why the neo? Whats wrong with just saying Nazi?
Anyway, if people want to protest, that is their right. That should never be taken away.
But as soon as they start physically hurting another living creature, then they should have their asses handed to them.
These idiots scare noone anymore.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;21480944]Why the neo? Whats wrong with just saying Nazi?
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Because the original Nazis were well educated, intelligent, and cultured. I mean even though they were batshit insane, at least they were presentable.
The Nazis today are disgusting inbred hicks who simply grew weary of blind patriotism, so also had to start thinking of [I]themselves[/I] being superior, too.
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[I]Angry Crowd Erupts In Judgement And Physically Attacks Non Nazi Counter Demonstrator / Photo Set 1 of 1[/I]
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About a half an hour before the demonstration for The National Socialist Front or The American Neo Nazi Party began, a murmur went through the left side of the counter protesting crowd. A shouting match had started between two of the counter protesters. A crowd began to gather around the two men. A white haired activist wearing a t-shirt that read "eracism" who was holding an AnsweLA.org sign was arguing with a man who was holding a bullhorn and a sign that read, " Chri$tianity = Pagani$m = Heatheni$m = Naziism ..... Burn In Hell " The sign used a small swastika to finish the ambiguous statement instead of spelling out naziism. The man's sign also had two marriage equality stickers on the back.
The crowd quickly grew more rabid and began to shout down the now perceived "Nazi". He shouted through his bullhorn that he was exercising his right of free speech whereupon the growing crowd shouted back that he had no free speech rights. At this point several of the anti-Nazi counter protesters began to tear the demonstrator's sign from his hands. A few seconds later the man began to receive kicks and blows to the head from the rapidly advancing crowd.
They pushed him to the ground.
His sign was torn to shreds.
The counter-protester that participated in the initial altercation pulled away from the fracas.
At this point the police presence for this certain altercation was completely absent.
The assaulted protester pushed himself up from the ground, now with the help of a few nonviolent people.
The crowd continued to assault him with kicks, punches and perhaps bicycles.
A number of people, perhaps five to ten or so began to defend the assaulted protester. One man in particular probably saved a life by covering the victims head with his torso and hands absorbing the multiple kicks and punches coming from the mob of counter-protesters.
The good Samaritans pulled the fellow up and tried to run him down the street to safety but the assaultive crowd grew and continued the attack. They repeatedly hit him, kicked him. and again knocked him to ground.
There was a line of officers holding back the crowd from L.A. City Halls south lawn about 50 to 80 yards from the beatings.
However, still no police assistance.
Several women tried to assist the victim by walking him away to safety but he was attacked yet again, whereupon he ran and then fell to the ground against the curb.
The crowd descended on him again while his protectors vigorously surrounded him making a human chain of protection around the mistakenly perceived Nazi..
At this point a group of policemen came to the mans aid, pushing away all attackers or protectors and then proceeding to escort the victim to safety. On their return to the south lawn they formed a phalanx as angry anti-nazi protesters taunted them shouting slogans that equivocated the Ku Klux Klan and the L.A.P.D.
The victim seemed to have minor contusions, bruises and some bleeding. He was ambulatory however; walking out with the police escort.
[url]http://la.indymedia.org/news/2010/04/237211.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;21480983]Because the original Nazis were well educated, intelligent, and cultured. I mean even though they were batshit insane, at least they were presentable.
The Nazis today are disgusting inbred hicks who simply grew weary of blind patriotism, so also had to start thinking of [I]themselves[/I] being superior, too.[/QUOTE]I actually met a few neo-nazi's and there not even close to your description.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;21421225]I'm going to round up a group of Neo-Imperial Germans.
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I don't know what our motives will be. We'll just wear pickelhaubes and praise the Kaiser I guess.[/QUOTE]
Obama is the equivalent of Franz Ferdinand these days isn't he? LETS GO KILL OBAMA!
[QUOTE=broo20;21482145]Obama is the equivalent of Franz Ferdinand these days isn't he? LETS GO KILL OBAMA![/QUOTE]
How much do you know of history?
[QUOTE=Fables;21480622]For some reason your avatar looks like an SS officer with a gas mask on too me.[/QUOTE]
Go read Romantically Apocalyptic and stop assuming.
They seem as bad as eachother IMO, kick them all out
Yeah, You heard me
[QUOTE=scurr;21484648]Go read Romantically Apocalyptic and stop assuming.[/QUOTE]
You didn't realise he said "for some reason it looked like", did you?
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